The Last Verdict: The Final Judgment Part 2

[XBGMER]

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Well I am sorry, I just don't believe in the judgemental.

Yes I second that*

There is no the final judgment for good and bad recurrect from the dead. Like I confirm only people bring the great wrath of the final judgment on this people (good vs bad/bad vs bad/good vs bad) against eachothers fill the earth with volience like the days of Noah as the son of man can be judge others what Jesus told disciples. itsnt the spirit bring the final judgment. the man is the son of man fully capable bring the judgment. Human being is judge, thats simple.

I mean the act of judge. I don't believe to judge a person's whole entire life. But my point is that, I don't believe in act of judge, but I am not sure about the "Judgemental Day", maybe it would be like that Judgemental Day in Terminator movies, who knows?

Puypiyo, I correct you, bad people include good people, christians would be more involve like judgment day in terminator movie! Can you see US armies, others involved war with europe and japan from 1940 around, You correct me if I am wrong.

Don't doubt yourself.. smile. I admire your logic speaking about anything. stick your logical as the same way I do!

 

[Hwy99]

via 8320~

Yes I second that*

There is no the final judgment for good and bad recurrect from the dead. Like I confirm only people bring the great wrath of the final judgment on this people (good vs bad/bad vs bad/good vs bad) against eachothers fill the earth with volience like the days of Noah as the son of man can be judge others what Jesus told disciples. itsnt the spirit bring the final judgment. the man is the son of man fully capable bring the judgment. Human being is judge, thats simple.

Puypiyo, I correct you, bad people include good people, christians would be more involve like judgment day in terminator movie! Can you see US armies, others involved war with europe and japan from 1940 around, You correct me if I am wrong.

True!

Don't doubt yourself.. smile. I admire your logic speaking about anything. stick your logical as the same way I do!

So do I admire your post with your own logic I am just trying do my best and keep the debate smooth, try to keep my beliefs around my posts clear And sure will do! (refer to your last sentence)

 

[Cheri]

False views about Afterlife.

If a man is not familiar with the bible, he has suffered a loss which he had better make all possible haste to correct

Let me ask you a far more important question: Where do you want to spend eternity when you die? Would you rather learn from a book that was written by the God that created you and knows everything that there is to know, and also a God that has the power and authority to save or destroy your soul (in hell)? Or, would you rather ask the first person's philosophy you meet off the street? I would hope you chose the Bible, because the right choice could mean an eternity in heaven, or the wrong choice could mean an eternity in hell

Sadly one day those who do not believe in hell will believe in it because they will end up there if they die without receiving the Lord Jesus Christ.

is a false belief that a loving God would never send anyone to hell. It teaches that all mankind will be saved and brought back to God and holiness.
The fact is, God doesn't want anyone to go to hell. But since He is a loving God, He allows people to make their own choice. So it depends on the person's own decision where they will end up; heaven or hell. "For the wages of sin is death (hell); but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" (Romans 6:23).

Polls consistently reveal that most people believe in heaven and believe they are going there. Far fewer believe in hell, and almost no one believes they are going there. Remember, just because a person does not believe something the Bible teaches does not make make them right and the Bible wrong. What we need to understand is when things are inconvenient or uncomfortable to think about, many people decide to push it off and decide their own philosophy is the truth. This makes them more comfortable

Evolution - Is a false belief that mankind is the result of random chance. The belief that when you die you no longer exist.
Why do people believe in evolution even though the Bible teaches that all life was created by Almighty God? (Gen 1:1)

Reincarnation - is the false belief that when someone or something dies, their soul comes back in another body or form. Death is not to be feared because the soul just get born into another body taking wisdom that they have gathered in their previous life or lives. When a person dies they really don't die, but are reincarnated

The Bible says we die only once and then the judgment. "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment": (Hebrews 9:27)

If a person lives a good moral life=they will go to heaven. Again, the Bible disagrees; "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; (Roman 3:23)

Now at the end:

The Bible teaches us that hell was prepared for the devil and his angels. After Lucifer and his host of angels rebelled against their creator God, they were cast out of heaven and hell was prepared for them. The reason men go to hell is because they also have rebelled against God. All men are separated from God until they receive the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. If you have not received Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, Satan is your Father and hell is your destiny. There are no in-betweens

 

[Hwy99]

^^^Well I am sorry, I usually dislike any article that label other beliefs as "false teaching", which are sorta of insulting, JMO.

 

[Cheri]

Everyone posted pros and cons articles. It's not insulting.

 

[Hwy99]

Everyone posted pros and cons articles. It's not insulting.

I didn't say that people talking about the pro or cons, I was talking about when a person label other beliefs as "false teaching".

 

[Cheri]

I didn't say that people talking about the pro or cons, I was talking about when a person label other beliefs as "false teaching".

It's the same as people who says that there is no God, is that false teaching?

 

[Hwy99]

It's the same as people who says that there is no God, is that false teaching?

Who's the people who say that there are no God that also say it was false teaching that there was a God?

I am sorry, it's my opinion that it was rude to label other beliefs as false teaching.

How would you feel if Reba was trying to help me understand the bible, I told her that it was a false teaching? It would be insulted to her, JMO.

 

[Cheri]

Who's the people who say that there are no God that also say it was false teaching that there was a God?

I am sorry, it's my opinion that it was rude to label other beliefs as false teaching.

How would you feel if Reba was trying to help me understand the bible, I told her that it was a false teaching? It would be insulted to her, JMO.

