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Runner reported to have internal male sex organs - Olympics - Yahoo! Sports
By CELEAN JACOBSON, Associated Press Writer
42 minutes ago

PRETORIA, South Africa (AP)—Caster Semenya had heard the taunts and whispers— that she was different from other girls. Now the most intimate details of her anatomy are headline news, and there is worry about how the 18-year-old runner from a poor South African village will handle it all.

Two Australian newspapers reported Friday that gender tests show the world champion athlete has no ovaries or uterus and internal testes that produce large amounts of testosterone. The international sports federation that ordered the tests wouldn’t confirm the reports.

The International Association of Athletics Federations, which ordered the gender tests, refused to confirm or deny the reports. In a statement, the IAAF said it is reviewing the test results and will issue a final decision in November.

South African Sports Minister Makhenkesi Stofile expressed horror at the handling of the affair and insisted Caster is female.

“We think her human rights have been violated and her privacy invaded,” Stofile said, adding that Semenya should be given legal advice and counseling.

Semenya dropped out of sight Friday. The South African Press Association quoted her coach, Michael Seme, as saying she would not take part in a 4,000-meter race at the South African Cross Country Championships in Pretoria on Saturday because she was “not feeling well.” Seme had said earlier in the week that she would run.

Semenya won the 800-meter race at the world championships in Berlin on Aug. 19 by 2.45 seconds in a world-record 1 minute, 55.45 seconds. Even before that, though, her dramatic improvement in times, muscular build and deep voice had prompted speculation about her gender.

The international federation had asked South African track and field authorities to conduct the gender verification test after she posted a world-leading time of 1:56.72 at the African junior championships in July.

Some people may have the physical characteristics of both genders, a chromosomal disorder, or simply have ambiguous features. The condition is generally referred to as a sexual development disorder, and sometimes intersexuality. An older term for someone with both male and female organs is hermaphrodite.

Dr. John Park, a pediatric urologist at the University of Michigan, said a likely scenario is a condition called androgen insensitivity syndrome. The person is genetically male but doesn’t develop external male genitals and appears to be female, or the person can have both male and female physical characteristics.

The disorder is found at birth in the case of abnormal genitals. But often it isn’t diagnosed until puberty, Park said. The teen doesn’t menstruate because there is no uterus.

In those cases, at birth “they look completely like a girl. There is no ambiguity whatsoever,” Park said.

Semenya’s father, Jacob, expressed anger when contacted by The Associated Press on Friday, saying people who insinuate his daughter is not a woman “are sick. They are crazy.”

Winnie Madikizela-Mandela, a lawmaker and former wife of Nelson Mandela, urged South Africans to support the young athlete. “The poor innocent child is a victim of all this, and it is not of her making,” Madikizela-Mandela told The Star newspaper. “I think it is the responsibility of South Africa to rally behind this child and tell the rest of the world that she remains the hero she is, and no one will take that away from her.”

International Olympic Committee President Jacques Rogge said the case could have serious psychological repercussions. “This is something that touches the very soul of the individual,” Rogge told the AP in a telephone interview. “The psychological but also social consequences are really tremendous. This is something that preferably should be handled discreetly if you have the time to do that.”

Before the latest development, Semenya told reporters she is happy the way she is. She seemed to take the controversy in stride when she appeared on the cover of a South African magazine earlier this week wearing makeup, jewelry and a dress.

“She’s born a female, raised as a female through puberty. Whatever is found, with the exception of deliberate substance abuse, she’s going to have to be allowed to compete as a female,” said Dr. Myron Genel, a professor emeritus of pediatrics at Yale University who was part of a special panel of experts the IAAF convened on the subject.

Women like Semenya who are born and raised as females before the onset of puberty “should be allowed to compete in women’s events, period, end of discussion,” Genel said. He said there’s a separate issue for people who change gender after puberty.

Some disorders are noticeable at birth. Others aren’t noticed until a girl doesn’t develop periods or pubic hair during puberty, Genel said. Others don’t get noticed until a woman tries unsuccessfully to conceive.

Among athletes the issue is even more confusing because many female athletes due to their training and lack of fat don’t menstruate and thus don’t realize that they have a sexual development disorder, according to Genel and Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson, past president of the American College of Medical Genetics and a member of IAAF panel.

There is a wide variety of these types of genetic gender disorders. Individually they are rare, but put all together they are not uncommon, Genel and Simpson said.

“There’s a whole range of disorders there,” Genel said. “The unfortunate thing about this particular case is that it’s being played out in the bright lights of the international media.”

South Africans, who have embraced Semenya as “our golden girl,” took offense at the way the case has been handled.

“It shouldn’t have been made public because the girl is 18 years old. … How is she going to handle that? She may think of killing herself. She has lived her whole life as a woman and now she is told she is a bit of both,” said Richard Redman, 25, a film student in Johannesburg.

“I pity her because of the way she found out,” said Fiona Dube, a 22-year-old waitress. “I think her privacy has been invaded. Now the whole world knows. It is not like she chose to be that way.”

