What are your views on cohabitating?

Hmm, parents being gutless for not marrying? Not neccesarily. What matters to us, we KNOW we will do the deed someday. My "husband" wants it done in Hawaii, where he was born. I'd go to one of the islands in the Caribbean but if he wants Hawaii, he'll have that. So as soon as we can all get out there, we will do it. No rush.

Yes, children are God's gifts, blessings, angels, etc. They are the greatest gifts we've ever gotten from Him. Thank you God.

Hmm, the church does not like out of wedlock children? The times I've been in with His Blessings, they both have been welcomed with love and baptized. And guess what? They KNEW we are not legally married. Yet, they treat us as such. The till envelopes used to be Mr. and Mrs. B. and now says Mr B and Ms. G. No big deal in today's society.

I don't go every Sunday anymore, mostly because my kids are very active. No childrens' rooms at this church, like some of the other churches. So I worship Him at home by taking Sundays to reflect on the week, to catch up on things, quiet time or just have a fun Sunday. My "husband" doesn't go either but he has been GREAT when we go. He likes to keep his religion/politics to himself. I do not blame him after all that judging/political arguments out there among many of us. As long as we try to be Good in God's eyes. Just my .02

Thanks for reading.
 
I feel it is a human nature to be hypocritical at times. I'd be lying if I said I have never caught myself being a hypocrite. Political and Religious beliefs/opinions spark the deepest emotions from people and therefore cause the most heated debates. Although cohabitation is not something I would myself do, it isn't my place to ridicule or criticize those who do not oppose it. I believe in happiness though, and if that is way for couple to be truely content and happy, then great. IMO the "voice" telling us what to do or not is there for reason. I feel it is in part our inate ability as humans to tell what is right and what is wrong to us, not what we grew up with or what our parents taught us. That isn't meant to start any other debate that is apart from thread's topic. Thanks
 
hohDougRN said:
I feel it is a human nature to be hypocritical at times. I'd be lying if I said I have never caught myself being a hypocrite. Political and Religious beliefs/opinions spark the deepest emotions from people and therefore cause the most heated debates. Although cohabitation is not something I would myself do, it isn't my place to ridicule or criticize those who do not oppose it. I believe in happiness though, and if that is way for couple to be truely content and happy, then great. IMO the "voice" telling us what to do or not is there for reason. I feel it is in part our inate ability as humans to tell what is right and what is wrong to us, not what we grew up with or what our parents taught us. That isn't meant to start any other debate that is apart from thread's topic. Thanks
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Freaky Cat said:
Yep I am not kidding.. when i read it i was like WHAT?? i couldnt believe it? thats why im beginning to wonder if this is all for real?? but still for those children are innocent and they didnt know??? jeez.

Deuteronomy 23 (New American Standard Bible)

2"No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly of the LORD; none of his descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall enter the assembly of the LORD.



see it is ALL there. plain as truth... so... i was like :roll: at it.


BibleGateway.com - Passage Lookup: Deuteronomy 23 ;
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Wow. It is so scary! I have a problem. I know God has plans for each person in the world. It called human blueprint. the blueprint reveals a person who will get pregnant by accident, has a job, lives in a house with her mother for several years. She will die at age of 80 of cancer, for instance. If it happens, then why God allows it happen to that person which He created? It called a free will which God gives us. That's what I wonder.
 
BradB08 said:
By calling children who are conceived out of wedlock as "bastards", you've clearly shown your ignorance.

Yet more proof that religions are full of hypocrites and people who judge.

Co-habitation is not a big deal in our society. It helps couples to gauge whether or not they are truly interested in staying together. There's less risk in it because you could be dating someone and living separately. If you decide to marry that person, there's more risk that you'll find things that you don't like about them because you've never actually lived with them.
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When you meet a member of the opposite sex that you think would be a good mate, you should be able to know by the end of the second date. Fortunately, the same with resumes that one sends for a job, first impressions do count.

As for "religion," I don't recall saying anything about that. Where'd you get that one, hypocrite?
 
Oceanbreeze said:
When you call a child born out of wedlock a bastard, you are unfairly labelling that child and hurting that child. It's no different than someone labelling a deaf person "deaf and dumb"; regardless of his or her intellience.

It's heartless and cruel.
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Then the parents shouldn't do that to their kids, should they? Lay the blame where it actually belongs to, unfortunately, the kid suffers.
 
Wokamuka said:
When you have a pre-disposition (or bias) against someone because of circumstnace, you discount the other's value as a human being. Why?

Calling another a "bastard" denotes a lower social status that assists one in feeling good about him/herself? Now, really, do you need to go to that level?
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Well, what would you like to call these kids? The lesser term would be "born out of wedlock."
 
Freaky Cat said:
Be careful with what you said. Children are innocent angels and they dont deserve the recognition. Really they are God's blessings. I am one of those bastards you so name calling. Thank you. I now know you are such one of those ignorance people. whatever! :roll:

Did you know that the church wouldnt let out of wedlock children go to church. What happened to beliving in God and want to be saved? Those laws are hogwash. I believe everyone should be EQUAL! they should be able to go to church. *so whatever*

I am sorry but its a fact.
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I don't disagree that children are gifts from God, but I don't agree that the mother, absent is the father, should be able to obtain a full college scholarship because of "a setback."

I have no problem with people going to church, as I encourage it. We all need to know how we stand before God when we don't belong to Him and how to change that. The Children of Israel were and are still called bastards, does this make it any different?
 
hohDougRN said:
I feel it is a human nature to be hypocritical at times. I'd be lying if I said I have never caught myself being a hypocrite. Political and Religious beliefs/opinions spark the deepest emotions from people and therefore cause the most heated debates. Although cohabitation is not something I would myself do, it isn't my place to ridicule or criticize those who do not oppose it. I believe in happiness though, and if that is way for couple to be truely content and happy, then great. IMO the "voice" telling us what to do or not is there for reason. I feel it is in part our inate ability as humans to tell what is right and what is wrong to us, not what we grew up with or what our parents taught us. That isn't meant to start any other debate that is apart from thread's topic. Thanks
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Very well said, hohDougRN. Perhaps I shouldn't have said anything, but I did.

I think we all need to agree to disagree on this and end it.
 
IslandBreeze07 said:
I've observed from experience such people (in the red above) are not necessarily good themselves. The ones who go to church every Sunday, go over porn late at night. Do dishonorable things. The ones I knew who keep saying they are such good people treated people badly. Of course, some people learn and be truly good BUT after a lot of damage has been done so in my eyes, usually are not worth it. Not to mention the ones who get messed up between the fear of God, the teachings of the Church and family beliefs.

That's my .o2 about people who "save themselves" and yadda yadda. Their wrongs are strictly between them and their God. I will worry about my own wrongs. :roll:
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Well said and very insightful!
 
Gemma said:
My man asked me to move in with him as he is moving into a new house. Considering my very strict Jesuit upbringing, I keep hearing the voices " You are a sinner!" in my mind from these wonderful priests and nuns but I realize that I am not going to let anyone dictate how I live in 2008.

I will make the decision on my own - not because of religious or financial aspects but rather that I want to share my life with him or not without having that piece of paper proclaiming us legally married or not............

Tough decision.......so many pros and cons - really damn hard
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A hard decision, yes...but considered carefully, it will end in being the one that is right for you. That is what is important.
 
pek1 said:
Then the parents shouldn't do that to their kids, should they? Lay the blame where it actually belongs to, unfortunately, the kid suffers.
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Then it would appear that the blame needs to fall squarely on the shoulders of the judgemental members of our society.
 
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