Trayvon Case Investigation

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Bull crap.

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Report: Zimmerman's family wrote letter saying he criticized Sanford police over homeless man's beating - Orlando Sentinel
George Zimmerman's family has written a letter saying he questioned the Sanford Police Department's handling of the beating of a black homeless man by the son of a police officer, wftv.com reports.

The letter said Zimmerman is not a racist and, in fact, tried to organize the black community against "this horrible miscarriage of justice," according to the website.

» Trayvon Martin Case: Original State Attorney Wolfinger Has Troubled History InsightOut News
An Attorney’s Troubled Record

Wolfinger’s track record as a Florida State Attorney reveals a pattern of behavior that shows signs of despotism. Early on in his position as State Attorney Wolfinger refused to heed demands from Mothers Against Drunk Driving which demanded that he fire an Assistant State Attorney, Clarence Counts, who pleaded guilty to drunk driving in 1986.

In the same year, Wolfinger claimed no crime was committed when a man blinded a youth by shooting him in the eye after mistaking him for a burglar. The teenager was at the home meeting a girl for a date.

Later in 1988, Wolfinger declined to investigate the case of three local candidates accused of breaking state election laws by contributing to each other’s political campaigns. In 1990, Wolfinger declined to file charges against a record store which had sold obscene, sexually explicit albums to an undercover investigator.

More bothersome was Wolfinger’s refusal in 1991 to charge a City Commissioner, Lon Howell, with a felony for buying $20 worth of crack cocaine, allegedly because there was “no criminal intent” behind the crack purchase.

Complaints of brutality by drug agents in Seminole County in the early 1990s led Wolfinger to head a state investigation. Two county sheriff’s sergeants complained to the Florida Governor in 1992 that Wolfinger had an “indifferent and lackadaisical attitude” toward the investigation, which ultimately ended in no prosecutions.

In 2010, Wolfinger failed to file criminal charges against a local deputy chief for fixing traffic tickets saying, “there was no evidence that Deputy Chief Small received any financial benefit for his actions in having several tickets voided”.

“Inaction” Toward Non-White Victims

In a case strikingly similar to the murder of Trayvon Martin, Wolfinger was accused by the Black community of inaction in the killing of a 16-year old Black boy in 2005.

The Orlando Sentinel reports that the victim was a teenaged black male named Travares McGill, who was shot and killed while driving away from a Sanford apartment complex. The officers who shot McGill said they believed that the victim was about to run them over.

Seminole County’s NAACP chapter held a town-hall meeting where they accused “Sanford’s police chief and State Attorney Norm Wolfinger of inaction after the fatal shooting of a 16-year old boy.”

A revealing Orlando Sentinel report hints that Wolfinger’s prosecution of murders in his district may be based strongly on the race of the victim. In the article, “Prosecutor Tougher If Victim’s White”, Sentinel journalists write:

“Norm Wolfinger, state attorney for Seminole and Brevard counties, is hard on killers, especially those who kill whites. He has sought the death penalty about three times more often for killing whites than for killing blacks, Hispanics and members of other minority groups, the Orlando Sentinel found in a survey of murder cases since 1986.”

The 1992 Sentinel article continues, “His office seeks and wins more capital cases than any other prosecutor’s office in Central Florida. And although state attorneys in Orange, Osceola, Volusia and Lake counties also sought death more often for killers of whites, Wolfinger was about 50 percent more likely to do so. Some leaders in the minority community say the research confirms what they have asserted for a long time”.

According to the official website of Wolfinger’s office, his mission as a state attorney is “pursuing truth and justice, treating victims compassionately, and protecting the public”. The Trayvon Martin case may just be the icing on a very thick cake of corruption stemming from a state attorney’s office that has historically shown a lack of compassion for victims and consideration for the protection of the Florida public.

Sanford cops wanted to charge Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin case - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com
Asked to confirm that the police recommended a manslaughter charge, special prosecutor Angela Corey said: “I don’t know about that, but as far as the process I can tell you that the police went to the state attorney with a capias request, meaning: ‘We’re through with our investigation and here it is for you.’ The state attorney impaneled a grand jury, but before anything else could be done, the governor stepped in and asked us to pick it up in mid-stream.”

A capias is a request for charges to be filed.

The Seminole County State Attorney’s Office declined to comment on whether its prosecutors ever recommended against filing charges.

“If you go with what was reported in the press the first night, there would have been an arrest right away, but obviously something gave investigators pause,” said a source in the Seminole State Attorney’s office who did not want to speak publicly, because the case is now assigned to a different prosecutor. “We get capias warrants all the time. That doesn’t mean we file charges right away. We investigate to see if it’s appropriate. That’s the responsible thing to do.’’

The Seminole County State Attorney’s Office was consulted the night of Trayvon’s killing, but no prosecutor ever visited the scene. As the controversy intensified, Gov. Rick Scott replaced Seminole State Attorney Norm Wolfinger with Corey, the state attorney for Duval, Nassau and Clay counties, based in Jacksonville.

“The case now has a new state attorney, and they didn’t file charges the first day they got it, either,” the Seminole prosecutor who asked to remain anonymous said.

The development is in stark contrast to the statements repeatedly made by Bill Lee, the Sanford police chief who has since stepped aside and was lambasted for his handling of the case. Lee publicly insisted that there was no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman, leading many critics to say he came across more like a defense attorney for the security buff.

“Zimmerman provided a statement claiming he acted in self defense which at the time was supported by physical evidence and testimony,” Lee wrote in a memo posted on the city’s website. “By Florida Statute, law enforcement was PROHIBITED from making an arrest based of the facts and circumstances they had at the time.”

He cited the statute number for Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law, which provides immunity to people who kill someone in self defense.

