Richard Matt And David Sweat, Convicted Murderers, Escape From New York Prison

diehardbiker said:
Its not my thinking, I was there... PHYSICIALLY I have seen border a lot in my life, not all borders are secured as you would like them to be, that's the fact that I know cause I saw it with my own eyeballs, period. I even already crossed few times in my lifetime without even say hi to US customs or cop at all. Nope, its not from paper that you love to read for proof whatever you wish. Its totally different than being there and just read the books.
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um.... what? many news have already shown that it is easy to cross thru and that much of our borders are not fenced. so?

you're not that special.

diehardbiker said:
I know about terrorist, that is why I am scared but what the fawk can I do? From my own standpoint I see this as real problem, and the solution requires enormous cost involved. This is United States, Not Europe, in Europe they don't have issue because their country is tiny small, making it easier for them to secure their border than ours, and anywhere from central to North America. Plus you kept forget we are having problem with so many illegal immigrants, ask yourself... how the f... they got in here in the first place? No way US custom would allow them barge into here in America that's for sure, BUT again how did the F they got in anyway?
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illegal immigrants = irrelevant.

you do realize that many of them have died crossing?
you do realize that you still have not answered my question about what terrorist has crossed into America from Mexico/Canada border?
you do realize that pretty much all terrorists came in by planes?
 
The Joker said:
Be careful in the woods you might find BIGFOOT!

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Bigfoot lives in west coast...
 
hoichi said:
Why not ask if there ever was any escaped cons crossing ivwr to canada?
Has there?
Thats more relavant.
Has there ever been any escaped cons or wanted men ceoasing the border ibto canada?
Ever?
Ill wait....
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oh I'm sure there are hundreds of them. and most of them have been apprehended.
 
diehardbiker said:
I thought SAFE-NY ACT was supposed to stop these scumbags from acquiring firearms... guess it probably a failed law after all.
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*sigh*

let me help you there....

sara1981 said:
EXCLUSIVE: Armed and dangerous: Psycho killers Richard Matt and David Sweat have armed themselves with shotguns left in hunting cabins in woods of New York, chief cop says
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-cabins-woods-New-York-chief-cop-says.html
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they.... stole it.... SAFE-NY prevents criminals from buying guns at stores... but it won't prevent criminals from stealing guns.... :roll:
 
No, the other way, let me help you better... This law actually prevents law abiding citizens from protecting themselves from these scumbags that law intended stop them BUT scumbag found a way without going though the law... hence SAFE-NY Act had failed miserably.

Jiro said:
*sigh*

let me help you there....



they.... stole it.... SAFE-NY prevents criminals from buying guns at stores... but it won't prevent criminals from stealing guns.... :roll:
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diehardbiker said:
No, the other way, let me help you better... This law actually prevents law abiding citizens from protecting themselves from these scumbags that law intended stop them BUT scumbag found a way without going though the law... hence SAFE-NY Act had failed miserably.
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can you point out a specific statute that says what you've just said?

and what does this have to do with criminals stealing guns?
 
hoichi said:
Thats a vwry good posibility.....
But
Its not certain...
Has there ever been any escsped cons never found?
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You are talking about 60s' technology? Please move on. Some escapees in 60s/70s were never caught. Why do you fail to know why?
 
EXCLUSIVE - Second 'Shawshank' guard is a part-time rock star who's facing some REAL prison blues: 'Accomplice' arrested 'for sneaking blades to escaped inmates in frozen hamburgers'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lades-frozen-meat-allowed-access-catwalk.html

2nd New York prison worker charged in connection with killers' escape
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/25/us/new-york-prison-break/index.html

Guard Gene Palmer charged with helping killers escape N.Y. prison
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/guard-gene-palmer-charged-with-helping-killers-escape-ny-prison/
 
CrazyPaul said:
You are talking about 60s' technology? Please move on. Some escapees in 60s/70s were never caught. Why do you fail to know why?
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since these two have yet to be captured by your maricle tech.your statement is meaningless.
I have no plm if people hold such a religious view of technokogy and its maricle wonders....
Meh
Its kinda like that fence from rhw atlantic to rhe pacific you believe in.....
(roll eyes)
Cool
I have no doubt tech is advanced now conpsred to 50s, but that advance doesnt mean certain.
Believe as you wish though
 
Prison guard admitted to giving the escaped convicts tools. What the hell is wrong with people ??? Why would anyone want to help 2 cold blooded killers escape from jail ?
 
