The world's second-ever octuplets were born

LakeTahoe said:
I just found out...their father is in Iraq! That's why they did not say 'father' present. They should have say something at the first place! :roll: I understand that they want just stay private....OH well!

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That's confusing. The LA Times article said it was the grandfather who went to Iraq, and that Nadya used a sperm donor.

"She and her children live with her mother in a 1,550-square-foot home in Whittier, and her father has been working in Iraq as a translator to help support the family."

Also, since her father was a translator in Iraq, does that mean the family is Iraqi?

So many questions about this story! :dizzy:
 
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Reba said:
That's confusing. The LA Times article said it was the grandfather who went to Iraq, and that Nadya used a sperm donor.

"She and her children live with her mother in a 1,550-square-foot home in Whittier, and her father has been working in Iraq as a translator to help support the family."

Also, since her father was a translator in Iraq, does that mean the family is Iraqi?

Some many questions about this story! :dizzy:
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The grandfather of the infants is Iraqi. But that isn't relevent to the birth of the infants.
 
jillio said:
The grandfather of the infants is Iraqi. But that isn't relevent to the birth of the infants.
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It is when the question came up about where was the father of the babies. The father of the babies was not in Iraq. No one knows who the father is.
 
She is definitely a nut case. She wanted one more and ended up having another 8 more! :roll:
 
Good Lord.

Clearly, something is wrong with this woman. I don't have a problem with families having many children... as long they aren't on welfare and can afford it.

This woman went broke and abandoned her house, she already had 6 children who are all young to start with. Now, she's living with her parents. I feel sorry for the grandparents.

The doctor would have to be a real quack to transfer that many embryos into her body all at once. Considering the situation, it is clear she will be unable to take care of all of the children especially when the father isn't around.

It's likely the children will be taken away sometimes soon and placed in foster homes and hopefully be placed into good homes. The only problem is, it's more than likely that they will all be apart from each other for years to come once that happens. Not much you can do about that.
 
Thanks for clarification!
Reba said:
That's confusing. The LA Times article said it was the grandfather who went to Iraq, and that Nadya used a sperm donor.

"She and her children live with her mother in a 1,550-square-foot home in Whittier, and her father has been working in Iraq as a translator to help support the family."

Also, since her father was a translator in Iraq, does that mean the family is Iraqi?

Some many questions about this story! :dizzy:
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Banjo said:
...It's likely the children will be taken away sometimes soon and placed in foster homes and hopefully be placed into good homes. The only problem is, it's more than likely that they will all be apart from each other for years to come once that happens. Not much you can do about that.
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Or maybe do like the Dionne Quintuplets?

"...In order to protect the quintuplets from exploitation the Ontario government took the girls away from their parents, Elzire and Oliva Dionne and their five older siblings. Despite their continuing good health, they were moved to a hospital, which was built across the road from their family home. The hospital, built exclusively for their use, was intended to protect their privacy but it quickly became a tourist destination...."
The Dionne Quintuplets: The Worlds First Known Surviving Quintuplets
 
Byrdie714 said:
They are already mentioning that it's costs approxiamately $ 250,000-$ 300,000 a day per child!

Sucks to be a California taxpayer at the moment. No offense to those that live in California. This is ridiculous. Then again------maybe the government of California will issue an IOU instead. :lol:
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Byrdie your absolutely right on that IOU that will be distributed instead of a refund check. Many locals are not looking at this birth as a miracle. They are pretty much in an uproar, at first she would not identify herself after the birth. Now, she's revealed her idenity. Yeah, not a happy situation costing taxpayers millions.
 
Reba said:
It is when the question came up about where was the father of the babies. The father of the babies was not in Iraq. No one knows who the father is.
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Still doesn't have anything to do with the grandfather's nationality. This is the maternal grandfather, not the paternal, so it has nothing to do with the paternity.

It has already been determined that all the children were the result of the same sperm donor. The public records search of the older children's birth certificates has revealed the identity, as well as the fact that he is married with another family.
 
jillio said:
Yep. For all those that laud the miracle of birth under any circumstances, and are so against a woman's right to choose not to be pregnant, yet support her right to choose to deliver octuplets despite the medical ethics that come into play.....you guys willing to shell out the bucks to support these babies?
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I for one have never supported taxpayers paying for this kind of fertility "treatment" for an unmarried women, so there's no change in my position. Without someone paying for this pregnancy in the first place, the eight births wouldn't have happened, and financial support wouldn't be necessary.

