starrygaze
Active Member
- Joined
- Sep 27, 2005
- Messages
- 2,328
- Reaction score
- 3
VamPyroX said:Hooray! Now, I can drive faster! Faster is better!
Drive carefully! Speeding can cost the lives. Wear the safety belt!
VamPyroX said:Hooray! Now, I can drive faster! Faster is better!
Interstate only:Drive carefully! Speeding can cost the lives. Wear the safety belt!
Raising speed limits also means the consumption of more gasoline.
Yes, I agree. To help conserve gas, we need to REDUCE the speed limit and impose stricter fines for speeding. If it was taken more seriously by the law enforcement, it would be taken more seriously by motorists.
Yes but now people will now go 85 mph instead of 80. Raising the speed limit isn't always the best solution. Maybe doubling the fines for every 5 mph over the limit might help. Word gets around fast about 'ridiculous' speeding tickets on FB. People will learn to slow down to avoid these tickets.
Yes but now people will now go 85 mph instead of 80. Raising the speed limit isn't always the best solution. Maybe doubling the fines for every 5 mph over the limit might help. Word gets around fast about 'ridiculous' speeding tickets on FB. People will learn to slow down to avoid these tickets.
"The Utah Department of Transportation (UDOT)," began an article in TheNewspaper.com, "announced last week that the experimental increase in the state's maximum speed limit to 80 MPH has been a success in terms of safety. UDOT Deputy Director Carlos Braceras testified before the state Interim Committee on Transportation that that there has been no increase in accidents as a result of the higher number printed on the speed limit signs on certain stretches of Interstate 15."
The UDOT measured the speed of that 85th percentile before and after raising the limit. When the maximum allowable speed was 75 mph, it reported most drivers doing between 81 and 85 mph. Given another five miles an hour to legally play with, a year of observation found that most drivers doing between 83 and 85 mph. The vehicular carnage that some suspected didn't materialize, nor did drivers automatically begin driving 90 or 95 mph. As was the case before the limit was raised, people liked going about 85 on the stretches of road in question. They probably also enjoyed not getting tickets for it.
Without taking sides, Utah's findings do match recent findings and decisions in other states. When the North Texas Tollway Authority (NTTA) studied speed limits on six sections of roads it maintains, it changed the speed limits on five of them: one saw a decrease of 5 mph, the other four were increased from 5 to 10 mph.
When Montana had no daytime speed limit, fatalities not only went down but Montana recorded the state's fewest road fatalities during that period. Internationally, the number of fatalities per billion vehicle kilometers has been higher in the U.S. for about the past seven years than anywhere in Western Europe except for Ireland. Even Germany and its unrestricted autobahn suffer fewer injury incidents than the U.S.
in short - it's best left to drivers to make judgment with common sense to drive safely. It's already proven that less laws & enforcement equates less crimes/accidents.This is an obvious call to action. Something must be done. We need more laws, more money for enforcement and more citations written - Speed Kills!
Not so fast says a follow up study just completed by National Motorists Association. The study shows the safest period on Montana’s Interstate highways was when there were no daytime speed limits or enforceable speed laws.
The doubling of fatal accidents occurred after Montana implemented its new safety program; complete with federal funding, artificially low speed limits and full enforcement.
The objectives of this research was to determine the effects of raising and lowering posted speed limits on driver behavior and accidents for non-limited access rural and urban highways. Speed and accident data were collected in 22 States at 100 sites before and after speed limits were altered. Before and after data were also collected simultaneously at comparison sites where speed limits were not changed to control for the time trends. Repeated measurements were made at 14 sites to examine short - and long-term effects of speed limit changes.
The results of the study indicated that lowering posted speed limits by as much as 20 mi/h (32 km/h), or raising speed limits by as much as 15 mi/h (24 km/h) had little effect on motorist' speed. The majority of motorist did not drive 5 mi/h (8 km/h) above the posted speed limits when speed limits were raised, nor did they reduce their speed by 5 or 10 mi/h (8 or 16 km/h) when speed limits are lowered. Data collected at the study sites indicated that the majority of speed limits are posed below the average speed of traffic. Lowering speed limits below the 50th percentile does not reduce accidents, but does significantly increase driver violations of the speed limit. Conversely, raising the posted speed limits did not increase speeds or accidents.
