S.D. banned Abortion.

jazzy said:
One more thing here, why should we put women and young girls to jail if they did unlawful abortion while some idiot men go out and freely do have sex with women and young girls over again and again? They dont get to throw in jail for doing adultery.

This world is not God but evil, why must we suffer the evil of others and make us to do it against our will because of what others did to us our women's body and must we force to keep the unborn child against our will? Not freedom we are experincing in man's world esp if they don't practice what God want them to do? Where was God when a young girl being raped and forced her to carry 9 months because of the SD law and esp in christian's view, the unborn babies are innconent and not the young girls. She should have a free will of choice to keep carry or abort it.


Yes I second that.

That´s why I said in my previous post that I don´t think the law for ban abortion is not good idea because it would not solve anything but worst.

It´s unfair for women.

I respect women´s decision but one thing I against to abort baby dozen of times for no reason since they know there´re sex protection.
 
MorriganTait said:
Since someone saw fit to start in on the physical "consequences" of abortion, I thought it only fair to list the physical "consequences" of pregnancy.
You do raise an excellent point. Admittedly, I 'glossed' over your reply as both replies were too lengthy for my liking. Forgive me? :)

It does dovetails nicely with my rationale that a pregnancy is purely a medical issue that requires the woman to access competent and impartial medical care. (Yes, I am well aware that women have had successful pregnancies w/o any semblance of medical care in the world all over.) This is regardless of whether the woman wants to carry the pregnancy to a full term or abort it prematurely.

This is where as I've said before, I am extremely reluctant of supporting legislation that intrudes into the doctor/patient sphere of decision-making, especially when it concerns intensely private matters.

Rather, I would encourage prevention measures that prevent unwanted and unplanned pregnancies in the first place. This is where the communities can get the most bang for their legislative dollars in targeting the abortion issue.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I thought we are here to talk about abortion?... I think we should discuss about unborn fetus... , not after born.
You are evading the question.

severe handiciapped babies? Would you keep them and take care of them rest of your life? It´s not fair for severe handciapped babies...
YOU stated, "handicapped babies". If it is OK to kill a handicapped baby inside the womb, then it should be equally OK to kill a handicapped baby outside the womb, right? The baby is the same handicapped baby, inside the mother or outside.
 
jazzy said:
One more thing here, why should we put women and young girls to jail if they did unlawful abortion while some idiot men go out and freely do have sex with women and young girls over again and again? They dont get to throw in jail for doing adultery.
I don't know the details of the SD law but in the past when abortion was illegal except for saving the life of the mother, it was the doctor or the person performing the abortion that was arrested, not the mother.

... the unborn babies are innconent ....
Do you believe the unborn babies are innocent or guilty?
 
Reba said:
You are evading the question.


YOU stated, "handicapped babies". If it is OK to kill a handicapped baby inside the womb, then it should be equally OK to kill a handicapped baby outside the womb, right? The baby is the same handicapped baby, inside the mother or outside.


Sorry I didn´t make clear in my previous post...

What I stated in my previous post mean is: Abortion issue...

I would not keep unborn baby if I learn that I had severe handciapped baby inside me because it´s unfair for them to suffer all of their life...

After born... I don´t mind to keep handicapped baby EXCEPT severe brain damage because it´s unfair for them to suffer rest of their life. All what I want to save their suffer. IMO.


It has nothing do with "kill"... I beleive it´s women´s decision because it´s their body what they wants... , not government.
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
Why would anybody fired her, that would be a discrimination for firing a pregnant woman? Could she get unemployment check, food stamp, and WIC?


Children do not deserve to have kind of life what they have from their parents who struggled with social assistance...
 
Liebling:-))) said:
...After born... I don´t mind to keep handicapped baby EXCEPT severe brain damage because it´s unfair for them to suffer rest of their life. All what I want to save their suffer. IMO.
Ummm...so if your baby was born with severe brain damage, what would you do with it?


It has nothing do with "kill"....
What do you think the abortion process is? What happens to the baby during an abortion?
 
Eyeth said:
This is where as I've said before, I am extremely reluctant of supporting legislation that intrudes into the doctor/patient sphere of decision-making, especially when it concerns intensely private matters.

Rather, I would encourage prevention measures that prevent unwanted and unplanned pregnancies in the first place. This is where the communities can get the most bang for their legislative dollars in targeting the abortion issue.

I agree. I still see so much misinformation or lack of information about contraception and woman's health in general. It's shameful if you ask me.

The lengthy post was a specific resonse to another lengthy post.
 
Reba said:
Ummm...so if your baby was born with severe brain damage, what would you do with it?

Like what I said before that I would not keep severe brain damage baby. I would put them to handciapped home or give up for adoption.

What do you think the abortion process is? What happens to the baby during an abortion?

Well, the woman have good reason for not want to be pregnant.

Health
abnormal develop fetus
by Rapist
Not ready to be parent (I would suggest them to give baby for an adoption but some have good points that they don't want to carry up to 9 months and then give baby away... it's heartbreak issue)... I respect their decision.

I support and respect women's decision, not government.

Ban abortion do not solve anything but worst and more illegal... It was happened in Germany before they change the law to support women's decision up to 12 weeks. Public Health Insurance only cover the abortion cost for good reasons.
 
Liebling, you still haven't answered this question:

What do you think the abortion process is? What happens to the baby during an abortion?
 
Reba said:
Liebling, you still haven't answered this question:


I thought I give you answer what you want to hear from me... It look that it's not right answer, I give you. It could be that I misunderstand your post... Can you please to give me example for me to see the point, you want to question me...?
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I thought I give you answer what you want to hear from me... It look that it's not right answer, I give you. It could be that I misunderstand your post... Can you please to give me example for me to see the point, you want to question me...?
OK.

During an abortion, do you know what happens to the baby? What exactly is the medical procedure that destroys the baby's life and body?

If you don't know, I can give you links, including pictures and videos. It's awful, and I know you are a sensitive person but if you really don't know what happens, maybe it is time to learn.
 
Teresh said:
Yeah, and where are all these babies going to go? Who is going to adopt them?
These babies will go to women and men who cannot make babies of their own.
 
Reba said:
During an abortion, do you know what happens to the baby? What exactly is the medical procedure that destroys the baby's life and body?

Without getting overly graphic, the most common procedure performed in the first trimester is called vacuum aspiration.

Essentially, a small suction canula is used to remove the endometrial lining, fetal and placental tissue from the uterus. At this point, the entire volume of material, including fetal tissue, is quite minimal.

That said, if we continue to try to reframe the debate in terms of "how awful the procedure is", you miss the issue entirely.

Either, you believe that fetal life is somehow sacred (or more sacred than a woman's right to choose) or you don't. The procedure itself should not enter into the debate - I think it's a tactic by right-to-life groups to shock and disgust people and reframe the issue into something it is not.
 
ButterflyGirl said:
These babies will go to women and men who cannot make babies of their own.

Yeah, that is right.



And I wish women stop having sex... they can control themselves.
 

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The*Empress said:
And I wish women stop having sex... they can control themselves.

Better ask the men to use some self-control, too...

Anyway, is it me or is there not enough attention or funding to adoption and foster programs??
 
The*Empress said:
Yeah, that is right.



And I wish women stop having sex... they can control themselves.

Certainly some people (both men and women) can control themselves and not have sex for extended periods of time, just like some people can become rocket scientists.

What about the rest?
 
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