The IAAF has said Semenya probably would keep her medal because the case was not a doping matter.

Even South African President Jacob Zuma weighed in, saying the media have exploited Semenya.

“I don’t think we should play around with people’s lives and their privacy,” Zuma said. He said that the reports violate principles of respect and privacy and that doctor and patient confidentiality should be upheld.

In the northern South African village of Ga-Masehlong, where Semenya was raised, 18-year-old Mapula Phano said he is upset, as are many of the runner’s former neighbors.

“Caster is a woman. I don’t like having to hear people from outside saying otherwise. Here in our village it doesn’t sit well with us,” Phano said. “The stuff they have been saying about her could destroy her confidence.”

Erina Langa, a neighbor of Semenya’s grandmother, said she has been impressed by how Semenya has behaved in the last few, difficult weeks.

“She is very, very, very brave,” Langa said. “She’s like her grandmother, she’s a tough lady. Anything that she wants, she can do it. She trusts herself.”

Associated Press writers Nkemeleng Nkosi in Johannesburg, Donna Bryson in Ga-Masehlong, Courtney Brooks in Kleinmond, South Africa, Science Writer Seth Borenstein in Washington and Stephanie Nano in New York contributed to this report.
 
Such an unfortunate incident and I'm behind her. She's all woman to me as far as I am concerned and will treat her accordingly.

Also, note this except from government:

"Complete androgen insensitivity syndrome occurs when the body cannot use androgens at all. People with this form of the condition have the external sex characteristics of females, but do not have a uterus and therefore do not menstruate and are unable to conceive a child (infertile). They are typically raised as females and have a female gender identity. Affected individuals have male internal sex organs (testes) that are undescended, which means they are abnormally located in the pelvis or abdomen. Undescended testes can become cancerous later in life if they are not surgically removed. People with complete androgen insensitivity syndrome also have sparse or absent hair in the pubic area and under the arms."

Androgen insensitivity syndrome - Genetics Home Reference
 
I think it is horrible that they have to publicize this. The press are so insensitive to a young successful Female athlete. So sad! :(

No wonder why she is in Hiding.
 
My friend was tellinge me about this today.

I really don't think that it should be mentioned publicly. As long as she's a woman, I really don't think it should be anyone's business that she's a hermaphrodite.
 
I think that's got to be a really sad embarrassing event for this young girl to have this widely publicised. A certain percent of babies are bore intersex. What are they supposed to do? Participate in nothing?
 
It's not her fault she's born this way and yet traumatize her for it. That's just so wrong on so many levels.

Yiz
 
I think it is horrible that they have to publicize this. The press are so insensitive to a young successful Female athlete. So sad! :(

No wonder why she is in Hiding.


I concur and have to admit that those who wanted to reveal this information are jealous brats. I feel so bad for her.
 
I think that's got to be a really sad embarrassing event for this young girl to have this widely publicised. A certain percent of babies are bore intersex. What are they supposed to do? Participate in nothing?

they can do anything they want but it's just not fair for other female competitors who were going for gold medal.
 
Wow, talk about a MAJOR embarrassment.

They have got to be pretty sick if they think it's funny or whatever.
 
South Africa's sports minister says there will be a "third world war" if 800-metre world champion athlete Caster Semenya is barred from competing, after media reports that the gold medallist is a hermaphrodite.

The South African Government has made it clear that anyone seeking to strip Semenya of her world champion status will be seen as an enemy of the state, and that also goes for the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF).

Sports minister Makhenkesi Stofile was reacting to a report in a Sydney newspaper, citing an unnamed source involved in tests on Semenya which said she had both male and female sex organs and no womb or ovaries.

"If IAAF expel or exclude Semenya from competition or withdraw the medal, I think it will be the third world war," he said.

"We will go to the highest levels of contesting such a decision, we should think would be a totally unfair and totally unjust decision.

"The Australian newspaper reports that the results, which we have not seen, indicate that she is a hermaphrodite. For me, that means nothing. There are many hermaphrodites in the world, including South Africa."

South Africa's government will carry out its own tests on Semenya before the world athletics' governing body IAAF makes a decision in November on the 18-year-old's case, reported the Sapa news agency.

The teenager, who grew up in a rural north-east South Africa village, was meant to run a four-kilometre race at the national cross-country championships in Pretoria on Saturday (local time) but had pulled out, her coach said.

"We have decided that Caster will not run tomorrow," said Michael Seme, adding that the runner was "not feeling well".

Invasion of privacy?

IAAF secretary-general Pierre Weiss responded to the Daily Telegraph article by saying it's "clear that she is a woman, but maybe not 100 per cent".

His comments have angered South Africans. It is unclear if the 18-year-old athlete had any idea about her alleged condition.

"I've raised her as young girl and I have no doubt that she is a girl," Semenya's grandmother Maphuthi Sekgale told The Times newspaper.

"As the family, we don't care who is saying what and we also don't care even if she won't be running internationally, but we will always support her athletic talent."