This article is not naming anyone in participle, second of all when people says there's no God. It is an insult to the believers. But, we let them say what they want, why can't we?

God doesn't exist
Christens actually worshipping What??
I could bring up more and more, but you get my drift?

 

[Hwy99]

This article is not naming anyone in participle, second of all when people says there's no God. It is an insult to the believers. But, we let them say what they want, why can't we?

God doesn't exist
Christens actually worshipping What??
I could bring up more and more, but you get my drift?

First of all, I never say that the article was insulting to anyone, but their beliefs.

Yupp I understand what you mean, but all I was saying is that it is rude to call other beliefs as "false teaching", that's all.

 

[Reba]

First of all, I never say that the article was insulting to anyone, but their beliefs.

Yupp I understand what you mean, but all I was saying is that it is rude to call other beliefs as "false teaching", that's all.

It's not rude if it is done in a non-personal way.

Suppose someone was teaching a made-up sign language at your college and called it "ASL". You would have the right to inform people that it was "false teaching." In fact, you would have the obligation to inform people that it was false teaching because you want to save them from learning wrong stuff. You don't want them to waste their time and money learning something that is false. You don't want people getting the wrong image of ASL when they see someone using made up signs.

 

[Hwy99]

It's not rude if it is done in a non-personal way.

Suppose someone was teaching a made-up sign language at your college and called it "ASL". You would have the right to inform people that it was "false teaching." In fact, you would have the obligation to inform people that it was false teaching because you want to save them from learning wrong stuff. You don't want them to waste their time and money learning something that is false. You don't want people getting the wrong image of ASL when they see someone using made up signs.

Your story about the ASL situation is different because I say that was a false teaching only if they are messing up with our language, I would be there to correct them, but not using the two words, "false teaching".

Plus that article that Cheri provided, that man was just talking out about other religions, and he didn't say any of his reason that belief was a false teaching, which are the false teaching.

It's just that if someone just talking about other religion negatively which that person was mistake about other religion, then that would be a false teaching without offend.

But... if a person was talking negatively against other religion on the base of their (religions) word, then it's not a false teaching, but expressing his/her own opinion about the other religions.

****EDITED****** I just realized that man wrote the article doesn't say anything about the Envolution, Reincarination, and other one, I can't remmy, but to those three thing that a reason why he stats them as false teaching.

 

[Reba]

Your story about the ASL situation is different because I say that was a false teaching only if they are messing up with our language, I would be there to correct them, but not using the two words, "false teaching".

If someone is messing up with my Lord and His Word, I would be there to correct them. It's the same thing.

But... if a person was talking negatively against other religion on the base of their (religions) word, then it's not a false teaching, but expressing his/her own opinion about the other religions.

What is the basis for those differences? One religion is teaching correctly, and one religion is teaching falsely.

 

[Reba]

^^^Well I am sorry, I usually dislike any article that label other beliefs as "false teaching", which are sorta of insulting, JMO.

If the teachings are false, what else can you call them?

 

[Hwy99]

What is the basis for those differences? One religion is teaching correctly, and one religion is teaching falsely.

And I don't know which is the truth.

If the teachings are false, what else can you call them?

Probably many different ways for that like "Oh I am afraid that you are mistake", "Oh I am sorry,.....", "Excuse me,...." "......,just correct your mistake", etc etc...

 

[Cheri]

God's plan of Salvation:

-Premortal Existence (presence of God, our Eternal Father)
-The Creation, the Fall, and Birth (is birth, which involves the Creation and the Fall of Adam and Eve)
-Mortality (the meaning of Life)
-Death (Death is the separation of the physical body from the spirit)
-Spirit World: Life After Death (Paradise and Prison) (Our spirit does not die when our body does, but continues to live. After we die our spirit leaves our mortal body and enters the spirit world)
-Resurrection (The body and mind will be perfect; there will be no diseases, illnesses, deformities, or other disabilities)
-Judgment (we will come before God, the Eternal Father, to be judged. Through Jesus Christ, God will judge every single person who has ever lived on the earth)

 

[Cheri]

And I don't know which is the truth.

Exacty! Then how come you say it's wrong for this person to say it's a false teaching according to the bible. He was only following everything that states by the bible.

Just like you for example, You follow the Evolution, which you believe in theories to our everyday lives.

 

[Hwy99]

Exacty! Then how come you say it's wrong for this person to say it's a false teaching according to the bible. He was only following everything that states by the bible.

Just like you for example, You follow the Evolution, which you believe in theories to our everyday lives.

Whoa, I think you are jump over the line right now, I never say that I believe into the Envolution, nor the Creationism. I have always say that I only believe anything that are proveable.

 

[Reba]

Probably many different ways for that like "Oh I am afraid that you are mistake", "Oh I am sorry,.....", "Excuse me,...." "......,just correct your mistake", etc etc...

I'm calling the teachings false, not the person. The teachings are a thing, not a person. I can't say, "excuse me" to a doctrine or philosophy.

If a group teaches its followers that Hitler loved Jews, that is false. That statement is a false teaching. If I say, "No, that's false; Hitler did NOT love Jews," that's not rude to any persons. That's correcting the teaching.

 

[Cheri]

Whoa, I think you are jump over the line right now, I never say that I believe into the Envolution, nor the Creationism. I have always say that I only believe anything that are proveable.

Then you should read your old post Evolution vs Creationism and many times you agree with Liebling's posts and she believes in Evolution.