Those who decide not to get a CI

iavswn said:
WOW! SO sorry!
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I didnt take it personal...jsut told her off and reported her. She should be the one who is sorry.
 
I have been offered to have CI few times while growing up but always refused it even though my parents would like me to have it and thankfully they didn't go ahead so that good of them to do that.

Reason I didn't want CI is:
1) Having op to have it and I don't want op unless I really need it or my life at risk
2) I like being Deaf and have silent
3) I don't understand speech at all so no point for CI
4) I am unlikely to benefit with CI
5) Too much work with CI, mapping, speech training, audio training etc
 
I was told too, I could get CI if I wanted. Like I said earlier though, the technology is still to new. I want to see it advance much further if I were to ever get one. There is no going back either. Its an all or nothing. Once you got it that is that, no more residual hearing or using hearing aids ever again.
 
iavswn said:
faire_jour has it backwards anyways. CI didn't give deaf the ability to speak Oralism did. Oralism predates the CI.
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I didn't say that. Please read what I write before you react. I said that CIs offers the ability to hear spoken language to people who didn't have it before. That leads to an easier time learning spoken language for many.
 
faire_jour said:
I didn't say that. Please read what I write before you react. I said that CIs offers the ability to hear spoken language to people who didn't have it before. That leads to an easier time learning spoken language for many.
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Yes, but keep in mind...hearing a spoken language and understanding what you're hearing when you hear a poken language are completely different. Auditory comprehension is the key to understanding speech sounds...and that takes a lot of training and practice, especially if one has never heard sounds before
 
And in that sense...that's the reason deaf kids who are exposed to ASL often have better speech skills than a child who is implanted with CI along with receiving appropriate training...because sometimes the child who is getting exposure to language only through the aural-oral methods get behind in developing language skills..thus it's hard to learn speech if vocabulary and syntax are lacking...how can you speak a language if you don't understand the language? Luckily FJ's daughter is exposed to both (if I've read the posts correctly), which I believe is the reason she has really been successful with language and speech development along with getting all of the proper support she needs
 
deafbajagal said:
And in that sense...that's the reason deaf kids who are exposed to ASL often have better speech skills than a child who is implanted with CI along with receiving appropriate training...because sometimes the child who is getting exposure to language only through the aural-oral methods get behind in developing language skills..thus it's hard to learn speech if vocabulary and syntax are lacking...how can you speak a language if you don't understand the language? Luckily FJ's daughter is exposed to both (if I've read the posts correctly), which I believe is the reason she has really been successful with language and speech development along with getting all of the proper support she needs
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I believe that most kids get sign in the beginning, especially before they get implanted. But, truth be told, there are plenty that are oral only and do amazing. If you are exposed to fluent language, and you have access to that language, you will learn it.
 
deafbajagal said:
And in that sense...that's the reason deaf kids who are exposed to ASL often have better speech skills
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And better: art skills, abstract thinking, natural gesture communication, spatial recognition, spatial memory, peripheral vision, etc. :D
 
faire_jour said:
I believe that most kids get sign in the beginning, especially before they get implanted. But, truth be told, there are plenty that are oral only and do amazing. If you are exposed to fluent language, and you have access to that language, you will learn it.
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Yes, I know. I'm one of them. I learned spoken language, and fluently at that, with strictly aural-oral methods. I wasn't even allowed closed-captioning because they wanted me to try to understand the show by speechreading, etc. But it was a hard route. I never understood why would anyone make a child take a harder route when there are other ways to make it easier.

And not all children will learn to speak, even with every resource and support available to them. Some children are simply not wired for it. No one knows why. It's one of the unsolved mysteries that are baffling experts.
 
iavswn said:
And better: art skills, abstract thinking, natural gesture communication, spatial recognition, spatial memory, peripheral vision, etc. :D
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Exactly. The aspect of the brain that allows visual representations of a language. Good point!
 
If the world is silent and one is fine with that- what is to get excited about? Being deaf and actually experiencing SILENCE-every time I disconnect my Implant-interesting "some deaf" can ACTUALLY HEAR MUSIC. Are there different experiences of deafness?
Thoughts in reading #59 deafbajagal

Implanted Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07
 
deafbajagal said:
3. When being implanted with a CI, you actually lose ALL of the residueal hearing you had left. Which means if the CI fails in some fashion, you're chances of using advanced digital hearing aids is doomed.
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I was told that wasn't always the case. Or some sources have said that used to be the case more so with older CI's but perhaps not as much with the newer ones. I've also heard of some CI users saying they tried putting the HA in their implanted ear and it sounded the same. Depending on the sources, etc.

Anyway, as in my case, I was getting very little auditory input in one of my ears, even when putting an HA in it. And that's the ear I decided to do the implant on. Whereas the worst case scenario is that if I use all residual hearing in that ear, I was getting very little input in that ear anyway.
 
iavswn said:
“Deaf people can do anything, except hear.”- I. King Jordan
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I almost think that the statement is beginning to become a little outdated. That with the advances going on in the science, technological or medical field these days it's kind becoming more along the lines of "Deaf people can do anything and also hear better."
 
Miss-Delectable said:
I went to CI clinic for testings and such. They said I qualify. But I didn't opt for CI because I was told I'll get small improvement with CI, which is not much,
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You were told you won't get much improvement based on what? Your background? History?
 
iavswn said:
Because they were forced to speak they did not choose to speak. Eugenics was, and still is to some extent, very big among those who were advocates of Oralism. Its well documented in deaf history.

Eugenics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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I was glad I was thought to speak. And has also had the desire to try to improve my communication skills over the years even with the HA's and before I got the CI. And that's one reason why I got the CI.
 
shel90 said:
I am deaf and can speak!!! Oh wait....there is something wrong with this picture! I DONT have a CI and I cant speak!!! That's horrible!

:lol:
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There's a difference between being able to speak a few words or sentences in a straightforward sense or when you and the other person you might also know well are also talking about a familiar topic on hand and actually having a long, flowingly conversation.

Are you saying your speech is actually good enough to let's say, be an announcer on the News or something?
 
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