Roe v. Wade - For Men

Steinhauer said:
I see your using a strategy to make callous jokes and those who cry "foul" are the "victims".

Is that about right?
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hmmm.... nope. try again. I see no reason to continue this "victim" playground. Your credibility is busted. You haven't came up with any single GOOD argument to why this guy should be allowed to opt out child support due to unwanted pregnancy. I don't even know why Roe v. Wade is in this picture. He just wanted to opt out of child support... not make her ex-gf get an abortion.

With that - the case is closed. next! :cool2:
 
Jiro said:
hmmm.... nope. try again. I see no reason to continue this "victim" playground. Your credibility is busted. You haven't came up with any single GOOD argument to why this guy should be allowed to opt out child support due to unwanted pregnancy. I don't even know why Roe v. Wade is in this picture. He just wanted to opt out of child support... not make her ex-gf get an abortion.

With that - the case is closed. next! :cool2:
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Exactly. Child support has nothing to do with Roe v Wade.
 
jillio said:
Actually, it's you I don't trust. Let's see... your debate strategies aren't working, your ad hominem attacks aren't working, your victim role isn't working...maybe you need to go back to the drawing board.
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Perhaps you need to re-assess your evaluation.
 
Jiro said:
hmmm.... nope. try again. I see no reason to continue this "victim" playground. Your credibility is busted. You haven't came up with any single GOOD argument to why this guy should be allowed to opt out child support due to unwanted pregnancy. I don't even know why Roe v. Wade is in this picture. He just wanted to opt out of child support... not make her ex-gf get an abortion.

With that - the case is closed. next! :cool2:
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I thought you said there was nothing further to discuss (on more than one occassion).

I take it from your posts that you consider one female life to hold more value than one male life. If one woman is criticised it is Misogyny, but if 100 men are stereotyped negatively it's no big deal because men are after all "the oppressors" of women.

Women will continue to be taken advantage of by the physically stronger sex until they learn to take responsibility and accountability for the poor decisions they make.

It's a sad world-view that women are beyond criticism for the behaviour they display and the decisions they make when men are held responsible for their actions and punished accordingly.:roll::roll::roll:


A man should opt out if women also have that right (but in all honestly, I feel they should BOTH take responsibility for the child).
 
Steinhauer said:
I thought you said there was nothing further to discuss (on more than one occassion).

I take it from your posts that you consider one female life to hold more value than one male life. If one woman is criticised it is Misogyny, but if 100 men are stereotyped negatively it's no big deal because men are after all "the oppressors" of women.

Women will continue to be taken advantage of by the physically stronger sex until they learn to take responsibility and accountability for the poor decisions they make.

It's a sad world-view that women are beyond criticism for the behaviour they display and the decisions they make when men are held responsible for their actions and punished accordingly.:roll::roll::roll:


A man should opt out if women also have that right (but in all honestly, I feel they should BOTH take responsibility for the child).
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see bold red print - heed your own advice because you are confused.

Steinhauer said:
Perhaps you need to re-assess your evaluation.
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Steinhauer said:
Refer to my assessment of your posts concerning this topic for clarification then.
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Simply look back at all my posts in this thread. It is perfectly and succinctly clarified for all.

I have a question for you - based on your stance in this issue... A woman is pregnant because she made love with her pool guy. She wants to get an abortion because she did not want to pay for child support and everything but the pool guy said no because he wants the baby.

What says you?
 
Jiro said:
Simply look back at all my posts in this thread. It is perfectly and succinctly clarified for all.

I have a question for you - based on your stance in this issue... A woman is pregnant because she made love with her pool guy. She wants to get an abortion because she did not want to pay for child support and everything but the pool guy said no because he wants the baby.

What says you?
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should the kid be punished?
 
Steinhauer said:
should the kid be punished?
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Kids should not be doing without basic neccesities of life, but they do all time because their father has "opted out" of financial responsibility for the kids.

But, your answer is irrelevent in the case of abortion. A fetus or an embryo are not "kids". Kid is a slang for child, and a being is not a child until it has been born.
 
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