Trayvon Case Investigation

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And Trayvon had no weapons , only a bag of candy and a can of soda,. And when is a crime to wear a hoodie!

If you just base what you know from the internet, newspaper, or TV, it's not enough to know everything. There is a lot more legal cirucumstances the police and others involved that could not have been fully revealed to the public when court is in session.

How would you feel if you were a judge who indicted an innocent person because you based their conviction from how it was said in the news?
(Not talking about Travyon case)

There are a lot of details that remain unseen to make a fully informed opinion.


Remember the O.J. Simpson case? It has more to do with justice owed than justice done.
OJ's case was more about a lack of established chain-of-command with investigative protocol in the past. This has changed greatly in the many years since then.
 
Bill Cosby on Trayvon Martin case: Neighborhood watchmen shouldn
Bill Cosby believes guns are no laughing matter, and are the real reason Tayvon Martin was killed.

The famed comedian said in an interview with the Washington Times posted online Saturday that volunteer neighborhood watchmen like shooter George Zimmerman should be forbidden from carrying guns.

"We've got to get the gun out of the hands of people who are supposed to be on neighborhood watch," Cosby said in his first public remarks about the case.

"Without a gun, I don't see Mr. Zimmerman approaching Trayvon by himself," he added. "The power-of-the-gun mentality had him unafraid to confront someone. Even police call for backup in similar situations."

"When you carry a gun, you mean to harm somebody, kill somebody," Cosby said.
 
I am so happy you will not be used as a juror! What evidences? I heard most of it been destroyed! It is a known fact that the cops told Zimmerman to NOT follow Trayvon! And it was Trayvon that was crying for help up till he was shot and killed! And Trayvon had no weapons , only a bag of candy and a can of soda,. And when is a crime to wear a hoodie!

First you need to read more carefully. I didn't say how I would vote as a juror. Second, you need to reread your "facts" You have obviously misunderstood a few things. Some say it was not Trayvon crying for help....including some of Trayvon's relatives for instance.
 
Federal can involve whatever they are necessary and if state court fails so federal will have to take care of it.

It is just like happened to police officers were on federal charge over beating of Rodney King after county/state failed, just right after LA riot.

It has NOTHING with race, I believe that Zimmerman is guilty for second degree murder.

Do you even know the definition of second degree murder?
 
Holy smokes - people are jumping to conclusions so fast it could be a new cardio exercise routine.


Seems he has already been convicted in the minds of many of the legal "experts" here.

Come on, everyone knows he was charged under duress. There were riots, threats of riots, if he wasn't charged.
 
Holy smokes - people are jumping to conclusions so fast it could be a new cardio exercise routine.


Seems he has already been convicted in the minds of many of the legal "experts" here.

Come on, everyone knows he was charged under duress. There were riots, threats of riots, if he wasn't charged.

oh my.... jumping to conclusion yourself that he was charged under duress :lol:
 
Holy smokes - people are jumping to conclusions so fast it could be a new cardio exercise routine.


Seems he has already been convicted in the minds of many of the legal "experts" here.

Come on, everyone knows he was charged under duress. There were riots, threats of riots, if he wasn't charged.

It's just crazy....all these people with the lynch mob mentality.
 
It's just crazy....all these people with the lynch mob mentality.

really? is that what you called those people who are clamoring for Zimmerman to be tried at court?
 
CNN’s Toobin On Zimmerman Murder Charge: ‘She Threw The Book At Him’
Following special prosecutor Angela Corey‘s announcement that George Zimmerman would be charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, CNN senior legal expert Jeffrey Toobin weighed in on the new developments and what they meant going forward. “She threw the book at him,” Toobin observed.

John King was curious of Toobin’s reaction that Corey decided to go with a charge of second-degree murder which could carry life in prison instead of a lessor charge of manslaughter.

“This is a very, very major charge,” Toobin explained. “It carries the potential of life in prison. The jury instruction that the jury will receive is, he can only be convicted if he showed a depraved attitude towards Trayvon Martin’s life. That’s a tough burden for a prosecutor to meet but she has access to facts that we don’t. The missing couple of minutes where in-between the 911 call that Zimmerman made and the shots being heard on the other 911 call, we don’t know what happened there but there may be other evidence, there may be witnesses that the public doesn’t know about and apparently, it was enough to let the prosecutor bring these charges.”