EXCLUSIVE: How 'rocker' prison guard charged with sneaking blades to escaped 'Shawshank' inmates in frozen hamburgers still cares for ailing wife who insisted they split - so he could have a life with girlfriend
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ling-wife-insisted-split-life-girlfriend.html

drugs,money,cell phones,love:How prison guards go bad
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/25/us/new-york-prison-break-contraband-smuggle/index.html

Arrested prison guard: I was unwitting helper in inmates' escape
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arreste...witting-helper-in-escape-of-new-york-inmates/
 
whatdidyousay! said:
Prison guard admitted to giving the escaped convicts tools. What the hell is wrong with people ??? Why would anyone want to help 2 cold blooded killers escape from jail ?
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I don't think he thought it was going to be used for prison escape.

"I did not realize at the time that the assistance provided to Matt and Sweat made their escape easier. The altering of the electrical boxes was to enhance their ability to cook in their cells."

The screwdriver and needle-nose pliers weused to fix electrical breakers in the catwalk behind their cells. That area was part of the escape route, an official familiar with the investigation told CNN on Wednesday.

Palmer, 57, told investigators he supervised Matt and Sweat doing the work and took the tools back before the end of his shift, the official said.

Palmer's statement reveals the complicated relationship between inmates and employees at the prison.
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Inmates at work
Access to the catwalk was not unusual for prisoners. The prison used inmates to do plumbing and electric work, sometimes allowing them to go in the catwalk area, a former maintenance supervisor said.

The former supervisor, who worked at the prison for 35 years, said inmates filled those positions when the maintenance department was short staffed. Correction officers were also understaffed at times, and inmates conducted repair work unsupervised. The ex-supervisor left the facility six years ago.

The former supervisor said inmates worked unplugging toilets, changing lights, fixing leaks and repairing wiring. Their work took them inside cells and to the catwalks behind the cell walls for major pipe repairs.

Inmates sometimes asked prison employees for favors, such as sending a letter or asking for a pack of cigarettes, the ex-supervisor said. Inmates started with small favors and followed up with bigger requests, sometimes threatening to turn in the employee for delivering on the smaller offense.
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so that explains how they're familiar with the catwalks...
 
Read where they found DNA on eating utensils....and some bloody socks....:hmm:...wondering too...if these two criminals are "dreaming" of their beds back in prison....after all the Mosquito bites they must have....blisters on their feet...Bears and Snakes in the woods....K9's after them...search parties...US Marshalls...now even "The Dog" has joined the search....giggle:....one inmate was said also to have a bad back and needed meds for it....:hmm:

Bet they look like Hell...and even feel they've been thru Hell...
 
rockin'robin said:
Read where they found DNA on eating utensils....and some bloody socks....:hmm:...wondering too...if these two criminals are "dreaming" of their beds back in prison....after all the Mosquito bites they must have....blisters on their feet...Bears and Snakes in the woods....K9's after them...search parties...US Marshalls...now even "The Dog" has joined the search....giggle:....one inmate was said also to have a bad back and needed meds for it....:hmm:

Bet they look like Hell...and even feel they've been thru Hell...
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Its just onw spectacle for yor entertainment isnt if?
Ooooohhhhhh the digs on theie trail now....
Meh
Besides...
Isnt the dog hmself a former convict?
Anyway....some cons orefer a kife of bkoody freedom then to a lide of prison...itsjust what your made of that decides that...like anything in life...
 
hoichi said:
Its just onw spectacle for yor entertainment isnt if?
Ooooohhhhhh the digs on theie trail now....
Meh
Besides...
Isnt the dog hmself a former convict?
Anyway....some cons orefer a kife of bkoody freedom then to a lide of prison...itsjust what your made of that decides that...like anything in life...
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What say...loosen up Hoichi?...they surely aren't playing Hide and Seek are they?....Yeah, The Dog is a former convict. Not sure of his crime....as for which LIfe a convict would prefer...there's been many who just gave up, due to running and no food and no where to go....so it's their choice. It's been 2 weeks or more (?)....but feeling confident they will be caught...and the prison food will taste like steak after what they've been having to eat on the run...:hmm:...and at least a bed and pillow to lay their head down and getting a night's sleep....:hmm:
 
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