The incredible shrinking president

[anakin]

:Ohno: you should go to rehab for this severe obama addiction you have.. it doesn't look too healthy on you.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

Obama is politics.

 

[kokonut]

More on his diminishing power of little returns....

Facing rising unemployment rates and having seen uncertain results from the stimulus bill, President Obama is hosting a “jobs summit” at the White House Thursday that will be packed with business leaders and economists supportive of White House policies but lacks a diversity of opinion, several analysts say.

Missing from a partial list of attendees released by the White House are the self-proclaimed voices of business – the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the National Federation of Independent Business – both of which have been critical of Mr. Obama’s proposed health care overhaul.

Confirmed attendees include liberal economists credited with shaping the $787 billion stimulus package, union leaders, environmental advocates and executives from Google and other blue-chip firms.

“He’s going to get lots of recommendations to spend more money,” said Peter Morici, a professor at the University of Maryland’s Robert H. Smith School of Business. “These are the very same people who gave us the stimulus package. My feeling is we’re not going to get what we need, and that’s a complete change in direction on economic policy.”

Critics not invited to White House 'jobs summit' - Washington Times

Not surprised tho.

 

[Reba]

I'm confused. The title to this thread indicates that the topic is about the President but the content of most of the posts is about kokonut.

 

[Cowpuppy]

When one chooses to talk trash about someone it comes back at ya. People are politics. Somebody's pals reilly coulter beck limpbaugh rag on about certain persons all the time. You speak the same language. rag on someone it comes back at ya.....but you've played double standard again.....you can rag same as beck coulter limpbaugh reilly....but you expect it can't come back at ya. double standard.
you talk trash

 

[Jiro]

I'm confused. The title to this thread indicates that the topic is about the President but the content of most of the posts is about kokonut.

you should have seen what he posts in other forums especially about us and Obama. It's that bad... really bad. It's exactly what I accused him of - bigotry and racism. add this to the list - intellectual dishonesty.

 

[saywhatkid]

I'm confused. The title to this thread indicates that the topic is about the President but the content of most of the posts is about kokonut.

I agree. Why is it that every topic he posts becomes a trolling/insult thread? Could it be that the members here have no respect for him? Why should that be a green light?

I notice you come to his rescue sometimes. Nobody gangs up on you. Maybe your method of debating is different from his? Perhaps you have earned respect? Might be because you are not a "one trick pony" but are posting in other areas besides the Obama bashing stuff. I respect you, even though we differ often in our comments. Your replies are well thought out, and not a dronish list of biased weblinks. You have self taught principles.

OK, back to topic: Obama is shrinking....he is pretty thin already. Did he diet?

 

[saywhatkid]

you should have seen what he posts in other forums especially about us and Obama. It's that bad... really bad. It's exactly what I accused him of - bigotry and racism. add this to the list - intellectual dishonesty.

You mean, he has time to post elsewhere? Good Lord, that is dedication.

And to learn he does not like or respect members of this site is just so....shocking! We have names for this type of thing. Reminds me of the "circle flies" joke.

 

[Jiro]

You mean, he has time to post elsewhere? Good Lord, that is dedication.

And to learn he does not like or respect members of this site is just so....shocking! We have names for this type of thing. Reminds me of the "circle flies" joke.

plus his own blogs

 

[deafskeptic]

plus his own blogs

And on his blog Kokonut Pundits, he warns readers against AD.

 

[Jiro]

alright - back to topic. this is what kokonut wants - to feed on your hate. ever wonder how Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh stay popular? why feed fate to him? it'll empower him. Simply ignore kokonut and ask questions to the thread that kokonut will not answer

so what do I have for this thread? nothing to contribute since I've said my piece, my questions gone unanswered, kokonut will continue to repeat, twist your posts, etc... so I'm out!

 

[kokonut]

I see that ya'll are still intent on purposely derailing this thread? You know, there is an ignore feature in AD? And that you do not have to read my threads, too? No one forcing you to read here and yet you complain incessantly?

Unreal.

Anways, more on Obama shrinking influence and power.

The Obama cult wakes up to reality...a good read from WaPo.

