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Reba said:
Really?

At the risk of getting this thread locked, I must disagree.

Christians can be involved in the government process as long as they don't compromise their moral values.

Render unto Caesar . . .

Paul put to good use his legal status as a Roman citizen . . .
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I said only some - not all - of them do that. They are in a minority. Falwell certainly didn't belong to that school.
 
posts from hell said:
Just saying:

First Public School in the USA: 1635
First Public Park in the USA: 1825
First Public Highway in the USA: 1924

And the kicker: the first water system: 1450

I don't trust the graphic.
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This graphic is not about "First"...
 
netrox said:
This really says it all...

the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it.jpg
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hmmm, they were right... it doesn't end.

ahh, the evolution of socialism, don't you just love it?
 
sallylou said:
The conservatives hate Jefferson because he was a deist and coined the term “separation between church and state.” I have no idea why an academic panel doesn't make the curriculum decisions.

Don't even get me started on science education here. I've already taught my youngest kid about Darwin and the Scopes trial.
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I don't know where you got that idea that they hate Jefferson. they are very proud of the constitution and the founders. Just disappointed that people take separation of the state and church way too far.... to the point that every single views have to be neutral (like ALLDeaf neutral) .
 
Reba said:
He preached a misinterpretation of predestination.
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That statement alone is the reason why we're not allowed to discuss religions in many places in North America. Because those who feel Calvin's teachings is the right one would be offended by that.
 
We debate it all the time in colleges and churches. But we don't need to debate it in court system though. Unless what they doing to us is affecting us and our beliefs.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
I don't know where you got that idea that they hate Jefferson. they are very proud of the constitution and the founders. Just disappointed that people take separation of the state and church way too far.... to the point that every single views have to be neutral (like ALLDeaf neutral) .
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Well, 300 years ago... there were Christians, deists and atheists:

America didn't have:

Muslims
A large population of Jew (I means compared to 19th century)
Buddhists
Hindus
Bahá'í
Scientology
Rastafari
Neopagans
Sikhs
Zoroastrianism

So now we have all these religions in the mix, it's difficult for one religion not to infringe on another without being neutral.
 
you know, other religions only become a problems in public school and forcing us to pay taxes for something we feel morally wrong (and don't get started about war, not every Christian believe in war). I don't where else we would have a problem with them.
 
Reba, these legislators come from small, rural Texas towns. It's a different crowd. The conservatives in Austin, Dallas and Houston don't necessarily agree with them. Apparently, enough urban legislators do agree with them to pass legislation, though.

My city is very diverse. You can find people with every political and religious view here. That's why I prefer to leave religious issues for churches, synagogues, mosques and temples.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
you know, other religions only become a problems in public school and forcing us to pay taxes for something we feel morally wrong (and don't get started about war, not every Christian believe in war). I don't where else we would have a problem with them.
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Christians don't believe in war?


hmmm.... did not know that one either.
 
souggy said:
Well, 300 years ago... there were Christians, deists and atheists:

America didn't have:

Muslims
A large population of Jew (I means compared to 19th century)
Buddhists
Hindus
Bahá'í
Scientology
Rastafari
Neopagans
Sikhs
Zoroastrianism

So now we have all these religions in the mix, it's difficult for one religion not to infringe on another without being neutral.
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Don't forget Jedism!

That's getting popular too.
 
souggy said:
That statement alone is the reason why we're not allowed to discuss religions in many places in North America. Because those who feel Calvin's teachings is the right one would be offended by that.
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I'm not the one who brought up Calvin's teachings.

I guess we can add Calvin to the list of topics not to be discussed at AD.
 
Reba said:
I'm not the one who brought up Calvin's teachings.

I guess we can add Calvin to the list of topics not to be discussed at AD.
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No, but to say that he misinterpreted predestination to be wrong not appropriate either.

It's one thing to say this group of people believe in this, but it's another to imply that group of person is wrong to hold that spiritual belief.
 
Reba said:
I'm not the one who brought up Calvin's teachings.

I guess we can add Calvin to the list of topics not to be discussed at AD.
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I don't care for Hobbs either.....Just my two cents.... Oh but that Marmaduke, quite a character
 
Steinhauer said:
Christians don't believe in war?

hmmm.... did not know that one either.
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Christians as individuals are a diverse lot. Some may have personal convictions against war. There are also pacifist Christian groups.

Lighthouse did say "not every", so there are some Christians on each side of the issue. :)
 
Jiro said:
so if there are 2 Jillios..... Jillio A with a computer and Jillio B without a computer... who would be at advantage when it comes to academic research?
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Regarding speed, Jillio A would have the advantage. But Jillio B would still have access to the same research in different formats.

And, just being able to access the research does not mean one is educated. One has to be able to read it, understand it, synthesize it into their knowledge base, and then apply it to be educated. No computer in the world will do that for you.
 
souggy said:
No, but to say that he misinterpreted predestination to be wrong not appropriate either.
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But this statement is?

"Maybe because he [Calvin] preached predestination? It's easier to scare people with hell when you have that doctrine."

The implication is that the doctrine of predestination scares people with hell. I would like to defend the doctrine of predestination by saying it was not Calvin's interpretation. It's a positive doctrine, when interpreted correctly.


It's one thing to say this group of people believe in this, but it's another to imply that group of person is wrong to hold that spiritual belief.
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So, only some people are allowed to make or refute statements, and others, for fear of offending, need to clam up?
 
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