High speed limit = dangerous? Not at all. It has been repeatedly proven false. The studies have already shown that decreasing speed limit does not decrease accidents nor speed.
Utah: Increasing Speed Limits Doesn't Kill
ANOTHER source - http://www.motorists.org/press/montana-no-speed-limit-safety-paradox
in short - it's best left to drivers to make judgment with common sense to drive safely. It's already proven that less laws & enforcement equates less crimes/accidents.
Don't believe it? simply take a look at 4-ways intersection with traffic light. Compare that to intersection with roundabout in terms of safety and accident rates.
My insurance agent told me the reason rates are high because speeds are high. The damage from higher speeds is greater and the injuries are worse.
High speed limit = dangerous? Not at all. It has been repeatedly proven false. The studies have already shown that decreasing speed limit does not decrease accidents nor speed.
Utah: Increasing Speed Limits Doesn't Kill
ANOTHER source - Montana: No Speed Limit Safety Paradox
in short - it's best left to drivers to make judgment with common sense to drive safely. It's already proven that less laws & enforcement equates less crimes/accidents.
Don't believe it? simply take a look at 4-ways intersection with traffic light. Compare that to intersection with roundabout in terms of safety and accident rates.
West Virginia? I'm talking about the USA in general.I would say that is false because if that's the case, then majority of people can't afford cars in West Virginia because the local speed limit in suburb/rural area is 55mph and people regularly drive at 65+. The insurance company doesn't have to worry about "injury" when it comes to high-speed accident.... because it will result in fatality. Fatality's cheaper than injury anyway. a lot cheaper.
the math of insurance premium rate is really based on number & frequency of accidents in your area, the cost involved, and other variables such as type of car you have, your age, record, etc.
my motorcycle insurance rate was just about $200 per year in NJ while just a river across... NYC rate was about $1,500 per year (if I remember correctly).
Yes, I remember that. It really made me uncomfortable with how people would interpret "reasonable and prudent."you know that Montana's Reasonable and prudent was back in Dec 1995 until June 1999
INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS:
AUTOS --- Reasonable and prudent during day time --- 65 mph at night
TRUCKS --- 65 MPH -- 24hours 365 days
OTHER HIGHWAYS:
AUTOS: Reasonable and prudent during day time -- NIGHT 55 MPH
TRUCKS: 55 mph 24 hours 365
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Federal threatens to stop funding for construction, Montana Governor decide set speed limit to Interstate highway for 75 mph for Autos and Semi-Truck is 65 mph for 24 hours/ 7days 365 days
other highways 70mph daytime and night 65 mph
Since 1999 to Present
West Virginia case pretty much applies to dozen other states.West Virginia? I'm talking about the USA in general.
what happens to you? most of time - nothing. tough luck to victim's family. litigation is done by your insurance, not you. if the driver or his family is suing you, they are suing your insurance company, not you. Your insurance will pay them the settlement. that's why it's good idea to cough up $$$ for a good insurance coverage. I know that sounds like a cold-hearted advice but.... shit happens...About fatalities being cheaper--if an insured driver kills someone who happens to be the main source for a family's income, what happens then?
lesson of life? being too honest is expensive.Years ago, I was living in Auburn, Washington, which is part of the Seattle metro area. Lots of traffic and freeways and so forth. I don't remember what my premiums were. Then I moved (temporarily) to my parents house in a rural area in Montana. I figured my premiums would go down significantly because there was hardly any traffic compared to Auburn. Less risk, right? But my premiums actually increased a little bit. I asked about that and they cited higher speeds and longer distances driven as two factors. My driving record didn't change, nor did my vehicle.
If you are the cause of a fatality, you'd probably be dropped by your insurance company. It might be hard to get new insurance too, depending on the legal repercussions (if any).
When I found out they would actually raise premiums, I said forget it, it was temporary. I have paid a lot in premiums and have had very few claims. Not interested in giving them more of my money.