Study: 7.3 million in U.S. prison system in '07

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A record number of Americans served time in corrections systems across the country in 2007, according to a report released Monday by the Pew Center on the States.


Some of the nation's most high-profile federal inmates are housed at the Supermax prison in Colorado.

The U.S. correctional population -- those in jail, prison, on probation or on parole -- totaled 7.3 million, or 1 in every 31 adults.

The Pew Center on the States compiled the information from Justice Department and Census Bureau statistics.

America's prison population has skyrocketed over the past quarter century. In 1982, 1 in 77 adults were in the correctional system in one form or another, totaling 2.2 million people.

The United States has 5 percent of the world's population, but 25 percent of the world's prison inmates, the center said.

The numbers vary widely by race and gender.

"Black adults are four times as likely as whites and nearly 2.5 times as likely as Hispanics to be under correctional control. One in 11 black adults -- 9.2 percent -- was under correctional supervision at year-end 2007,
" the report said. "And although the number of female offenders continues to grow, men of all races are under correctional control at a rate five times that of women."

There are also wide differences depending on the state. Georgia tops the nation, with 1 in 13 adults in the state's corrections system, while in New Hampshire the figure is 1 in 88. Southern states tended to have higher rates, with Plains and rural Northeastern states coming in lower.

"State policy choices are responsible for creating this mess and state policy choices can get us out," said Adam Gelb, director of the Public Safety Performance Project for the Pew Center on the States. "There are two things, and two things only that determine the size and cost of the prison system."

Dealing out longer sentences and putting more people behind bars have been the hallmarks of Southern states, he said.

America's record prison population has had a huge budgetary effect, according to the report, with increased corrections spending outstripping everything at the state level except for Medicaid.

Gelb said prison costs 22 times more than community-based corrections.

"If you talk to judges and prosecutors practically anywhere in this country, they will tell you if they had stronger community corrections, they wouldn't have to send so many people [to prison] for so many low-level offenses," he said.

For California, it has meant overcrowded prisons. In February, federal judges tentatively ruled that California must reduce the number of inmates in its prison system by up to 40 percent to stop a constitutional violation of prisoners' rights.

Implementing the court's ruling would result in up to 58,000 prisoners being released, said Matthew Cate, California's corrections and rehabilitation secretary, describing it as a threat to public safety.

The Pew Center on the States, through its Public Safety Performance Project, says it promotes "fiscally sound, data-driven policies and practices in sentencing and corrections that protect public safety, hold offenders accountable, and control corrections costs."

Study: 7.3 million in U.S. prison system in '07 - CNN.com

Any thoughts on the bolded pertaining to the reasons why it is so?
 
That's very old data, where's the 2008 data.
 
This is a real proof that the justice system in America is NOT working!

Trust me, once we have boot camp and labor camp, we will be seeing a huge drop in crime activity. What I learn while serving jury duty, that many crooks don't mind spend their time in prison because there is nothing to do there but sit and do nothing. No work, no nothing, no rent, no payment for food, all for free just do nothing.

On other hand, if one had to go though boot camp, they will more likely increase respect to the society, and less likely re-comit the crime, same with labor camp, no one wants hellish work, so if one knew they do crime they will do hellish labor, forget it. Resulting reducing in crime activity.
 
This is a real proof that the justice system in America is NOT working!

Trust me, once we have boot camp and labor camp, we will be seeing a huge drop in crime activity. What I learn while serving jury duty, that many crooks don't mind spend their time in prison because there is nothing to do there but sit and do nothing. No work, no nothing, no rent, no payment for food, all for free just do nothing.

On other hand, if one had to go though boot camp, they will more likely increase respect to the society, and less likely re-comit the crime, same with labor camp, no one wants hellish work, so if one knew they do crime they will do hellish labor, forget it. Resulting reducing in crime activity.


I wholeheartly agree with you. I think it will teach them a lesson with all the hard labor and boot camp thing, will scare the hell out of their minds!
 
The prison system is a failure, really. Consider that a large majority of prisoners are undereducated overinstitutionalized, many serving sentences for drug possession..what happens when these men are parolled and turned back to the streets from whence they came? The combination of being returned to their former stomping grounds and lack of job skills ultimately means that sooner or later, they will end up back in prison. It's a nasty cycle. Where's the rehabilitation? :scratch:
 
That's very old data, where's the 2008 data.

We are only 60 days into 2009. 2008 data has not been compiled yet. Compilation of the data is a long process, with each state having to report stats at the end of the year, then the data being compiled and run, and reported. You have to reach the end of the year before data can be collected for that year.
 