It was bound to happen eventually. Obama had become to his youthful supporters a vessel for all of their liberal hopes. They saw him as a transformational figure who would end war, save the Earth from global warming, restore the economy -- and still be home for dinner. They lashed out at anybody who dared to suggest that Obama was just another politician, subject to calculation, expediency and vanity like all the rest.

Certainly, Obama gets some blame for encouraging the messianic cult as he stumped for change and hope. "I am asking you to stop settling for what the cynics say we have to accept," he would say as he wrapped up speeches. "Let us reach for what we know is possible: A nation healed. A world repaired. An America that believes again."

In other cases, Obama truly has gone back on campaign vows. Even some of his advisers are disappointed that he has moved so slowly to close the Guantanamo Bay prison. Civil libertarians are justifiably disappointed with his decision to continue much of the Bush administration secrecy. Clean-government types are understandably frustrated that Obama vowed that lobbyists "will not get a job in my White House" but now grants waivers so that lobbyists can work in key administration jobs.

But at least as much blame for the disillusionment goes to progressives who simply expected too much of him. Some are disappointed that the Nobel Peace Prize winner proposed even higher defense spending than George W. Bush did -- but Obama never said he would cut the Pentagon's budget. Many liberals are disappointed that he isn't pushing the "public option" more forcefully in the health-care debate -- but it was never something Obama emphasized during the campaign.

washingtonpost.com

Might as well as call him the amazing taffy man since he seems to be trying to do and be everything to everybody all at once.

Already his combined polls on his job approval fell below 50% with CNN running at 48%
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

Things have gone from hopey changey attitude to the beginning stages of disillusionment among fawning O-bots.

 

[Jiro]

Obama approval rating below 50 percent

OH NO!!!!!! below 50%!!!!!!

but as a college-educated man, I continue on reading to find an explanation to why President Obama is shrinking...

Washington (CNN) -- Support for President Obama has dropped below 50 percent for the first time in a CNN poll despite high marks for his recently announced Afghanistan policy.

Forty-eight percent of Americans questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. national survey released Friday said they approve of the job Obama is doing as president -- a drop of 7 percentage points from a survey last month.

Fifty percent said they do not approve. The difference of 2 percentage points between approval and disapproval falls within the range of the poll's sampling error.

"The poll indicates that the biggest drop in approval comes from noncollege-educated white voters," said Keating Holland, CNN's polling director. "That's one indication among many that Obama's growing unpopularity may be more related to unemployment and the poor economy" than to factors such as his strategy for Afghanistan.

Six in 10 of those questioned said they favor Obama's move to send 30,000 more troops to that country. Two-thirds also support his plan to start removing U.S. forces from Afghanistan in 2011 -- although the poll indicates most Americans think that announcing such a date in advance was a bad idea, and they are skeptical about whether conditions then will allow the United States to meet that goal.

And support for Obama's policies does not translate into backing for the war; a majority still said they oppose U.S. action in that country.

"That may currently be a reflection on George W. Bush rather than Obama," Holland said. "Two-thirds say they blame the former president, not Obama, for the problems the U.S. currently faces in Afghanistan."

But the poll suggests the conflict eventually may become Obama's war, with 54 percent saying they will blame him for any problems the U.S. faces in Afghanistan in 2011.

The poll was conducted Wednesday and Thursday after the president spelled out his new Afghanistan policy in a prime-time address Tuesday night at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, New York.

Several polls in late November indicated Obama's approval rating had dipped this low even before this week's speech. Weekly averages of national polls from mid-October through mid-November showed Obama's approval consistently at 52 percent or 53 percent.

"But in the week before Thanksgiving, his average approval rating slipped to 49 percent -- solid evidence that something was going on before Obama announced his Afghan policy," Holland said.

Obama's rating dropped 18 percentage points among noncollege whites, but 4 points among whites who attended college, a good indication the economy and other domestic issues may be hurting the president.

Obama also dropped 15 percentage points among whites under 50, but 4 points among older whites.

"That may partly be due to Afghanistan," Holland said, "but the young are also the group hardest hit when unemployment rises. The same is true for white women, whose approval of Obama dropped 12 points."

Obama is not the first president to drop below 50 percent in his first year in the White House. President Reagan's approval rating dipped to 49 percent in November 1981 and stayed below that mark for two years. President Clinton also dropped well below the 50 percent mark by May 1993, the fastest fall on record.