Also, this women had a "choice", and she chose to carry all eight to term. If real choice is involved, that means it can go either way, right? Or does "choice" mean only choosing abortion? Or does it mean you think she should have aborted some of the babies? Would that be her choice or your choice?

The person who isn't following medical ethics is the doctor. He should be charged with the violation.
 
Byrdie714 said:
The responses from pro-lifers on this issue is definately...deafening. (no pun intended!)
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Maybe it would help if the two threads were merged. I didn't even see this one until a few minutes ago.
 
Oh boy, that woman created overpopulation of babies that might cause us to squeeze in between trillions of homes at the edge in the future. Thanks a lot. :roll:
 
Reba said:
I for one have never supported taxpayers paying for this kind of fertility "treatment" for an unmarried women, so there's no change in my position. Without someone paying for this pregnancy in the first place, the eight births wouldn't have happened, and financial support wouldn't be necessary.

Also, this women had a "choice", and she chose to carry all eight to term. If real choice is involved, that means it can go either way, right? Or does "choice" mean only choosing abortion? Or does it mean you think she should have aborted some of the babies? Would that be her choice or your choice?

The person who isn't following medical ethics is the doctor. He should be charged with the violation.
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It is her choice to choose whether to abort the fetus or not but I think it was very irresponsible and reckless of her to make that choice to carry all of them...but she doesnt have to adopt my opinions nor beliefs. I just wouldnt get pregnant in the first place if I wasnt able to support my existing children and myself.
 
Reba said:
I for one have never supported taxpayers paying for this kind of fertility "treatment" for an unmarried women, so there's no change in my position. Without someone paying for this pregnancy in the first place, the eight births wouldn't have happened, and financial support wouldn't be necessary.

Also, this women had a "choice", and she chose to carry all eight to term. If real choice is involved, that means it can go either way, right? Or does "choice" mean only choosing abortion? Or does it mean you think she should have aborted some of the babies? Would that be her choice or your choice?

The person who isn't following medical ethics is the doctor. He should be charged with the violation.
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Nope. Choice extends both ways. But by taking away a woman's right to choose, it will insure that this occurs more often with multiple births as the woman will no longer be permitted to choose reduction.

Absolutely the physician involved stepped outside the standards of practice, and I have already made my position clear regarding the ethical violations.
 
shel90 said:
It is her choice to choose whether to abort the fetus or not but I think it was very irresponsible and reckless of her to make that choice to carry all of them...but she doesnt have to adopt my opinions nor beliefs. I just wouldnt get pregnant in the first place if I wasnt able to support my existing children and myself.
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I agree.
 
jillio said:
Still doesn't have anything to do with the grandfather's nationality. This is the maternal grandfather, not the paternal, so it has nothing to do with the paternity.
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No, the grandfather does not. But some other posters (and linked stories) stated that the man in Iraq was the father, so that's why it had to be clarified.

It has already been determined that all the children were the result of the same sperm donor. The public records search of the older children's birth certificates has revealed the identity, as well as the fact that he is married with another family.
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Is he a sperm donor, as in an anonymous med student who leaves a deposit at the bank? Or was he a sperm donor as a friend who was a donor to her only, as a favor? I'm asking because if he was a traditional donor for hire, would his name be on the birth certificates? Also, if he's know, does that mean he will be tapped for some of their financial support?

Each answer seems to breed (oops, pun) more questions in this story.
 
Reba said:
No, the grandfather does not. But some other posters (and linked stories) stated that the man in Iraq was the father, so that's why it had to be clarified.


Is he a sperm donor, as in an anonymous med student who leaves a deposit at the bank? Or was he a sperm donor as a friend who was a donor to her only, as a favor? I'm asking because if he was a traditional donor for hire, would his name be on the birth certificates? Also, if he's know, does that mean he will be tapped for some of their financial support?

Each answer seems to breed (oops, pun) more questions in this story.
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I would assume, since he is named on the birth certificates, that he was known to her. If he signed over parental rights, then he can't be held reponsible for support. Quite often, in the case of in vitro, parental rights are signed over at the time of fertilization in the petri dish, in a statement of absolving the father of any parental rights or resposibilities therein for any child that may result from the in vitro procedure. This is usually at the request of the mother, if it is the sperm only that she is interested in.
 
Mods: there are two threads about this subject...if it is ok with the OP, can u merge them cuz I am going :shock: trying to keep up with both of them. :lol:
 
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