“Just one larger point i would like to make,” Toobin added. “Florida has what’s known as the Sunshine Law. It is the law that says all government activities are virtually open to the public. Cameras are virtually always n the courtroom. This trial will be a trial on television. That is something that all of us can think about the implications of that. But Florida is different. And they will have a trial like this.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/12/u...d-degree-murder-charge-in-florida.html?ref=us
By choosing to charge George Zimmerman with second-degree murder in the killing of Trayvon Martin, Angela B. Corey, the special prosecutor appointed to the case in Florida, selected the toughest possible charge involving a killing short of first-degree murder, which requires a finding of premeditation and carries the death penalty as a possible punishment.
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Under second-degree murder, the jury must find that a death was caused by a criminal act “demonstrating a depraved mind without regard for human life,” said Eric Abrahamsen, a criminal defense lawyer in Tallahassee, reading from the state’s standard jury instructions. The maximum sentence for second-degree murder is life in prison; the minimum penalty under these charges is 25 years.

Dan Markel, a law professor at Florida State University, said he was “very surprised” by the severity of the charges “in light of the evidence that seems to have been brought to the attention of the public so far.” Many legal experts had predicted that Mr. Zimmerman would be charged with manslaughter.

The charge of second-degree murder also means that Mr. Zimmerman will not be entitled to be released on bail before his trial. Instead, his lawyer will be able to ask for what Florida calls an Arthur hearing, which can take place weeks after the arrest, to determine whether he should be allowed to post bond.

Jeff Weiner, a former president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers who practices in Miami, said an Arthur hearing “is not a mini-trial, but it’s a very good preview of the evidence that the state has at this point.”

Mr. Weiner suggested that the prosecutor might have “overcharged” to retain the option, should she feel a murder conviction is slipping away, of asking the judge to instruct the jury to consider lesser offenses, like manslaughter. It is also possible, he said, that she might be trying to coax Mr. Zimmerman to the negotiating table to plead guilty to such a lesser charge. But, he added, it is impossible to say whether it is overly tough, since evidence has not yet been produced.

The case will almost certainly include a pretrial hearing to determine whether the state’s Stand Your Ground law, which grants broad protections to people who claim to have killed in self-defense, applies; if the judge finds that Mr. Zimmerman acted appropriately, the case will end there. If the judge decides that the protections of the law do not apply, the case will go forward.

At trial, however, the question of self-defense can be brought up again and possibly will, said Robert Weisberg, a criminal law expert at Stanford Law School. That could lead to a fallback position for the jury — if allowed by the judge — of a lesser verdict of manslaughter should the jury decide that Mr. Zimmerman sincerely but unreasonably believed that he was appropriately using lethal force to defend himself, which is known as “imperfect self-defense.”

Either side in the case could request that the judge instruct the jury to consider that middle ground, and if the evidence supports such a finding the judge will in almost all cases comply, Professor Weisberg said. A confident prosecutor may not want to risk missing the toughest conviction, however, and a confident defense lawyer may not want to risk giving the jurors a lesser charge that they can choose instead of acquittal. And so, he said, the question may come down to, “Who’s feeling lucky?”
 
perhaps you misunderstood his post.

he's saying that the federal government (DOJ) can get involved if the state legal matter may not have been properly resolved or is suspicious such as police misconduct from local to county to state to federal level.

example - Civil Rights Division Home Page and Welcome to the United States Department of Justice

Of course, he asked this question that I already know about this means.

I'm not stupid about understand of different degree on murders, however our state have capital murder, that's one of highest and most serious ever so can be sentence to death penalty. Every states have definition about degrees of murder in their law, however some states have capital murder in their law. After read plenty of news, the second degree murder is much make sense for George Zimmerman after explained about between manslaughter and second degree murder.

You are correct about federal can involve whatever it is necessary and I don't see any bias with FBI.
 
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