The prison system is a failure, really. Consider that a large majority of prisoners are undereducated overinstitutionalized, many serving sentences for drug possession..what happens when these men are parolled and turned back to the streets from whence they came? The combination of being returned to their former stomping grounds and lack of job skills ultimately means that sooner or later, they will end up back in prison. It's a nasty cycle. Where's the rehabilitation? :scratch:

Agreed. Not only is there the problem of a system that is supposed to be based on rehabilitation, but isn't, there are the societal problems of inequitable justice based on socio-economic status and race.
 
The prison system is a failure, really. Consider that a large majority of prisoners are undereducated overinstitutionalized, many serving sentences for drug possession..what happens when these men are parolled and turned back to the streets from whence they came? The combination of being returned to their former stomping grounds and lack of job skills ultimately means that sooner or later, they will end up back in prison. It's a nasty cycle. Where's the rehabilitation? :scratch:

I'm totally agree with you on this...

They should send drug and alochol addicts to rehabiliation instead of jail. They will NEVER learn anything positive in jail...

And I disagree for send many low-level offenses to jail which is a waste... they should pay out of their own pocket... PENALTY FINE instead of rely on taxpayers...
 
I'm totally agree with you on this...

They should send drug and alochol addicts to rehabiliation instead of jail. They will NEVER learn anything positive in jail...

And I disagree for send many low-level offenses to jail which is a waste... they should pay out of their own pocket... PENALTY FINE instead of rely on taxpayers...

I agree 100% with you.
 
Well, it may not be that old. I'm sure all states can report it quickly....count them up and report it by the due date and they'll get the numbers. How do they quickly count the ballots for voting a president in only a week? That's my point. :) I think they need to fix that system for prision issues, that's too many people and a waste of tax payer money, too.
 
Well, it may not be that old. I'm sure all states can report it quickly....count them up and report it by the due date and they'll get the numbers. How do they quickly count the ballots for voting a president in only a week? That's my point. :) I think they need to fix that system for prision issues, that's too many people and a waste of tax payer money, too.

understandable but Jillio's post explained it quite succinctly. Thing is - the election ballot is "standardized" across the states. All 50 states have names of Presidential/VP candidates and all you have to do is pick your choice. simple. just count'em and report it. that's it.

As for compiling statistic among 50 states.... it's a headache because each 50 state has its own parameter/specification. For example (just making it up) - one state considered "hitting a person in any way" a felony while other state considered it as a misdemeanor. There is a federal guideline but it's still a headache. Go to DOJ/FBI/NYC site and download its statistic files. You'll see why.

One can argue that the reason for those confusing & different specifications for crime statistic is for political reason. For example - when running for Mayor/Governor/Senator/etc - typically for re-election... they would like to brag about their "low" crime statistic to make their ass shine brighter. :)
 
Where is rehabilation? Yeah, there is two kinds of places called Boot camp and labor camp.

Because of political and ACLUA whose thinks boot camp and labor camp is abusive and excessive and considered cruel and unusual punishment.... Yeah right! Sitting in jail do nothing for too long is worse than hard labor or boot camp where they won't cause obesity, a serious health hazard from sitting and do nothing for too long!

Isn't it time for serious penal code reform?

The prison system is a failure, really. Consider that a large majority of prisoners are undereducated overinstitutionalized, many serving sentences for drug possession..what happens when these men are parolled and turned back to the streets from whence they came? The combination of being returned to their former stomping grounds and lack of job skills ultimately means that sooner or later, they will end up back in prison. It's a nasty cycle. Where's the rehabilitation? :scratch:
 
Well, it may not be that old. I'm sure all states can report it quickly....count them up and report it by the due date and they'll get the numbers. How do they quickly count the ballots for voting a president in only a week? That's my point. :) I think they need to fix that system for prision issues, that's too many people and a waste of tax payer money, too.

Because reporting is not as simple as just counting people and reporting those numbers. The reports required detailed information.
 
Where is rehabilation? Yeah, there is two kinds of places called Boot camp and labor camp.

Because of political and ACLUA whose thinks boot camp and labor camp is abusive and excessive and considered cruel and unusual punishment.... Yeah right! Sitting in jail do nothing for too long is worse than hard labor or boot camp where they won't cause obesity, a serious health hazard from sitting and do nothing for too long!

Isn't it time for serious penal code reform?

Boot camp and labor camp are not considered rehabilitative. They are punitive.
 
Agreed. Not only is there the problem of a system that is supposed to be based on rehabilitation, but isn't, there are the societal problems of inequitable justice based on socio-economic status and race.

How about the inequity of income and standard of living causes more crime to be committed by the groups who are most incarcerated.

Raise their standards of living and they will commit less crime.
 
break the law, you go to jail. black-on-black crimes is very high in mnay communities. a cultural thing, go to jail and get 3 meals a day. plus some prisons have work programs inside for free.
 
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