Wow I feel much better now... Thanks DoVip.DoVip said:ROFLMAO! No, I'm not 10. because it was joke a long time ago. Actually, I'm 19 years old. Alright, I will change my profile for birthday. Lol
No problem. lol. I saw your profile. You are older than me. Hehe.C.C.Sinned said:Wow I feel much better now... Thanks DoVip.
BabyPhat21 said:do you have sex on first date? I think the relationship is doomed when that happens....
I know a lot, lot and lot of people regret having sex right after marriage when they found out that they were insatisfied with their sex, lovemaking and romantic skills. It is quite lot of them who weren't satifsfied with their ex-husbands/ex-wives.Brian said:The best way is to wait until you are married. I know a lot of people regret having sex before marriage.
DoVip said:I haven't sex...for i'm single.
Magatsu said:I know a lot, lot and lot of people regret having sex right after marriage when they found out that they were insatisfied with their sex, lovemaking and romantic skills. It is quite lot of them who weren't satifsfied with their ex-husbands/ex-wives.
Actually, mostly 'fault' lies in men, most of men refuse to adapt or learn the new 'techniques' to satisfy women and their needs. They often expect women to put up with their lousy techniques which often leads to unhappy married couples and end up divorced/separated (men's and women's satisfactions & needs are completely different). It happens many, many and many times
disabilitywatch said:
uh?...why on the earth are you misreading or jumping to the conclusion about my comments? I reread my post recently and I haven't seen anywhere 'main cause of divorce' in my post. It appears that I have to repeat myself to make it clear: I was saying that I know lot and lot of people who divorced or are unhappy married couples because of not 'met' their needs or requirements in sex, lovemaking or romantic activities after marriage. Note: I didn't say all or 'main', I was saying 'lot and lot'. What more is that my aunt is a certified family therapist (she is hearing), she had consulted with many, many married/divorced couples for 29 years. She shared with me that she noticed the pattern in unhappy married couples/divorced couples: lack of lovemaking techniques or men aren't willing to please women. My friends (women) also often vented/expressed their frustrations at me about their lovers/ex-lovers. That's how I know. I learned by listening. These are the hard facts. My aunt also mentioned to me once that she noticed that numbers of complaints from women about men's lack of lovemaking techniques get increased every year. She also had to explain to men again and again in many sessions that men need to please women to make them feel good. She mentioned about one client, a man who was 55 years old, he still don't learn or even understand what women really need (note: he had four ex-wives).DeafVeggie said:Huh? Are you trying to tell me that the main cause of divorce because of this???? I think not.
Listen, Magatsu. I have been reading all of this topic threads and I recognized two groups:
1) "...regret having sex right after marriage".
2) "...regret having sex before marriage".
So, which side are you regretting for?
Anyway, my response is:
#2 is worse in pain for....women. I know by facts because they wish to stay virgin to give to the adorable gentleman and lifelong companionship in the world for his prized reward on the first sex night of their honeymoon.
#1 is part of marriage learning curve! They can always learn and improve the sexual relationship during the course of marriage. That's what a marriage is all about it - to learn one another and develop together.
*sigh* I didn't say that all of the fault lies in men. I was saying "mostly" as in "mostly". That's where I got the information from my aunt. There were many times that women tried to do with men and men are the ones who just humped them until ejaculate without any kind of techniques while women don't have the opportunity to experience their orgasms. Many men don't even try or even bother to 'please' their lovers. For women, they are not 'doll' to to feel the pleasure when men just 'humped' them without the techniques. Women need men to perform the certain techniques to please them instead of just 'fuck' them and walk away. Defend men all the you want but I personally know because of women who shared their frustrations with me included aunt (no sir, I am not a mr. know nor claim that I am but I know enough about this situation). I said in my previous post, men's and women's requirements and needs are completely different (just... ask women). Many men haven't pay any attention to women's needs.DeafVeggie said:Putting the fault on men?? No. Women, too. It takes two to create a hot steamy sex scene. If a man is a hot stud and did the foreplay excerising while the woman just spreads her legs and did nothing like a toy doll, then their sex activity is dud. Both of the man and woman must do the variety of motion techniques and do the sexual fanasties. They could watch some X-rated movies to learn the "art of skills" and garden-variety tips, not just sit to *drool* at the movies.
~DV
Emerica said:Dude, you're weak and suffering. Great sex is great, but bad sex is like a peanut better and jelly sandwish!
In many cases, #1 is worser in pain for... women. I know by facts because many of women divorced from 'adorable' gentlemen when they found out that they aren't exactly adorable. Many men changed into 'meanie' or 'cruel' right after marriages or even after first child or more than just one child. In the end, they may or may not lose many valuable things when they divorced... plus they may or may not have to deal with certain courts and they have to deal with child(ren) who will be suffer for a while or long time right after their fathers changed into 'meanie' or 'cruel'. Men can be very good at hiding their real 'faces'. My dad was one of them.DeafVeggie said:#2 is worse in pain for....women. I know by facts because they wish to stay virgin to give to the adorable gentleman and lifelong companionship in the world for his prized reward on the first sex night of their honeymoon.
