US Military Must Accept Illegal Aliens!

VacationGuy234 said:
Not handle difficult people? Really? Who exactly do they leave that up to?
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First of all, I'm not really sure what you mean by "difficult" people. An illegal alien is a law breaker with a murky background. Is that what you mean by "difficult"?

The difference between some kid who has a work visa from India and a kid from Honduras is paperwork. There are plenty non-Americans here working for the military.
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You still don't get it.

It's not just "paperwork." It's breaking the nation's laws. If they can't be trusted to enter the county legally, how can they trusted to serve in the military?

Yes, there are non-Americans working for and serving in the military. LEGAL non-Americans. This topic is about ILLEGAL non-Americans.

But, I have not failed to notice, you have not answered my question. What do you want to do with these children?
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My thread is not about children. It's about illegal alien adults joining our military.

"These children" will either have to go back to their native countries or go thru legal processes to stay in this country. They don't need to join the military.
 
VacationGuy234 said:
Not handle difficult people? Really? Who exactly do they leave that up to?
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what makes you think military is a place for them? do you think our boot camps are like Gunnery Sergeant Hartman?

VacationGuy234 said:
The difference between some kid who has a work visa from India and a kid from Honduras is paperwork.
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nope. the difference is that a kid from Honduras is a criminal. remember 9/11?

VacationGuy234 said:
There are plenty non-Americans here working for the military.
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right... they're here legally and they have background checks.

VacationGuy234 said:
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjobs/a/noncitizen.-uMT.htm

But, I have not failed to notice, you have not answered my question. What do you want to do with these children?
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certainly not in military or law enforcement agencies or anywhere else except their own country.
 
Reba said:
First of all, I'm not really sure what you mean by "difficult" people. An illegal alien is a law breaker with a murky background. Is that what you mean by "difficult"?


You still don't get it.

It's not just "paperwork." It's breaking the nation's laws. If they can't be trusted to enter the county legally, how can they trusted to serve in the military?

Yes, there are non-Americans working for and serving in the military. LEGAL non-Americans. This topic is about ILLEGAL non-Americans.


My thread is not about children. It's about illegal alien adults joining our military.

"These children" will either have to go back to their native countries or go thru legal processes to stay in this country. They don't need to join the military.
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The reason why children need to stay in USA for asylum is because they are not safe in Mexico, Central America and South America. There are a lot of bad things happening to people who are families who are in fear of their lives. They just can not stand to be in the violence country. Those countries need to stop this abuse and corruptions that are threatening to the people like the children. That is why parents are trying to send them to USA to be safe and better life like schools, food and health including a place to live free from fear. It is not fair to put down children like that. Give them a break. :(
 
Bebonang said:
The reason why children need to stay in USA for asylum is because they are not safe in Mexico, Central America and South America. There are a lot of bad things happening to people who are families who are in fear of their lives. They just can not stand to be in the violence country. Those countries need to stop this abuse and corruptions that are threatening to the people like the children. That is why parents are trying to send them to USA to be safe and better life like schools, food and health including a place to live free from fear. It is not fair to put down children like that. Give them a break. :(
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sending children illegally and secretly to a foreign country is reckless and dangerous. it leads to their death, child sex ring, and abuse.

and beside... entire Mexico is not dangerous. only major city and some towns are dangerous for people... they can simply move to somewhere safer. and this country is not an orphan house. continuing to let illegals stay here leads to many many many problems for us - epidemic, financial drain, decreased quality of services, high crime rates - just to name few.
 
Why not? We could use them for infantry patrols after our front line mechanized and armored unit spear head.
 
femme Fatale said:
Why not? We could use them for infantry patrols after our front line mechanized and armored unit spear head.
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we could.... but that's such a waste of our tax money spent on training and equipping them....
 
I'm not putting down any children. Adults who join the military need to have clean and verifiable backgrounds. Each shipmate or comrade needs to be able to trust his or her life to the other.
 
Wouldn't using them deliberately for cannon fodder be reprehensible to Americans?

Bad idea.
 
Bebonang said:
The reason why children need to stay in USA for asylum is because they are not safe in Mexico, Central America and South America. There are a lot of bad things happening to people who are families who are in fear of their lives. They just can not stand to be in the violence country. Those countries need to stop this abuse and corruptions that are threatening to the people like the children. That is why parents are trying to send them to USA to be safe and better life like schools, food and health including a place to live free from fear. It is not fair to put down children like that. Give them a break. :(
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Then the parents needs to send their kids here legally so they can get medical attention before going out into public and putting our kids health at risk . My dad family came from Russia legally and one of his brother had an eye infection and the family had to wait for that to clear up before they could enter the city . The kids are sneaking in illegally and who know what kind of disease they have. We can't just allow parents to send their kids here illegally , they have to do it legally ,this safer for the kids .
 
just seen film about Japanese men in American army during ww2 and many gave lives in Europe knowing most of their families in prison in states just for being Japanese but American citerzens and many hundreds of them died
 
Jiro said:
we could.... but that's such a waste of our tax money spent on training and equipping them....
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You've gotta be kidding me! LOL Of course they would need training and equipment to perform operations under our flag, we don't deploy sittin' ducks silly.
 
Reba said:
Wouldn't using them deliberately for cannon fodder be reprehensible to Americans?

Bad idea.
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No different from using our own children for cannon fodder, right?

And as far as breaking laws, you can break laws here in the U.S. and still serve in the military.

"The Marine Corps Recruiting Regulation, MCO P1100.72B, Chapter 3, Section 2, Part H, Paragraph 12 states: "Applicants may not enlist as an alternative to criminal prosecution, indictment, incarceration, parole, probation, or other punitive sentence. They are ineligible for enlistment until the original assigned sentence would have been completed."
 
VacationGuy234 said:
No different from using our own children for cannon fodder, right?
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Cannon fodder is when troops are intentionally sent to the front lines with no intention of them being victorious but being sacrificed for the forces behind. That is essentially what some people are suggesting (I assume facetiously).

And as far as breaking laws, you can break laws here in the U.S. and still serve in the military.

"The Marine Corps Recruiting Regulation, MCO P1100.72B, Chapter 3, Section 2, Part H, Paragraph 12 states: "Applicants may not enlist as an alternative to criminal prosecution, indictment, incarceration, parole, probation, or other punitive sentence. They are ineligible for enlistment until the original assigned sentence would have been completed."
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Notice, they are only eligible after their case has been completely processed and sentence completed. Illegal aliens haven't fulfilled those requirements. In fact, since their backgrounds can't be checked who knows what their criminal status is?

Eligible doesn't mean they will automatically be accepted.
 
femme Fatale said:
You've gotta be kidding me! LOL Of course they would need training and equipment to perform operations under our flag, we don't deploy sittin' ducks silly.
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Bebonang said:
The reason why children need to stay in USA for asylum is because they are not safe in Mexico, Central America and South America. There are a lot of bad things happening to people who are families who are in fear of their lives. They just can not stand to be in the violence country. Those countries need to stop this abuse and corruptions that are threatening to the people like the children. That is why parents are trying to send them to USA to be safe and better life like schools, food and health including a place to live free from fear. It is not fair to put down children like that. Give them a break. :(
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No thanks...
 
Reba said:
In fact, since their backgrounds can't be checked who knows what their criminal status is?
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Then we can't use the argument that they had a criminal past before they entered the U.S. can we? And, absent that, we can't use it as a valid reason not to use them as a resource.

I understand the fear that people have about it. I just think military can handle it.
 
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