what a load of rubbish!!!!

I also wanted to add that although I grew up with hearing for most of my life, what my audi and CI surgeon said about me being able to hear environmental sounds only with my CI had to do with the fact that I was profoundly deaf for 10 years. The longer a person is without hearing, the less of a chance they have to perform well with a CI.
 
She had been HOH/deaf for 15 years, begin to go deaf since age 14. Others also have unrealistic expectations about her CI, they expect her to be able to hear phones(which she still can't) and hear them speaking from across the room. She has to face that person to hear them. Her speech recognition did improve but it's not perfect. She hears high frequencies better but traded away much of her ability to hear the lows in the implanted ear. Her HA in the contralateral ear is picking up the lows and she's going bimodel now. I do wish I had as much residual hearing as she does, her better ear has only 55db HL at 250Hz and about 20db better than my audiogram at all frequencies.

She did say she was happy with her HAs till her audiologists pressured her about CIs till she gave in and decided to get a CI. So I think part of her reason to go ahead was due to meeting expectations of others and others definately do expect her to hear like a hearing person now that she has CI.

To the OP, she should tell that guy to just accept his deafness and that a CI won't give him normal hearing, it didn't give her normal hearing and in fact she now hears worse in the low frequencies as well as losing her ability to hear unaided in the implanted ear.
 
deafdude,

I have to admit that although I researched CIs for a long time prior to receiving them, I was swayed a little by personal stories of people being able to hear birds, crickets, the rain, etc. When I couldn't hear many of these sounds as well as I would have liked, I was disappointed. It wasn't until 6 high frequency electrodes were turned off on each CI that I really began to notice a remarkable difference in my hearing. Now I feel like I'm hearing better than I ever have before -- perhaps even better than I did prior to wearing HAs.
 
Didn't you already know that those of us with CIs do not accept our deafness and only receive them so we can "fix" ourselves and become hearing people?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....Well you know, I think b/c it's the "latest" technology there are a lot of unhappy disaffected people out there who gravitate to it b/c it seems like the latest thing.
Many people with it DO accept being deaf, and just go for it after maxing out HA....Nothing wrong with that....But I honestly honestly think that there needs to be some sort of pyschological screening done in cases where the canidate is an ambigious canidate.
 
I don't think anybody with 60db hearing loss should be eligable for CI's anyway. If hearing aids don't help at that sort of loss it kind of implies some sort of processing disorder. I was like that. I used to struggle at 40 db loss. However I know a deafblind guy with 80 db loss who can hear the speech on his computer.

As for the CI which is all in the ear, I think it's a very bad idea. Remember with the CI that had a possitioner in a differant place. It produced higher rates of melingitus so that model was scrapped. Who's to know what nasty little surprises we will find with this all in the ear model?
 
People with AN (auditory neuropathy) have been proven to benefit from CIs (although the majority do well with HAs) so this proves the fact that even if a person has a 60 dB loss, they can still hear much better with an implant.

As for whether or not someone with a 60 dB loss should have a CI, I think it's up to each person since no two people with identical hearing loss or audiograms hear the same way.

When I had an 80 dB loss, I could not hear well enough to use speech output on my computer or benefit from using a Comtek FM system.

However, when my loss was 60 dB, I had no problem understanding speech in a quiet environment.
 
Since CIs are placed in the skull whether they use external components or not, I would think the chances of developing meningitis would be minimal especially since meningitis vaccines are required prior to surgery.
 
deafdyke said:
But I honestly honestly think that there needs to be some sort of pyschological screening done in cases where the canidate is an ambigious canidate.
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I was evaluated psychologically in terms of my acceptance to being deaf.

I was also asked how I was coping on a daily basis (i.e. communication methods used) as well as my expectations for CI.

Before I was accepted to be evaluated for a CI, I had to complete a 6 page questionaire which asked all kinds of questions about my deafness.

I also needed my HA audi to sign the questionaire indicating that my hearing loss was severe enough to benefit from a CI.

All CI centers have some kind of psychological evaluation. If this isn't done by a certified psychologist, it is done by the entire CI team.