DoVip said:
Magatsu said:These are the hard facts. My aunt also mentioned to me once that she noticed that numbers of complaints from women about men's lack of lovemaking techniques get increased every year. She also had to explain to men again and again in many sessions that men need to please women to make them feel good. She mentioned about one client, a man who was 55 years old, he still don't learn or even understand what women really need (note: he had four ex-wives).
And what is more that I am sure that you already know that men tend to have hard time to adapt, change or learn the techniques, lessons, habits, etc etc... Yes, that is part of marriage learning curve but as long as men or women or both are willing to work out with their lovers. Again, not many men who are willing. I can use the many examples but that will derail this topic completely. And I am a man so I know about these. I finally made a breakthrough and re-educate myself to accept, to adapt, to learn or to change. It is well-known fact that men have difficult to accept the criticisms from women about their techniques, women's needs, etc... It is not right thing to have women to put up with their lovers and their issues for years, years and years. *sigh* Men really need to learn to think of women and their needs beside themselves sometimes... Your another response:
*sigh* I didn't say that all of the fault lies in men. I was saying "mostly" as in "mostly". That's where I got the information from my aunt. There were many times that women tried to do with men and men are the ones who just humped them until ejaculate without any kind of techniques while women don't have the opportunity to experience their orgasms. Many men don't even try or even bother to 'please' their lovers . For women, they are not 'doll' to to feel the pleasure when men just 'humped' them without the techniques. Women need men to perform the certain techniques to please them instead of just 'fuck' them and walk away.
DeafVeggie said:Magatsu, thank you for sharing your views, dude.
Where you live was what you have learned from your local female peers. Where I live was what I have learned from my local female peers. Yes, they vented out their expressions and complains about men. I, too, like you, a good listener. What's their primary complains? Not only about sex. It's lack of general common skills such as how to fix leaky pipes, reading/writing important letters, folly spending money, etc. Even some married females came to me, too. Their complains? Their husbands don't help their elementary kids with homeworks. It was due to their husbands' intellectual level.
Your posting mentioned that gentlemen who have good hiding face masks were bit scary, That put ladies on the "innocent" spot. Trust is always critical, but gentlemen (and ladies, too) gotta to be more honest themselves. After the marriage, it can be real decieving and surprising. I know few of my friends who went through this (married 2, 3, or 4 times) and said had enough with those craps so they ended up living with same sex partners and have been ever happily since then.
The more you know about the person, the better you will know who the person is. Yes, it takes awhile in time and patience to know if you feel in the "comfortable zone" with the person. Yes, it is hard to find the right mate so you have to keep looking until it happens. Same with jobs. It's hard to find the right job so you have to keep looking for one until it happens.
What I perceived from one of your postings: "lot and lot". That's an equivalent of "main. Sorry if I jumped the gun.
Magatsu, you did a good job of posting!
~DV
I can see that. I mean, my posts does sound like I am trying to make women innocent in this case. I reread my posts and I understand your point. But actually, I am not trying to make them more 'innocent' in this case. Just state the facts as much as you did about this issue though. However, I completely agree with you. To make the marriage workable require both men and women to work together or it will fall apart. Sorry if I sound like a asshole in my posts. You have your own points that I may or may not agree with you, I am sure that is same case for me. btw, your posts rock. I like the way you use your logics in these situation.DeafVeggie said:Magatsu, thank you for sharing your views, dude.
Where you live was what you have learned from your local female peers. Where I live was what I have learned from my local female peers. Yes, they vented out their expressions and complains about men. I, too, like you, a good listener. What's their primary complains? Not only about sex. It's lack of general common skills such as how to fix leaky pipes, reading/writing important letters, folly spending money, etc. Even some married females came to me, too. Their complains? Their husbands don't help their elementary kids with homeworks. It was due to their husbands' intellectual level.
Your posting mentioned that gentlemen who have good hiding face masks were bit scary, That put ladies on the "innocent" spot. Trust is always critical, but gentlemen (and ladies, too) gotta to be more honest themselves. After the marriage, it can be real decieving and surprising. I know few of my friends who went through this (married 2, 3, or 4 times) and said had enough with those craps so they ended up living with same sex partners and have been ever happily since then.
The more you know about the person, the better you will know who the person is. Yes, it takes awhile in time and patience to know if you feel in the "comfortable zone" with the person. Yes, it is hard to find the right mate so you have to keep looking until it happens. Same with jobs. It's hard to find the right job so you have to keep looking for one until it happens.
What I perceived from one of your postings: "lot and lot". That's an equivalent of "main. Sorry if I jumped the gun.
Magatsu, you did a good job of posting!
~DV
FeistyChick said:don't listen to him.. you are still young!!! i lost my virginity at a late age too