The new deaf generation....speaking and listening

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Ingroup? You mean that the hierarchy within a group is largely determined by standards of the dominant group?
 
jillio said:
Nope, a whole bunch of posts that vacillate back and forth so that your position is completely unclear.

I took the time to look up your posts in consecutive order to demonstrate the vacillation. Now you ask for more. You are really reaching here. Can't you just accept that the majority of posters contributing to this thread could not determine what your position was from your posts, and that for all purposes, it appeared that you were simply being argumentative? No, I guess you can't. Oh, well.
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You listed my posts, and I think they all drive the same position. If you are going to claim an inconsistency, don't play a silly guessing game, just say: you say x = y here and x does not =y there.
 
GrendelQ said:
You listed my posts, and I think they all drive the same position. If you are going to claim an inconsistency, don't play a silly guessing game, just say: you say x = y here and x does not =y there.
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You think they do. Others have a different take on it.
 
DeafCaroline said:
You would think a history teacher would know about the deaf people being exterminated in the Holocaust or experimented upon. tsk.
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Red herring, DeafCaroline. Either you stop lying about me or you argue a point. If you can't argue a point, don't even bother.

My position is that a person who is deaf that wants to articulate and use a speech therapist IS NOT THE SAME FUCKING THING AS A BLACK PERSON TRYING TO MAKE OFF AS BEING A WHITE ONE.

Okay? That lynch mobs and the Holocaust is NOT the same thing as deaf discrimination in America right now. No fucking way. Stand on your own merits and do NOT subtract from my family's experiences. I really fucking resent it and it makes you (or anyone doing this) look dumb or desperate.
 
jillio said:
Yes. You would think that anyone who has experienced oppression in any form could see the connection to the oppression in another group.
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Hey Jillio, did you know that apples and oranges are both fruits??
 
TheOracle said:
Red herring, DeafCaroline. Either you stop lying about me or you argue a point. If you can't argue a point, don't even bother.

My position is that a person who is deaf that wants to articulate and use a speech therapist IS NOT THE SAME FUCKING THING AS A BLACK PERSON TRYING TO MAKE OFF AS BEING A WHITE ONE.

Okay? That lynch mobs and the Holocaust is NOT the same thing as deaf discrimination in America right now. No fucking way. Stand on your own merits and do NOT subtract from my family's experiences. I really fucking resent it and it makes you (or anyone doing this) look dumb or desperate.
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All I have to tell you is a name, AGB.

If he was still alive these days, deaf people like yourself would be fearing for their lives.
 
jillio said:
And I have been discriminated against for being a Black Jew, and I see the connection to what I have experienced and what the Deaf have experienced, as well as similarities in the historical perspectives.
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If you really are Jewish, you should try to infuse a little bit of chutzpah into your arguments instead of resorting to ad hominem attacks. That's not the Torah way.
 
posts from hell said:
All I have to tell you is a name, AGB.

If he was still alive these days, deaf people like yourself would be fearing for their lives.
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Yeah, and if Hitler had gotten a little further, I wouldn't be a Jewish woman in Denver.

Your point?
 
TheOracle said:
Yeah, and if Hitler had gotten a little further, I wouldn't be a Jewish woman in Denver.

Your point?
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If you failed to see my point, you need to learn Deaf history before you come in here trying to slug some stuff around.
 
TheOracle said:
Red herring, DeafCaroline. Either you stop lying about me or you argue a point. If you can't argue a point, don't even bother.

My position is that a person who is deaf that wants to articulate and use a speech therapist IS NOT THE SAME FUCKING THING AS A BLACK PERSON TRYING TO MAKE OFF AS BEING A WHITE ONE.

Okay? That lynch mobs and the Holocaust is NOT the same thing as deaf discrimination in America right now. No fucking way. Stand on your own merits and do NOT subtract from my family's experiences. I really fucking resent it and it makes you (or anyone doing this) look dumb or desperate.
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Wow! Explosive anger going on there. What did you say about arguing a point.

Deaf Caroline told no lies about you. She simply made an observation.

Take a chill pill.
 
TheOracle said:
Red herring, DeafCaroline. Either you stop lying about me or you argue a point. If you can't argue a point, don't even bother.

My position is that a person who is deaf that wants to articulate and use a speech therapist IS NOT THE SAME FUCKING THING AS A BLACK PERSON TRYING TO MAKE OFF AS BEING A WHITE ONE.

Okay? That lynch mobs and the Holocaust is NOT the same thing as deaf discrimination in America right now. No fucking way. Stand on your own merits and do NOT subtract from my family's experiences. I really fucking resent it and it makes you (or anyone doing this) look dumb or desperate.
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Easy there, your temper's getting the best of you. You need to learn a hell lot more about the history of the world.
 
"Defective" children used to be hidden away of institutionalized not far back. You're young and apparently aren't familar with society's past.
 
Oracle, discrimination is still discrimination, regardless of how it's carried out. Some get lynched, some get put in ovens, some get beaten up every single day.

And right now I am thinking about this terrified young lady who knows she is going endure hell on earth like none of us have been through when she goes home tonight just because she's deaf.

so carry your little outraged indignant act elsewhere. you clearly have no idea what some people go through for being deaf.
 
Some have their spirit crushed and live in quiet desperation.
 
TheOracle said:
If you really are Jewish, you should try to infuse a little bit of chutzpah into your arguments instead of resorting to ad hominem attacks. That's not the Torah way.
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Please point me to an ad hominem attack. Do you even know what the meaning is?

I, frankly, don't care whether you believe I'm Jewish or not. Or whether I am just as much African American as I am Jewish.

Did you come in here to simply lecture people and try to assert some sort of feelings of superiority over others? What, exactly, is your connection to Deaf Culture or the deaf community?
 
Oh, and the Torah way either does or doesn't include those who sound funny from Minnesota or Georgia.

Hey, who here said they had chill pills ?? Somebody mentioned it the other day.
 
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