The Tea Party are RACIST!!

[saywhatkid]

The jury is still out, to me, on whether the storyline of "Tea Party = racially motivated" is true in any part or not, and the fact that it's a popular refrain amongst many media outlets makes it somewhat more suspect to me.

I do not see any connection to Tea Party = more racist than a typical political movement. I think they are mostly against taxes, not blacks or Hispanics. You could probably find racists in the most liberal groups. You could probably find atheists in the most conservative groups. And so on. Being a member of a group does not prevent personal prejudices. Most people are like-minded in a group of this nature, but not 100%. Bad apples abound in our world, like it or not.

 

[jillio]

Might be well known, but unless an actual link can be shown, I tend to remain skeptical. Post hoc ergo propter hoc is a good phrase to keep in mind whenever you start thinking of guilt by association.

The jury is still out, to me, on whether the storyline of "Tea Party = racially motivated" is true in any part or not, and the fact that it's a popular refrain amongst many media outlets makes it somewhat more suspect to me. I think there might be related concerns (ie someone who is a racist might be worried about "big bad government trying to curtail my freedom to be a racist" which is somewhat similar (but not the same) as a the Tea Party position of "big bad government is spending my money on lazy poor people instead of me".

Sounds somewhat similar to the Salem Hypothesis. Someone who is a racist and is involved in politics at all is likely to be a Tea Party member. But someone who is a member of the Tea Party isn't (necessarily) likely to be a racist.

Given the history of so many of those who claim affiliation, I don't see where skepticism is applicable. But hey, you can ignore it if you choose. Most people do ignore that which is racist. It is more comfortable for them.

 

[Reba]

And Davenport, as a representative of the Tea Party, forwarded the e-mail. What is so difficult to understand?

She represents the Tea Party in what capacity?

I haven't found anything yet that says she is an official of the Tea Party.

 

[jillio]

She represents the Tea Party in what capacity?

I haven't found anything yet that says she is an official of the Tea Party.

Read the article. The answers you seek are there.

 

[Reba]

This is correct. The article doesn't claim that the Tea Party is directly affiliated with this email at all. It does, however, point out that an individual with a position of some authority in the Tea Party, is affiliated with the email.

That wasn't in the links that I read. Do you remember where you saw that?

She may be being held up as a representative for the Tea Party, essentially saying "they want people like this in charge, so they must not disagree with her". (I'm not sure I fully buy that argument either, mind you.)

I haven't read anything that said she is an official representative of the Tea Party.

 

[Reba]

Guilt by association. Well known concept. That is why it is wise to take care in the organizations that you claim to be supportive of or in agreement with.

What exactly is her association to the Tea Party?

 

[Reba]

Given the history of so many of those who claim affiliation...

What history? What proof?

I don't see where skepticism is applicable. But hey, you can ignore it if you choose. Most people do ignore that which is racist. It is more comfortable for them.

Making stuff up is just as bad as ignoring stuff.

 

[jillio]

What exactly is her association to the Tea Party?

The answers you seek are in the article.

 

[Reba]

Read the article. The answers you seek are there.

I posted the entire article for everyone to read. Davenport's relationship with the Tea Party is never mentioned.

 

[jillio]

What history? What proof?


Making stuff up is just as bad as ignoring stuff.

The news has been full of the history of this organization for the last year and a half. I've seen it; many others have seen it. Those who refuse to recognize it are generally doing so willingly. And when that lack of recognition is willing and conscious, it is useless to continue to point out the obvious.

 

[jillio]

I posted the entire article for everyone to read. Davenport's relationship with the Tea Party is never mentioned.

Perhaps your computer is leaving out the necessary text.

 

[Reba]

The answers you seek are in the article.

Where?

***UPDATE 4/19*** Tea activist and OC County GOP official Marilyn Davenport has apologized for sending out a racist image of President Obama.

According to KABC, Davenport issued a statement late Monday in which she apologized, but stopped short of addressing her future on the committee.

"I humbly apologize and ask for your forgiveness of my unwise behavior," the statement said. "I say unwise because at the time I received and forwarded the email, I didn't stop to think about the historic implications and other examples of how this could be offensive."

In the statement, Davenport also quoted the Bible and said she was "an imperfect Christian" who tried to "live a Christ-like honoring life."

"I would never do anything to intentionally harm or berate others regardless of ethnicity," she said. "I will not repeat this error."

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SANTA ANA, Calif. (AP) -- The California NAACP is demanding an apology from an Orange County GOP official who sent out an e-mail picturing President Barack Obama's face on the body of a baby chimpanzee.

In a statement Monday, the organization called on Marilyn Davenport to resign from the Orange County Republican Central Committee.

Several other black leaders were also holding a news conference to demand Davenport be thrown off the committee.

The message shows an image, posed like a family portrait, of chimpanzee parents and child, with Obama's face superimposed on the young chimp.

The text reads, "Now you know why no birth certificate."

Davenport's number rang busy on Monday. She has sent friends and supporters an email saying she won't resign.

There is not one mention of the Tea Party within the text of the article.

There is nothing in the article to support "Tea" in the headline.

From where are you getting your information?

 

[jillio]

Where?



There is not one mention of the Tea Party within the text of the article.

There is nothing in the article to support "Tea" in the headline.

From where are you getting your information?

You are trying too hard, Reba. What do you think "Tea activist" refers to?

 

[Banjo]

Where?

There is not one mention of the Tea Party within the text of the article.

There is nothing in the article to support "Tea" in the headline.

From where are you getting your information?

To quote your quote...

Tea activist and OC County GOP official Marilyn Davenport

 

[Reba]

The news has been full of the history of this organization for the last year and a half. I've seen it; many others have seen it. Those who refuse to recognize it are generally doing so willingly. And when that lack of recognition is willing and conscious, it is useless to continue to point out the obvious.

In other words, you can't support your statement with any proof so you try to shift the focus onto the questioner.

 

[jillio]

In other words, you can't support your statement with any proof so you try to shift the focus onto the questioner.

No, in other words, you are simply ignoring all that has been in the news in order to defend the position of this organization.

 

[Reba]

To quote your quote...

Again, that's not within the text of the article. Headlines and subheads are created for publication by the editorial staff, not the writer of the article. If "Tea" was pertinent to the article, why wasn't it included in the text of the article itself?

 

[Banjo]

Marilyn Davenport, a tea party activist and member of the Republican Party of Orange County, released a statement apologizing, but did not address her future on the central committee.

OC GOP official a no-show at committee meeting | abc7.com

 

[jillio]

And round and round and round we go!

Hold tight to those straws.

 

[Banjo]

Again, that's not within the text of the article. Headlines and subheads are created for publication by the editorial staff, not the writer of the article. If "Tea" was pertinent to the article, why wasn't it included in the text of the article itself?

It's an update to the article, not a subhead.