The CNN/Opinion Research poll was conducted by telephone, with 1,041 people questioned. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points.

whew! I feel better now..... you?

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

Kinda hard to ignore when people keep pasting posts on instant messengers...

 

[Jiro]

Kinda hard to ignore when people keep pasting posts on instant messengers...

ESC to close the instant messenger window. use it.

 

[kokonut]

The Zero-Sacrifice Presidency.

Obama tells us that we can have quality, universal health care without increasing the deficit. He tells us that he intends to have the 9/11 detainees given a fair trial in a civilian court but assures us that the trials will end in convictions. He declares that he will wage war in Afghanistan, but pledges to start bringing the troops home in 18 months. And everybody nevertheless takes these contradictory, irreconcilable statements seriously, as they parse, analyze, scrutinize Obama’s every word for some kind of coherent meaning. The president is like the character Chance in the novel and movie Being There, whose every fatuous utterance was celebrated for its profundity.

It’s often their status as powerful men in their realm that keeps them honorable in their own eyes. “I am all this, and no contradiction will stand in my way.” In Obama’s case, he is still being enabled by starry-eyed hope-addicts who at the same time don’t want to give up on their investment in his historical uniqueness. His constituents have become co-dependents

The Zero-Sacrifice Presidency - The Daily Beast

Just like the recent Obama speech at West Point, he doesn't show that kind of steely resolve with any deep seated conviction and belief. And that's not a good thing to have.

 

[Reba]

you should have seen what he posts in other forums especially about us and Obama. It's that bad... really bad. It's exactly what I accused him of - bigotry and racism. add this to the list - intellectual dishonesty.

Since that occurs in other forums, that's where it should be taken care of.

 

[Reba]

I agree. Why is it that every topic he posts becomes a trolling/insult thread? Could it be that the members here have no respect for him? Why should that be a green light?

I notice you come to his rescue sometimes. Nobody gangs up on you. Maybe your method of debating is different from his? Perhaps you have earned respect? Might be because you are not a "one trick pony" but are posting in other areas besides the Obama bashing stuff. I respect you, even though we differ often in our comments. Your replies are well thought out, and not a dronish list of biased weblinks. You have self taught principles.

OK, back to topic: Obama is shrinking....he is pretty thin already. Did he diet?

Not just kokonut's threads. I've noticed it happen to other posters also, and I try to speak up for them also. Some of them have quit posting. It seems too many threads end up as trash-talking competitions about the posters rather than discussing the titled topic.

Yes, Obama could be shrinking in stature--that is, his public image stature. Many of his early supporters are disappointed with the actions (or non-actions) of his administration. I think the rose-tinted glasses are starting to fade for them, and the bright light of reality is becoming an irritation.

Diet? South Beach? Nah, South Lawn (White House).

 

[Jiro]

Since that occurs in other forums, that's where it should be taken care of.

how can we listen to a person with history of bigotry, racism, and dishonesty? It's called credibility. We post links from source including bloggers for credibility purpose.

beside - his debating style is one-way.

 

[Cowpuppy]

The posters you defend are republicans....the issue for you is not personal attacks but defending republicans. And like you know who....you're trying to call it something else. Being dishonest about your intent. Like someone who calls people frigid then pretends he is not name calling. And attacks others for name calling. Double standard. As he applies to himself constantly. Insults intelligence.
Our intelligence is insulted by someone who pretends we are dummies. Constantly insulting our intelligence.
And yes ...racist......deal with it in other forum? racism deserves to be handled in any manner....don't let the bigots hide.....when someone's personallity stinks people go after that person. Seems you are inheritting his double standard of changing rules to fit your needs.

Not just kokonut's threads. I've noticed it happen to other posters also, and I try to speak up for them also. Some of them have quit posting. It seems too many threads end up as trash-talking competitions about the posters rather than discussing the titled topic.

Yes, Obama could be shrinking in stature--that is, his public image stature. Many of his early supporters are disappointed with the actions (or non-actions) of his administration. I think the rose-tinted glasses are starting to fade for them, and the bright light of reality is becoming an irritation.

Diet? South Beach? Nah, South Lawn (White House).