Time Travel

I am being think that death is too possible to stay alive. Neverless, anything is too impossible to save people from death. It's like you seen Time Machine, the movie and T3.

The natural can always find other way to end the life in order to prevent the timeline. Right?

I would say... if we send the assassin to the past to kill Hilter. The natural find the way to keep Hilter alive and well until he die on the right time.
 
Levonian said:
Well, that’s a very novel approach to deleting your own posts. We’ll have to keep that in mind if we ever post nude pictures of ourselves after drinking 15 Molson’s and some sadistic mod locks out our account.

But seriously, how do you propose that it’s even possible to go back in time? Even if you don’t change anything, and just go back as a hands off observer, where are you? If you went back in time, you can’t deny that you’re in a real, tangible place. Everything in the universe—every last star, planet, and speck of dust is in the same place it was back then. What happened to the future? Have you erased it and now it’s gone? Or does it exist somewhere else? If so, where is this ‘somewhere else’? Let’s say you get bored one day and hop into your time machine. You go back ten years, look around for about an hour, and get back in and go back another ten years. Then you do this a few more times. Where are all these places? Have you recreated the entire universe in several different locations? Or, if you have erased the future, how can you be where you are? The future is gone—therefore the act of you getting in the time machine never occurred.

There might be a way to observe the past, however. Remember that you don’t see an event until the light from the event reaches your eyes. So let’s say you want to witness JFK’s assassination. The light from that event is right now reaching a point forty light years away from Earth. At high warp, you could get out to that point in a few hours. You could then record the event, and recreate it on the holodeck. You could also use this technique to blackmail the mod into unlocking your account. As soon as your hangover goes away, you hightail yourself out to a point a few light days away from Earth, and you use infrared imaging to photograph him tossing off in the bathtub. :devil:
That's one of those other theories. Theoretically, it's possible to go back and change something... then when going back to the present, it's a different present. In other words, we're in an alternate universe. We also cease to exist in the original universe since we left it.

As for going back but not touching anything... that's impossible. ANYTHING can happen. Here's an example:

A fly is buzzing around down the sidewalk. It lands on this guy's neck while he's walking and he stops for a moment to slap the fly off. That fly escapes and that man proceeds to walk again.

*rewinding tape*

A fly is buzzing around down the sidewalk. You walk in its way causing it to fly a different direction. This guy is walking and the fly never lands on his neck. Since he has no reason to stop walking, he proceeds to cross the street and is hit by a car. This guy is actually the grandfather of your best friend who helped you build the time-traveling device. Since that guy died, your best friend never existed... therefore, no help or chance of doing the time-traveling device.

See? Anything can happen. Sure, we could go back and do what we can to leave it alone... and something still happens.

That's why I am aiming at the possibility that traveling back in time could never happen... only going forward.
 
illustrator said:
I am being think that death is too possible to stay alive. Neverless, anything is too impossible to save people from death. It's like you seen Time Machine, the movie and T3.

The natural can always find other way to end the life in order to prevent the timeline. Right?

I would say... if we send the assassin to the past to kill Hilter. The natural find the way to keep Hilter alive and well until he die on the right time.
Yes, that's another theory. If it happens, then it's meant to happen. There's no avoiding it. It's probably some unknown force in the universe that ensures that it will happen... no matter what. Imagine me going back in time to save JFK. He'd probably be grateful for me saving him. However, on his way back to the airport... he gets in a car accident and dies. Wait, I go back and save him again. He gets on the plane and the plane crashes. Jeez! Fine, I go back again. He decides to take a train instead, and the train gets derailed. Argh! Stop it! I go back again. He decides to take the bus, the bus goes off a bridge. Jeez! Can't anyone do anything properly? Oh wait, that's fate! Oh well, shit happens!
 
illustrator said:
I only know of sci-fiction tv show is "Viper" who the man who couldn't remember who he was actually bad man, yet change his heart to be good cop and drive viper that can change from red regular Dodge Viper into super viper. :dunno:

That's ain't time-machine involved.
Viper (The guy who used to be bad guy) and put him cyborg-frozen for long years until years is finished their sentence. That guy came out from cyborg-frozen and got in longest year never been on earth for long time..he was slept through long years. That how he felt and decide to be part of new life and become good cop. His age wud be 100's but he looks so fine young man..

That what I'm talk'n about but not refering looks like timetrax but simalir "viper"
If I suppose I do not want rapid aging years.. grab put me into the cyborg-frozen for another 70 years until it's time wake me up.. I'm already in FUTURE instead 2003's.
Undy ???
 
He was never frozen. He actually faced his own gang a couple years later. You're probably thinking of an old movie... like Futurama. This guy is defrosted for a specific reason and things go wrong so he ends up living his own life instead of the purpose that someone had him for.
 
This thread is a interesting..

Well I have nothing against the time travel, I would like to experience it for fun! Why not...
 
There's one other theory I saw from one television show. Time is created/based on memories of the people.

In that story, if the monster went to the past and began to kill people. Those people from present day will cease to exist. However, when the superhero defeat the monster to fix up the time. Time will undone the damage and people will return as long as there's someone to remember them in the present day after all it's because they existed in the memory so the Time will restore it. To me it's almost like computer with hard drive. If you don't have something to back it up after something happened to computer, then it will cease to exist for good. It's like time and memories are woven together.


