Texas Board Passes Social Studies Curriculum

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souggy said:
Do you know how it started?

Do you know what come before the supposed big bang?
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No. No. That's not what I'm asking. I am asking how did it all start? Everything.
 
Reba said:
Do you believe there is absolute truth in anything scientific? Why is it called "the law of gravity" and not "the theory of gravity?" Doesn't physics have "laws"? So, there are truths in science; it isn't all theories.

Where did the "spontaneous" come from?
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Forewarning: This is *NOT my opinion*, just for reference and knowledge.

Some of the science community (cell biology) believes in cell evolution that eventually stemmed from the changes in the DNA complex. The correct term for it is called the Endosymbiotic theory. All cells were once minor life forms that thrived on the earth, perhaps of a photosynthetic lineage. Water and the sun is all that is necessary, the rest deals within photosynthesis, Stroma, wavelength tolerance from chlorophyll A/B and the whole lecture details / etc.

Since it was theorized that the mitochondria was not originally apart of a cell's structure, these cells adapted for the lack of the powerhouse by a form of phagocytosis which in theory shows the link between the cells without mitochondriae and the cells with, and this was the start of a cell being able to operate on it's own.

This is just one of the perspectives offered, there are diagrams and timelines available if you search the theory.
 
jillio said:
No more of the semantics game and the backpedaling. Science supports means that the theories can be reconciled.

Enlighten us, please. How does science support creationism? What theoretical points accomplish that? Which branch of science, exactly? And Christian Science doesn't count.
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Science supports Creationism. It's not semantics at all. If it supports Creation, then it can't support evolution since they are opposing models. They can't both be right.

The religion of Christian Science has nothing to do with Christians who are scientists. It's just the name of that religion. I'm surprised that you don't you know the difference.

There are Christians in all fields of science, just like anyone else. Scientists in the fields of geology and hydrology have shown that the earth is young, and didn't take millions of years to form, for example. If scientists show that the earth is young, how does that "reconcile" evolution? It doesn't. It's not semantics, it's logic.
 
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I present this picture of a nano-engine containing gears and drive shaft...how was this designed? What is it's purpose?
 
^ That's not a picture of a "nano-engine containing gears and drive shaft", that's an artist's rendering / depiction of how a cell's flagella works.
 
Oh, geez...

The "young earth" versus "old earth" thing again.

I am out guys. It's already bad enough mathematicians, paleontologists and geologists disagree with fundamentalist creationists.
 
souggy said:
Oh, geez...

The "young earth" versus "old earth" thing again.

I am out guys. It's already bad enough mathematicians, paleontologists and geologists disagree with fundamentalist creationists.
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Not all mathematicians, paleontologists, and geologists disagree with fundamentalist creationists. Some of them are creationists. :)
 
naisho said:
^ That's not a picture of a "nano-engine containing gears and drive shaft", that's an artist's rendering / depiction of how a cell's flagella works.
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I thought it was one of those fancy cakes you see on Food Network.
 
I am not denying they are creationists; I just haven't met one that believed in the literal interpretation of the Bible because the math didn't add up for them.
 
I should also point out that not all Creationists are Christians. Many Jews are also Creationists.
 
naisho said:
^ That's not a picture of a "nano-engine containing gears and drive shaft", that's an artist's rendering / depiction of how a cell's flagella works.
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It is indeed identified as a nano-engine. The biological kind, that is. Though it's a more simplified version but it is accurate in its depiction.
http://www.iris.ethz.ch/msrl/misc/2010-icra-workshop/pdf/martel_icra_wkshp_2010.pdf

Not the gear we think of but they are cellular gears...and rotating shaft...etc... just like what we would expect from a mechanical engine.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N09BIEzDlI&feature=related]YouTube - Bacterial Flagellum - Evolution's Nightmare & Demise[/ame]
 
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Jews, Muslims, Christians, Egyptians, I don't care.

I can't engage in the Young Earth theory without questioning mankind's written works.
 
kokonut said:
It is indeed identified as a nano-engine. The biological kind, that is. Though it's a more simplified version but it is accurate in its depiction.
http://www.iris.ethz.ch/msrl/misc/2010-icra-workshop/pdf/martel_icra_wkshp_2010.pdf

Not the gear we think of but they are cellular gears...and rotating shaft...etc... just like what we would expect from a mechanical engine.

YouTube - Bacterial Flagellum - Evolution's Nightmare & Demise
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Why do you have to overemphasize on the word flagella? I mean there's already one word for it. You just took it out and wrote the full definition, hopefully you weren't trying to confuse people.

Besides, flagellum are not measured in nanometers. They can be usually identified in micrometers (μm) with a flagella stain for most generic species.

It's like oversimplyfying it by calling a car "this is an object that is capable of movement consisting of a drivetrain, gears, transmission and a driveshaft"

I do know my cellular biology, thanks though.
 
souggy said:
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jews, muslims, christians, egyptians, i don't care.

I can't engage in the young earth theory without questioning mankind's written works.
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ok
 
kokonut said:
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I present this picture of a nano-engine containing gears and drive shaft...how was this designed? What is it's purpose?
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Geez, I saw this at a garage sale. It was a garden ornament I think.
 
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