In my case, psychological testing was conducted by my CI surgeon, former CI audi and the audi who is the senior audi in my CI center's program.
 
People with AN (auditory neuropathy) have been proven to benefit from CIs (although the majority do well with HAs)
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I thought that it was the opposite, that most AN folks benfited from CI, but not so much from HA.I remember there was a lot of excitment that AN could be helped with CIs.
Maybe if someone's an ambigious canidate for CI, it should be required they get an independent psychological evaluation.
Yes, most canidates for CI are legit.....but that doesn't change the fact that it does seem like there's a significent minority that thinks CI will overcome all the disadvantages of being hoh. You have to admit that it does seem like the CI has been really extremely promoted. I mean I can't remember ever being IMd and told I should get a new type of hearing aid. Also when's the last time you saw an article about a new type of HA in the mainstream media? Yet CI is ALL over the mainstream media.
 
Deafdyke, Pardon me for saying this please leave names in the quotes so i can read who said without scrolling back, I have very short memory....
 
It doesn't make sense for people with processing disorders to benifit from either hearing aids or cochlear implants since it's the brain that sorts messages out. And if the brain is already getting messages and has problems dealing with them I really can't see how any hearing devices would work at all. Although I suppose it would depend on the severity of the auditory processing problems.

It is also a fact that some don't gain any use at all out of any hearing devices.
 
Hear again: Could you provide me with a link please. I've just tried to google it and I couldn't find any referances to APD and CI's.
 
dreama,

I know this to be true based on the numerous medical articles I've read regarding AN and CIs. You can find them by doing a Google search for "auditory neuropathy + cochlear implants."
 
deafdyke said:
I thought that it was the opposite, that most AN folks benfited from CI, but not so much from HA.I remember there was a lot of excitment that AN could be helped with CIs.
Maybe if someone's an ambigious canidate for CI, it should be required they get an independent psychological evaluation.
Yes, most canidates for CI are legit.....but that doesn't change the fact that it does seem like there's a significent minority that thinks CI will overcome all the disadvantages of being hoh. You have to admit that it does seem like the CI has been really extremely promoted. I mean I can't remember ever being IMd and told I should get a new type of hearing aid. Also when's the last time you saw an article about a new type of HA in the mainstream media? Yet CI is ALL over the mainstream media.
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I really don't see the same thing you do DD. I've had severe-profound hearing loss since 1995 and didn't find out about CIs until 2001.

I also do not know where you are getting the idea that audiis are pushing CIs or people are getting them because they are the "latest and greatest" technology. If a person has unreasonable expectations for CI or only wants to be implanted because they think it will cure their deafness, a CI team will not implant them.
 
Hear again. I'm not talking about Auditory Neuropathy. I'm talking about Auditory processing disorder. It's two differant conditions.

Auditory Neuropathy: involves the nerve that sends messages from the ear to the brain. I'm told I have problem with this problem although I might have developed other problems too since I also suffered recruitment in later years.

Auditory Processing Disorder is when the part of the brain that deals with auditory systems itself doesn't work. Although it seems only to talk about people with normal hearing who fuction as deaf. I can't help but wonder what would happen if someone had APD AND some other minor hearing problem. So they would function worse then what they should do with their degree of hearing loss.

Would AN by itself explain why someone with only a minor hearing loss has problems understanding things verbally?
 
Well I did another google search on AN and CI.

It says some children benifits more from cochlear implants then they do from hearing aids. But since some children gain NO benifits from hearing aids whatsoever that isn't necessarily a garantee that the CI will actually work either. I find them very careful in their wording. Why put a child through something like a CI if there is no guarantees that it will work?
 
dreama,

Whether or not a child can benefit from a CI should be left up to the parents and CI team. None of us can or should make that determination.
 
dreama,

I don't know why you are mentioning auditory processing disorder when that isn't what I was talking about.
 
No, it was what I was talking about. Only all the information I can find on it is about hearing people who have this disorder and fuction as deaf.
When I was interested in how it would affect someone who was HOH.
 
dreama,

You are I were obviously talking about two difference things.

Hence, the miscommunication.
 
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