Texas Board Passes Social Studies Curriculum

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Secretblend said:
Could be that man is not as smart as they like to think they are. I really don't see man doing much better today than they did in Roman times.
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Wow! You must live in a very, very isolated area!:eek3:
 
Jiro said:
I thought we get to have a choice to dismiss it?
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Like we have a choice of dismissing evolution theory?

They won't let intelligent design be taught but will teach evolution theory (in some cases as fact)
 
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Secretblend said:
That is whole point of intelligent design. Yet it is being dismissed!
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Again... look up "big bang theory" and "spontaneous evolution."

The big bang theory is that something started the universe as we know it. We don't know what caused it, but it happened. You can say it's God; that guy over there can say it's a giant supernova explosion; I can say that a raven puked something boiling hot.

Spontaneous evolution is the hypothesis that one species don't evolve in to another; they just "appear." This fit nicely into creationism too. That new species of fruitfly? It didn't evolve from another species, it just appeared. Why? That's why it's a "theory" or a hypothesis.
 
Secretblend said:
Like we have a choice of dismissing evolution theory?
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yes. precisely.

Secretblend said:
They won't let intelligent design be taught but will teach evolution theory (in some cases as fact)
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who is they? and how is it being taught as "fact" instead of theory? I'd like an example because I'm not understanding it.
 
jillio said:
Many scientists will disagree with that one. Are you saying scientists are all intellectually dishonest?
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First of all, you posted "people", not scientists.

Secondly, you're saing that "many scientists" will disagree.

Thirdly, how did "many" scientists become "all" scientists?

Evolution and creation are not reconcilable. It's not honest to say that they are. Some people try to compromise the two in order to make peace but it just doesn't work. Creation and evolution simply don't mix.


ID has virtually nothing to do with intellect. It is all about faith outside of intellect.
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Yet you say it can reconcile with evolution? How can it be both ways?
 
Reba said:
First of all, you posted "people", not scientists.

Secondly, you're saing that "many scientists" will disagree.

Thirdly, how did "many" scientists become "all" scientists?

Evolution and creation are not reconcilable. It's not honest to say that they are. Some people try to compromise the two in order to make peace but it just doesn't work. Creation and evolution simply don't mix.



Yet you say it can reconcile with evolution? How can it be both ways?
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Here you go with semantics again.:roll:

PEOPLE can reconcile the two.

SCIENTISTS can reconcile the two.

PEOPLE can also choose to run the other way and never take the time or the initiative to investigate the topic and see for themselves how the two can be reconciled.

The ways they can be reconciled and actually complement each other as co-existing theories are numerous. However, it requires more space than is permitted here to do a lesson on it, and a basic knowledge of particle physics to understand it.
 
You don't even need knowledge of particle physics to understand it.

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You just need to understand that Darwin wasn't the only authority on evolution.
 
souggy said:
You don't even need knowledge of particle physics to understand it.

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You just need to understand that Darwin wasn't the only authority on evolution.
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Quite true. But a basic knowledge of particle physics would allow a grasp of some of the finer points and enable one to discuss with some degree of validity.
 
jillio said:
Sure they can. However, those who are faith based in their explanations normally run for the hills at the first mention of the word "science". It is a shame that they don't open their minds enough to see that the two can be reconciled and actually complement each other as theories. I dunno...guess the faith based see scientific discovery and progress as some sort of a threat to their faith, so they choose to turn a blind eye and deaf ear.
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Not true. Just because the source of Creationism is the Bible doesn't mean it isn't supported by science. Many Christians are scientists, technicians, medical doctors, and engineers. They don't "run for the hills at the first mention of the word 'science." They thrive on science, experimentation, and exploration.

How can two opposing theories "complement" each other? Man can't be created in a one-time action and evolve over a long period from a lower form of animal at the same time.

It's a shame that more people don't open their minds enough to see the truth of Creation.
 
Reba said:
Not true. Just because the source of Creationism is the Bible doesn't mean it isn't supported by science. Many Christians are scientists, technicians, medical doctors, and engineers. They don't "run for the hills at the first mention of the word 'science." They thrive on science, experimentation, and exploration.

How can two opposing theories "complement" each other? Man can't be created in a one-time action and evolve over a long period from a lower form of animal at the same time.

It's a shame that more people don't open their minds enough to see the truth of Creation.
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Wait! Now you are saying that they can be reconciled. Make up your mind Reba.
 
Reba said:
Not true. Just because the source of Creationism is the Bible doesn't mean it isn't supported by science. Many Christians are scientists, technicians, medical doctors, and engineers. They don't "run for the hills at the first mention of the word 'science." They thrive on science, experimentation, and exploration.

How can two opposing theories "complement" each other? Man can't be created in a one-time action and evolve over a long period from a lower form of animal at the same time.

It's a shame that more people don't open their minds enough to see the truth of Creation.
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the other people would say same to religious people for not seeing the truth of science. Simple - you are free to choose to go to public school or Catholic school.
 
Reba said:
Not true. Just because the source of Creationism is the Bible doesn't mean it isn't supported by science. Many Christians are scientists, technicians, medical doctors, and engineers. They don't "run for the hills at the first mention of the word 'science." They thrive on science, experimentation, and exploration.

How can two opposing theories "complement" each other? Man can't be created in a one-time action and evolve over a long period from a lower form of animal at the same time.

It's a shame that more people don't open their minds enough to see the truth of Creation.
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Urrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh.

Why no one will listen to the spontaneous evolution suggestion?

It was a theory proposed in the 20th century by a Christian scientist who didn't believe in "missing links."
 
jillio said:
I've yet to know a teacher that teaches "evolutionary fact". The topic is still titled "evolutionary theory."

Those that do not believe in evolutionary theory are free not to listen to the lecture. Most of them don't listen to it anyway.:giggle:
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Even though the teachers call it theory, they present it as fact. They don't say, "maybe this is how evolution happened." They say, "this is what happened."
 
souggy said:
Again... look up "big bang theory" and "spontaneous evolution."

The big bang theory is that something started the universe as we know it. We don't know what caused it, but it happened. You can say it's God; that guy over there can say it's a giant supernova explosion; I can say that a raven puked something boiling hot.

Spontaneous evolution is the hypothesis that one species don't evolve in to another; they just "appear." This fit nicely into creationism too. That new species of fruitfly? It didn't evolve from another species, it just appeared. Why? That's why it's a "theory" or a hypothesis.
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How did everything start?
 
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