Shooting with casualties at Washington Navy Yard

oh great.... Times Square shooting and now this...
 
I know for a fact that several Gallaudet alumni are working there. I pray they are okay.
 
I still do not understand why they don't .. at least ... allow Officers to carry.
 
Steinhauer said:
That may be why he hasn't given any updates.

I hope they are ok.
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Six people are dead and there could be two more shooters on the run. I would like to know how the HELL did 1-3 armed men get into the Navy Yard? Don't they have to use or show any kind of ID card before being allowed in the building? This does not look good to me that a mass shooting can happen that easy in a Navy Yard in Washington.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
Six people are dead and there could be two more shooters on the run. I would like to know how the HELL did 1-3 armed men get into the Navy Yard? Don't they have to use or show any kind of ID card before being allowed in the building? This does not look good to me that a mass shooting can happen that easy in a Navy Yard in Washington.
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Yes, there is security on the base perimeter, checkpoints at the entrances, and usually within the base at various entry points at gates and inside buildings. However, if someone has proper credentials to get thru the gate with a vehicle, they could carry in an arsenal. Some bases regularly check the interiors of vehicles, some do it only randomly. Then, once thru the outside checkpoints, a shooter can grab the gun and make a running blast thru the doors of a building. Entrance scanners and metal detectors only detect weapons--they don't stop them.
 
Reba said:
Yes, there is security on the base perimeter, checkpoints at the entrances, and usually within the base at various entry points at gates and inside buildings. However, if someone has proper credentials to get thru the gate with a vehicle, they could carry in an arsenal. Some bases regularly check the interiors of vehicles, some do it only randomly. Then, once thru the outside checkpoints, a shooter can grab the gun and make a running blast thru the doors of a building. Entrance scanners and metal detectors only detect weapons--they don't stop them.
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You would think with all the mass shooting there been and a trial for a person that killed peoples on a military base that there would be sticker security at all our military bases. Something needs to be done we just can't keep allowing mass shooters to gun down innocent people .
 
diehardbiker said:
Yup, I agreed with that one. The more gun free zones, the more shoot outs going to happen.
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((sarcasm on))

This is all a made up story. There is no way gun violence can happen in DC. DC has the most strictest gun control laws in the nation, there is no possible way gun violence can happen there.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
You would think with all the mass shooting there been and a trial for a person that killed peoples on a military base that there would be sticker security at all our military bases. Something needs to be done we just can't keep allowing mass shooters to gun down innocent people .
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They have the ability to do searches at gates. The problem is the inconvenience and impracticality. During morning rush hour to work at the bases would require people sitting in long lines for hours every day to get properly searched. Traffic would back up into the city streets.

A proper search includes looking at and sometimes scanning each person's ID card, checking the vehicle registration, visually searching the entire passenger compartment and trunk, searching with sniffer dogs, and using a mirror to check the undercarriage of the vehicle, and questioning the driver.

Physical security at gates include labyrinth entrance lanes, armed guards, and pop-up road barriers.

Physical security of buildings include barriers to prevent vehicles from crashing into them, locked access doors, and armed guards.
 
This is perfect method of advertisement that the zone is a gun free zone giving shooters perfect opportunity to screw somebody else and run.

If there is no gun free zone, the shooters will be likely unable to find opportunity to commit and run.

It does ponder me on wondering why Americans have not notice the history on prohibitions. We had alcohol prohibition and the problems only gets worse until they dropped the ban. Also with drug prohibition going on, more and more new dangerously designer drugs getting widely available sending suckers to emergency room with their potential final destination at graveyard. When one decided to prohibit guns, there will be more negative consequences going to happen regardless.

I believe the only way to relieve these kind of problem is, expect it to happen again regardless, and allow truly law abiding citizen CCW. Once there is enough CCW law abide citizen exists, these cowards aren't going to risk their lives.

I personally feel more safer around people who have guns than being around nobody that got gun.


Reba said:
They have the ability to do searches at gates. The problem is the inconvenience and impracticality. During morning rush hour to work at the bases would require people sitting in long lines for hours every day to get properly searched. Traffic would back up into the city streets.

A proper search includes looking at and sometimes scanning each person's ID card, checking the vehicle registration, visually searching the entire passenger compartment and trunk, searching with sniffer dogs, and using a mirror to check the undercarriage of the vehicle, and questioning the driver.

Physical security at gates include labyrinth entrance lanes, armed guards, and pop-up road barriers.

Physical security of buildings include barriers to prevent vehicles from crashing into them, locked access doors, and armed guards.
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