The world athletics governing body downplayed any involvement with the report, saying in a statement released on Friday, "We would like to emphasise that these should not be considered as official statements by the IAAF."

South African President Jacob Zuma took a swipe at the media, saying it had invaded the teenager's privacy.

"I think we are faced with an unfortunate situation in this country where we claim to respect privacy and the rights of people, but then we do something that moves against those principles and values."

The ruling African National Congress described the reports as "offensive and demeaning", welcoming Mr Stofile's saying that legal advice will be sought on the saga.

"The South African government is right to explore all legal ways to protect Caster against violation of her rights," the ANC said in a statement.

"We urge the South African government and Athletics South Africa to stop at nothing to halt this senseless abuse and violation of Caster's human rights."

Semenya returned home from the World Championships in Berlin last month a star.

By then, though, the athletics world was abuzz with questions about her gender. It was not just her stunning athletic ability that was queried, but also some of her masculine characteristics, including a deep voice.

The public outing of Semenya's alleged condition as a hermaphrodite has further humiliated the teenager and the South African Government has promised to take action.

"It is very clear to us that Caster's human rights are not respected at all," Mr Stofile said.

"The humiliation she and her family suffered is still continuing. Neither Caster nor her family deserves this kind of humiliation.

"We have referred the matter to our lawyers to see how best her rights and interests can be protected."

Semenya's former coach Wilfred Daniels has echoed the feeling of many South Africans.

"It's sad to see it happening, you know, that the world has become this place where we don't have respect for other human beings and for very, very sensitive situations in terms of a young woman who's got to face what she will be facing now," he said.

ABC Sport - Third world war if Semenya barred: South Africa
 
Hopefully, they let her compete as a woman. There is no hermaphrodite category in the Olympics.
 
they can do anything they want but it's just not fair for other female competitors who were going for gold medal.

It is just as fair as someone born with an exceptional IQ competing in academic games.
 
Hopefully, they let her compete as a woman. There is no hermaphrodite category in the Olympics.

I saw her on the news.....I can understand all the flap about her....she does look moreso like a man to me with those muscles....but she's a woman.

It's beyond my level of comprehension to judge! And no matter the decision to let her compete, or not....nobody's is gonna be 100% happy.

I'm sure the other competitors are gonna feel "stiffed", and cheated.... over this.....Still wondering....steroids??
 
I saw her on the news.....I can understand all the flap about her....she does look moreso like a man to me with those muscles....but she's a woman.

It's beyond my level of comprehension to judge! And no matter the decision to let her compete, or not....nobody's is gonna be 100% happy.

I'm sure the other competitors are gonna feel "stiffed", and cheated.... over this.....Still wondering....steroids??
Steroids? Nope. Seems like she already has a surplus of testosterone.
 
Also please note that I read news saying that she has three times the amount of testosterone than a woman has. So you probably think, "She has as much as men has." It's not true. A male produces TWENTY TIMES MORE than a woman on average.

I cannot imagine what Caster is going through now finding out she's actually have internal testicles and that she's not able to become pregnant. She's missing out the event today citing that she's "not feeling well."

Many Western people may say, "Why didn't she get evaluated? If she never had periods, don't you think something's wrong?" blah blah blah... remember, she comes from a village where ignorance and poor health care are common. And people with that condition are often viewed as female from birth so they are likely to be conditioned that she's a girl even though now she looks more masculine.
 
yeah, they should not have public announced this. It is very humiliating.. unless it was her request to do so.

Now, that she has more testosterone, Does it mean other women can pump themselves with testosterone?

I know that in Nascar racing, when the first woman driver raced, they constantly tried to change things around (she was too light and such).
 
Also please note that I read news saying that she has three times the amount of testosterone than a woman has. So you probably think, "She has as much as men has." It's not true. A male produces TWENTY TIMES MORE than a woman on average.

I cannot imagine what Caster is going through now finding out she's actually have internal testicles and that she's not able to become pregnant. She's missing out the event today citing that she's "not feeling well."

Many Western people may say, "Why didn't she get evaluated? If she never had periods, don't you think something's wrong?" blah blah blah... remember, she comes from a village where ignorance and poor health care are common. And people with that condition are often viewed as female from birth so they are likely to be conditioned that she's a girl even though now she looks more masculine.

so on the average - men produce 20x more testosterone than women but compared to women on the average, how much more does Caster produce?
 
It is just as fair as someone born with an exceptional IQ competing in academic games.

that's different. academic games are gender-neutral. Both men and women can compete together on same team. You cannot in sports. It has separate category.
 
that's different. academic games are gender-neutral. Both men and women can compete together on same team. You cannot in sports. It has separate category.


Hard to compare her to to being a man or a woman.. Since she has both.

How much testosterone she actually has?

So you really can not compare her to being a full fledged man. Since she is not.

So that is the question...
 
Hard to compare her to to being a man or a woman.. Since she has both.

How much testosterone she actually has?

So you really can not compare her to being a full fledged man. Since she is not.

So that is the question...

she has no ovaries so......
 
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