And there's another theory I read in which if person went back to the past and killed that person. Then there will be a new timeline created, since you can't in a theory get rid of soul or life if it is already created in that timeline. So basically you will get two timeline, one with that person still alive and another one with that person dead or unborn. Sort of like parallel universe.

I also saw a theory that time travel will only exist when someone create the time machine. Once that machine is created, people in the future can only travel back up to that day the machine is created. So that means, if we created the machine today, future people can only travel up to today, not yesterday or the era of dinosaurs. That's because there's nothing to connect the time (making it loop or whatever) during dinosaurs era.

Also I think I only believe in one theory which is if you went to the past and tried to kill someone, your plan won't work because it has already happened. Something will most likely stop you from doing it. Paradox or whatever. Unless you are a god, you don't have that much power to actually change the Time itself imo. At most all you can do is looking at the scene, not changing it. But that's just my opinion. It's kinda hard to imagine the future being changed because of the past since it has already "happened." I guess I am looking at timeline as a straight line unable to go back and start again.

I really like to discuss stuff like this. It's always so interesting to see different theories and perspective on things most people don't really think about.
 
*cough* *cough* *cough* Easy on the dusting, Lev!

I remember the movie GA was talking about. A man was frozen because he was a criminal or something like that. The machine he was in broke down. It was years after all males were wiped out due to some kind of virus or something. The ladies continues to have girls due to IVF. The man didn't recognized his former finance who is now a very old woman. I don't remember the name of the movie but it is not "Viper".
 
I would love to see the past, as I love History and it would be neat to see it in front of your eyes instead of reading from a book, I look forward to the day that Time travel is invented...that is if I ever lived to it.

But one thing is very important, We can not change the time, as things has happened for a reason and changing it would cause huge mess. Just like that movie, Sound Thunder. Group came to the Dinosour time to hunt for dinosours for fun but as they return, they didn't nocitced that they took the butterfly with them that went into their backpack. Guess what happened? Huge change and we're not humans anymore, nor the top predator, instead we're some kind of seal or something and mean looking monkeys are top predator. So the man went back to time and changed it, putting the butterfly back and there, it went back to normal.

What I was tryin to say, even the smallest thing can change huge event.
 
I would love to see the past, as I love History and it would be neat to see it in front of your eyes instead of reading from a book, I look forward to the day that Time travel is invented...that is if I ever lived to it.

But one thing is very important, We can not change the time, as things has happened for a reason and changing it would cause huge mess. Just like that movie, Sound Thunder. Group came to the Dinosour time to hunt for dinosours for fun but as they return, they didn't nocitced that they took the butterfly with them that went into their backpack. Guess what happened? Huge change and we're not humans anymore, nor the top predator, instead we're some kind of seal or something and mean looking monkeys are top predator. So the man went back to time and changed it, putting the butterfly back and there, it went back to normal.

What I was tryin to say, even the smallest thing can change huge event.

That would be the Chaos theory, aka the Butterfly Effect.
 
Wow, interesting..

My opinion - -

One postive thing: preventing 9/11, stop Hilter instead of killing him, save Lindon Abe from being shot, etc etc. It may effect a timeline a little much better.

One negative thing: To change or discard a person's life is pretty bad idea, because it's totally unfair for them... One simple and small changable thing can cause a huge event.
 
Wow, interesting..

My opinion - -

One postive thing: preventing 9/11, stop Hilter instead of killing him, save Lindon Abe from being shot, etc etc. It may effect a timeline a little much better.

One negative thing: To change or discard a person's life is pretty bad idea, because it's totally unfair for them... One simple and small changable thing can cause a huge event.
They had an episode like that in Star Trek: The Original Series. McCoy went through a time portal... resulting in the Enterprise disappearing. Through research, Spock and Kirk learned that McCoy saved a woman's life. This resulted in the United States taking longer with World War II and the Nazis being able to develop a nuclear bomb first.
 
They had an episode like that in Star Trek: The Original Series. McCoy went through a time portal... resulting in the Enterprise disappearing. Through research, Spock and Kirk learned that McCoy saved a woman's life. This resulted in the United States taking longer with World War II and the Nazis being able to develop a nuclear bomb first.

wow, thats pretty interesting. I am not really know very much about Star Trek but thanks for sharing it with me. :)

I wonder, why did McCoy have to save her for? who is that woman?
 
wow, thats pretty interesting. I am not really know very much about Star Trek but thanks for sharing it with me. :)

I wonder, why did McCoy have to save her for? who is that woman?
McCoy is a doctor. It's human instinct to save another's life.

When McCoy jumped through the portal, he appeared confused with what was going on. The first person to help him was that woman. So, it was a typical reflex that any man would do for a woman who did something good beforehand.

Here's a full description of that episode...

The City on the Edge of Forever - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
McCoy is a doctor. It's human instinct to save another's life.

When McCoy jumped through the portal, he appeared confused with what was going on. The first person to help him was that woman. So, it was a typical reflex that any man would do for a woman who did something good beforehand.

Here's a full description of that episode...

The City on the Edge of Forever - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

:ty: for explaining and this link :)
It seemed good tv show to me through I am not big fan of star terk. I wonder, star terk is still running on or had been chancelled?
 
:ty: for explaining and this link :)
It seemed good tv show to me through I am not big fan of star terk. I wonder, star terk is still running on or had been chancelled?

Besy way to get them on DVD.
 
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