Thunderstorms, tornadoes, a possible derecho for Midwest

sonocativo said:
Then explain the harsh winters we are having????
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Beowulf said:
Global Warming causes extreme weather in addition to warming.
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yes. global warming comes with harsh global cooling to equalize it which tranlates to more extreme seasonal weather (tornado, hurricane, etc) plus prolonged season (just like our brutal winter)
 
Simply put, the more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, the more difficult it is for heat to escape Earth.

Hence the warm up.
 
sonocativo said:
Where, because Ive been everywhere today from Festus, St. Louis City, to West County and South county and just been sunny as can be. Back home now and a little clouding but dry still....
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Mainly northwestern Missouri, near Nebraska. That's what they were saying hours ago. I didn't see any reports of the St. Louis metro area having power losses.
 
Jiro said:
yes. global warming comes with harsh global cooling to equalize it which tranlates to more extreme seasonal weather (tornado, hurricane, etc) plus prolonged season (just like our brutal winter)
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But do you also know this is part of the cycle? There was the ice age, then global warming ( we have been in the global warming stage for millions of years...hint, reason ice caps are still here and slowly melting away) then millions of years from now we will head back to the ice age, sadly humans wont be around to experience that.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
What about the drought California been having for years ??
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This is pretty normal for Calfironia depends on where you live. Up north they get a lot of rain. Down south they get very little. Mid state can go either way. We almost never get rain from June to October but that is how is always is.
This year happens to be a really bad one for a drought. Most people follow the rules and cut back their water usage as asked to do.

Since we cut back on watering everything gets really dry.....fires are a real concern. 103º this weekend.
 
Angel1989 said:
This is pretty normal for Calfironia depends on where you live. Up north they get a lot of rain. Down south they get very little. Mid state can go either way. We almost never get rain from June to October but that is how is always is.
This year happens to be a really bad one for a drought. Most people follow the rules and cut back their water usage as asked to do.

Since we cut back on watering everything gets really dry.....fires are a real concern. 103º this weekend.
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No this is not normal for California, they're having a drought emergency right now and lost a lot of crops . This the worst it been years.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
No this is not normal for California, they're having a drought emergency right now and lost a lot of crops . This the worst it been years.
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Sorry, believe what you want but I have lived here my whole life. Yes this is a very bad drought year but we have had a lot worse. My husband is a civil engineer for the water department for 23 years, and they have not stopped supplying water to new building plans yet. We are still allowed to water our lawns and at this time have only been "asked" to cut back by 10-20%. We have low flow toilets, low flow shower heads etc. It's a way of life here. We have been taking our boat out and some of the lakes are still full.

Areas in Texas are far worse then we are here in California.

We have drought years then flood years it's a normal cycle for California.
I do believe National News takes the worst hit areas to report about. Just like they do here for areas back there.
 
It's normal. California has a long geological history of thousands of years of drought. Tree rings and live trees by the lakes in California had proved the geological history of drought.

The problem is that builders and developers had ignored soil scientists, geologists, agronomists, and geological history for years by keep building more houses and buildings and planted grasses and gardens instead that don't belong in desert in California.

If it were not for semi-desert climate, Hollywood, and Silicon Valley to attract people to come to California, then there'd be water problems. California population had increased, but the water storage systems hadn't.

My dad is a retired soil scientist and agronomist with Soil Conversation Service in California, and knows California geological history, and crops well. He had warned everyone so many times that water storage systems must be built, but environmentalists and their campaigns managed to prevent new water storage systems.
 
Angel and Barbaro is correct... it is normal for California not to get rain between June-October.. very dry summer climate. It has been that way for long enough... and besides, remember California is not the only state suffering from droughts.

Wildfires happen very easily especially in South California where lots of vegetations is very dry which is a big fuel for fires to spread so fast and out of control that it takes several weeks to contain it.
 
uk had worse floods on record this year but may have facts slightly wrong,Global warming
 
caz12 said:
floods in rest of your country put it out
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I was being facecious, but really, if you build a house on the beach, don't come running to me when the tide comes in. Same thing with California, with the knowledge that wildfires there are "normal," good luck and don't expect me to put the fires out around your home.
 
sonocativo said:
But do you also know this is part of the cycle? There was the ice age, then global warming ( we have been in the global warming stage for millions of years...hint, reason ice caps are still here and slowly melting away) then millions of years from now we will head back to the ice age, sadly humans wont be around to experience that.
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This is a discredited argument used by manufacturers. You mean, full speed ahead with the carbon dioxide and don't worry, folks, this is "normal?"
 
Beowulf said:
I was being facecious, but really, if you build a house on the beach, don't come running to me when the tide comes in. Same thing with California, with the knowledge that wildfires there are "normal," good luck and don't expect me to put the fires out around your home.
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When we had extremely dry conditions a couple years ago, we, too, were at risk for wildfires, but thankfully it never happened. However, it did make me realize that it's not just California that can have wildfires. Any state that has a bunch of trees and vegetation like Illinois does can also be at risk. What a wake-up call that was then. Just look at Oklahoma.
 
Beowulf said:
I was being facecious, but really, if you build a house on the beach, don't come running to me when the tide comes in. Same thing with California, with the knowledge that wildfires there are "normal," good luck and don't expect me to put the fires out around your home.
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totally agree with you...I was being fastious aswell in last post....never understand why build so much on faultline in California it going to happen one day
 
Hail damage in Omaha

Kind of bad:
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Really bad:
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