Trilingualism

rockdrummer said:
He never said English so maybe he is monolingual with just ASL. PSE and SEE? :confused: Those are not languages. (I know you are aware of that and I am just saying for the sake of the OP)
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:lol:

If she's monolingual, her posts wouldn't be readable.
 
You know - maybe for this time - we should just have fun.

while PSE and SEE are technically not a complete language... it's still "language" per se. It doesn't have to complete nor officially recognized. It's still a communicable language.... including *cough* cued speech.

There are dozens of other spoken languages around the world that is not as extensive as English/ASL and most of those languages are known to a few thousands people.

Douglas can do SEE, PSE, and ASL. All those 3 are communicable to other people. and I can hold a conversation in English and PSE. I'm still learning ASL syntax.

in what language (informal/formal) can you hold a conversation with?
 
Jiro said:
You know - maybe for this time - we should just have fun.

while PSE and SEE are technically not a complete language... it's still "language" per se. It doesn't have to complete nor officially recognized. It's still a communicable language.... including *cough* cued speech.

There are dozens of other spoken languages around the world that is not as extensive as English/ASL and most of those languages are known to a few thousands people.

Douglas can do SEE, PSE, and ASL. All those 3 are communicable to other people. and I can hold a conversation in English and PSE. I'm still learning ASL syntax.

in what language (informal/formal) can you hold a conversation with?
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English and PSE.
 
Jiro said:
You know - maybe for this time - we should just have fun.

while PSE and SEE are technically not a complete language... it's still "language" per se. It doesn't have to complete nor officially recognized. It's still a communicable language.... including *cough* cued speech.

There are dozens of other spoken languages around the world that is not as extensive as English/ASL and most of those languages are known to a few thousands people.

Douglas can do SEE, PSE, and ASL. All those 3 are communicable to other people. and I can hold a conversation in English and PSE. I'm still learning ASL syntax.

in what language (informal/formal) can you hold a conversation with?
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I with Botti, English & PSE
 
I can communicate with other people with:
A lighbulb, by flashing morse code in any spoken language I know of.
Pantomime.
International sign language(other signers only).
A sign language interpreter.
 
Jiro said:
You know - maybe for this time - we should just have fun.

while PSE and SEE are technically not a complete language... it's still "language" per se. It doesn't have to complete nor officially recognized. It's still a communicable language.... including *cough* cued speech.

There are dozens of other spoken languages around the world that is not as extensive as English/ASL and most of those languages are known to a few thousands people.

Douglas can do SEE, PSE, and ASL. All those 3 are communicable to other people. and I can hold a conversation in English and PSE. I'm still learning ASL syntax.

in what language (informal/formal) can you hold a conversation with?
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PSE and SEE are not language. ASL and English are languages. MCE's or hybrids are not.
 
souggy said:
none of the methods flip posted are languages. :d
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(no it's not braille dots)
 
jiro said:
... - .. .-.. .-.. / -.-. --- -- -- ..- -. .. -.-. .- -... .-.. .

(no it's not braille dots)
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.-. . -- .. -. -.. / -- . / --- ..-. / .-- .... . -. / .. / .-- .- ... / .-.. .. - - .-.. . / .-- .. - .... / -- -.-- / .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- --- .--. . .-. .- - .. -. --. / --. .-. .- -. -.. .--. .- .--. .--. -.-- .-.-.-
 
Jiro said:
well - PSE and SEE are still a communicable language.
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Technically they are not language. Yes you can communicate using these methods but the ability to communicate does not constitute language as far as I know. In order to be a language it must meet linguistic criteria. MCE's and hybrids do not meet linguistic criteria and therefore are not techincally languages in and of themselves.
 
rockdrummer said:
Technically they are not language. Yes you can communicate using these methods but the ability to communicate does not constitute language as far as I know. In order to be a language it must meet linguistic criteria. MCE's and hybrids do not meet linguistic criteria and therefore are not techincally languages in and of themselves.
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hence "communicable language". technically - language means a system of communication by any means such as symbols, signs, sound, codes, etc. What you're talking about is called linguistic.

PSE, SEE, Morse Code, MCE, Hybrids, whistling, warning signs, gesturing, etc. meet the specification to be categorized as "language" but they do not meet the linguistic standard. ASL does.

so like I said in my previous post - let's play for fun. loosen up that sphincter! :lol:
 
Jiro said:
hence "communicable language". technically - language means a system of communication by any means such as symbols, signs, sound, codes, etc. What you're talking about is called linguistic.

PSE, SEE, Morse Code, MCE, Hybrids, whistling, warning signs, gesturing, etc. meet the specification to be categorized as "language" but they do not meet the linguistic standard. ASL does.

so like I said in my previous post - let's play for fun. loosen up that sphincter! :lol:
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No sphincter loosing required. What you are calling language is not language. Sorry.
 
rockdrummer said:
No sphincter loosing required. What you are calling language is not language. Sorry.
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sorry but it meets the definition of language. By your logic - pretty much dozens of sign languages around the world except ASL are not language.
 
Jiro said:
sorry but it meets the definition of language. By your logic - pretty much dozens of sign languages around the world except ASL are not language.
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What logic are you talking about? I have been saying all along that SEE and PSE are not languages in and of themselves or "per se". They are manual modes of English and hybrids of English and ASL. And if they are not languages then you really can't call them sign languages.
 
rockdrummer said:
What logic are you talking about?
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since you said "in order to be a language it must meet linguistic criteria."... dozens of sign languages around the world such as Adamorobe Sign Language in Ghana are not language because it does not meet linguistic criteria. It is incomplete.

rockdrummer said:
I have been saying all along that SEE and PSE are not languages in and of themselves or "per se". They are manual modes of English and hybrids of English and ASL. And if they are not languages then you really can't call them sign languages.
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visual language. sign language. tactile language. audible language. written language. spoken language.

PSE is.... which one?
SEE is... which one?
 
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