Lee’s was criticized for his explanations, because many people thought he was bending over backward to protect the shooter based on the results of a shoddy investigation.

and that's bull crap?
 
He has confessed to being guilty of shooting and killing the kid. All we need to know now is if his self defense story will hold up based on the evidence. The cops didn't buy it the night of the shooting, and the special prosecutor, after reviewing the evidence, didn't buy it. We'll have to wait and see if self defense holds up or not in court. But as far as him being guilty of shooting and killing an unarmed teen ager...well, Zimmerman himself has confessed to being guilty of that.

Which means nothing in reference to guilt at this point jillio! Oops did I say that?!
 
The cops didn't arrest in the first place because they believed there wasn't enough evidence!

Might want to check back on that. The cops wanted to arrest. The Seminole County prosecutor refused to issue a warrant. That is what started all of this rolling and why a special prosecutor was called in.
 
I would ask at your introduction thread but that seems to have disappeared. If you start a new intro thread, I'll ask there.

Along with "PJ'sMom"....since her profile said she was "no stranger to the Deaf Culture...and had a Deaf Child".....:hmm:...so..since she's not a "stranger"...she sure is pretty "tight-lipped" and only can give out "Likes" to WB's comments.....What's the matter???....Cat got her tongue?

P.S. .....*running off to ask Aaron*...
 
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Which means nothing in reference to guilt at this point jillio! Oops did I say that?!

It means he is guilty of taking a life of a kid that was doing nothing but walking home.

I thought this was an adult forum. :confused: There seems to be a lot of little kids around here that never learned to play well with others.
 
Why let the matter rest. Does it bother you that new evidence is coming out and the matter is being talked about. It needs to be talked about. It is the only way that injsutice like this will ever be addressed in this country.

How do you know it is an injustice???? Maybe he's innocent!!!!???
 
You bet Ms Angela Corey knows what she's doing!...And Ms Corey and I, living in the same City....she knows "what's best" for this case.....that's the only reason she arrested Zimmerman.....and "what's best"...was to quill the Black "unrest" and arrest Zimmerman...or our city, among many others, would suffer from property damages due to riots from the Blacks....maybe even more killings......A lot of Blacks don't wait for "Justice"...they take it in their own hands...and our jails right now are so full that some inmates are having to sleep on the floor......and furthermore.....Blacks outnumber the Whites 3 to 1....in our jails!

I don't believe Zimmerman will be fully acquitted...he will plead down to a lesser charge....and Ms Corey will give him the opportunity to do just that...."TO PACIFY THE BLACK RACE".... ........ So...in other words...the White People are already "kissing some Black azzes" in order to protect the Public and their property!....

Most overcrowded prison ever in the US? Alabama.

The prison in Alabama is at 190% capacity, higher than California.

Of course - no beds at all and please don't break any laws.
 
Why let the matter rest. Does it bother you that new evidence is coming out and the matter is being talked about. It needs to be talked about. It is the only way that injsutice like this will ever be addressed in this country.

You mean all the new "evidence" from MM, right?
Well, everyone knows MM = B.S.
 
How do you know it is an injustice???? Maybe he's innocent!!!!???

Cops and special prosecutor don't seem to think so. And going on Seminole County prosecutor's history, probabilities point to injustice.

Are you saying that injustice does not occur in unequal application of the law in this country on a daily basis?
 
The author of Stand Your Ground:

It is the fact that Zimmerman ignored the 911 operator's advice not to follow Martin that former Sen. Peaden says disqualifies him from claiming self-defense under the law.


"The guy lost his defense right then," Peaden told the Miami Herald. "When he said 'I'm following him,' he lost his defense."


Rep. Dennis Baxley, Peaden's co-sponsor in the Florida House, agrees with his former colleague, telling the newspaper that the law does not license neighborhood watch or others who feel "like they have the authority to pursue and confront people. That is aggravating an incident right there."

Author of "stand your ground" law: George Zimmerman should probably be arrested for killing Trayvon Martin - Crimesider - CBS News

I'll say it one more time. GZ did not have to obey or follow directions from a 911 dispatcher who has no legal powers or authority at all.
 
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easy answer

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I'll say it one more time. GZ did not have to obey or follow directions from a 911 dispatcher who has no legal powers or authority at all.

Nope. He didn't have to. And now he is payiing the consequences for making the decision not to. Even the guy that wrote SYG has stated that when he decided not to obey the statement not to follow Trayvon, he forfeited his right to defense under SYG.
 
That is a false statement and statistics do not show that at all. Just more of your confusion.

If you want the culture of violence to stop being glorified, stop jumping to the defense of a man that shot an unarmed teen for walking home and doing nothing wrong. That is about as violent as it gets. You are the one glorifying the violence.

Boy/girl,

I don't know whee you are getting your facts or figures but this has been proven time and time again. Nobody here is glorifying any violence!
 
Boy/girl,

I don't know whee you are getting your facts or figures but this has been proven time and time again. Nobody here is glorifying any violence!

Boy/girl,

It has not been proven time and again that minorities commit more crimes. You are as confused as Mr. Steinhauer.
 
And another example. :ty:

And you wonder why social problems continue on and on and on. Because of the inability to honestly discuss them, like you have just demonstrated.

How is it that you have been allowed back on here under another name? I thought that you were banned???!!! It is very clear who you are! You don't hide very well!
 
How is it that you have been allowed back on here under another name? I thought that you were banned???!!! It is very clear who you are! You don't hide very well!

What does that have to do with the Trayvon investigation?
 
It means he is guilty of taking a life of a kid that was doing nothing but walking home.

I thought this was an adult forum. :confused: There seems to be a lot of little kids around here that never learned to play well with others.

What's a matter pot said the kettle?!
 
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