Polygamy

neomayja said:
If everyone agrees on the relationships and there is no abuse, metal or physical, everyone is of legal age and all the people have their rights and freedoms then I don't see a problem for those who choose polygamy or polymory.

Honestly the main reason it has a bad rap is because of the cults and various religions and cultures that abuse or treat females as a lesser being than men. If the genders were all equal then there would be a lot less problems.
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No no. It is too greedy to have too many of them. It is not fair for everyone otherwise it goes out of control. It is best to use a common sense to keep in balance and what is right and wrong. A simple fact is that the polygamy is illegal and criminal. No question about it.
 
webexplorer said:
No no. It is too greedy to have too many of them. It is not fair for everyone otherwise it goes out of control. It is best to use a common sense to keep in balance and what is right and wrong. A simple fact is that the polygamy is illegal and criminal.
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law aside, is it still wrong?
 
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webexplorer said:
No no. It is too greedy to have too many of them. It is not fair for everyone otherwise it goes out of control. It is best to use a common sense to keep in balance and what is right and wrong. A simple fact is that the polygamy is illegal and criminal.
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Not everywhere.

And when there is a diparity between the number of people of each sex, polygamy does keep things in balance.
 
Jiro said:
no. it's 2 weiners in 2 holes. or 3 on 3. :)
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Well, haven't you heard or seen that 2 men can insert both of their dicks in one woman's vagina? There is.... believe it or not. No, I don't own dvd porn. Maybe you should look around more at XXX shops in NYC.
 
jillio said:
Google matriarchal societies. They are generally hunter/gatherer societies.
What do you mean how are they set up? They are set up as a matriarchal society. Women hold the positions of power. Depending upon the society, it could be that the uncle of the offspring, (mother's brother) has more control over the children than does the actual father. The men leave their families and enter into the family of the female.
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I did look it up and those aren't the same results that I found.

In one case, the men still control the one woman.
"The husband in Kaza, Baldev Nath, 50, said that 'everyone is pleased' with their shared-spouse arrangement, including his older brother and their common wife, 55-year-old Dalma Tashi, although he did not allow her to participate in the interview."
When two husbands are better than one | GlobalPost

"Positions of power" for the women wasn't in this list:
Causes of Polyandry:

Of course, it is not an easy task to give a generalised picture of the causes of polyandry. Still this form of marriage depends upon certain peculiar local conditions .These is as follows:-

i) Scarcity of women:

Polyandry is found in such communities where the woman population is less than male population. Due to the shortage or scarcity of women a number of men are required to marry one woman. The Todas of Nilgiri Hills practice polyandry due to this reason.

ii) Social Customs:

In some communities polyandry is practiced from time immemorial. It is a custom marriage to them. In Ladakh, for example, polyandry is practiced. Here, woman popularly outnumbered men still the people of Ladakh follows polyandry custom of marriage.

iii) Extreme Poverty:

There exists a close connection between poverty and polyandry. The condition extreme poverty may not permit a man to have more wives or even one wife. Under circumstances he may prefer to polyandry. That probably the reason that in western poor people practice polyandry and rich polygamy.

iv) Bride Price:

High demand of bride-price in some tribal communities is also the cause of polyandry. Owing to the poor economic status a single man fails to arrange the bride price independence hence, the numbers of men collectively arrange bride price and marry a woman.

v) Desire to keep the property intact:

It is said that Ladakhies marry one women just to avoid the division of their Ian property a and houses. The poor people of Ceylon practice polyandry because every far cannot afford to split up into smaller units. Thus, the practice of polyandry is motivated by desire to keep the property intact and to maintain the strength and power of the joint family

vi) Desire to control population:

It is an admitted fact that a single woman bears a limited children. Under polyandry many men marry a single woman. As the children producing capacity of a women is limit hence, polyandry is a very effective method to the people who desire to keep the population under control.

Notes on the types and causes of Polyandry

It's not very common worldwide:

"A comprehensive survey of traditional societies in the world shows that 83.39% of them practice polygyny, 16.14% practice monogamy, and .47% practice polyandry. Almost all of the few polyandrous societies practice what anthropologists call fraternal polyandry, where a group of brothers share a wife. Nonfraternal polyandry, where a group of unrelated men share a wife, is virtually nonexistent in human society. Why is nonfraternal polyandry so rare?"

"When multiple men are officially married to one woman, who is 'supposed to' mate with all of them, the co-husbands have very little reason to believe that a given child of hers is genetically his, and will therefore not be very motivated to invest in it. If the children receive insufficient paternal investment, they will not survive long enough to become adults and continue the society. Nonfraternal polyandry therefore contains the seeds of its own extinction."

Why are there virtually no polyandrous societies? | Psychology Today
 
Jiro said:
I too have a good friend from Bahrain whose father and grandfather have multiple wives. he's thinking of getting another wife and I'm not sure what to think of that because I'm monogamous :aw:
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Most Americans are serial monogamists.
 
Reba said:
I did look it up and those aren't the same results that I found.

In one case, the men still control the one woman.
"The husband in Kaza, Baldev Nath, 50, said that 'everyone is pleased' with their shared-spouse arrangement, including his older brother and their common wife, 55-year-old Dalma Tashi, although he did not allow her to participate in the interview."
When two husbands are better than one | GlobalPost

"Positions of power" for the women wasn't in this list:
Causes of Polyandry:

Of course, it is not an easy task to give a generalised picture of the causes of polyandry. Still this form of marriage depends upon certain peculiar local conditions .These is as follows:-

i) Scarcity of women:

Polyandry is found in such communities where the woman population is less than male population. Due to the shortage or scarcity of women a number of men are required to marry one woman. The Todas of Nilgiri Hills practice polyandry due to this reason.

ii) Social Customs:

In some communities polyandry is practiced from time immemorial. It is a custom marriage to them. In Ladakh, for example, polyandry is practiced. Here, woman popularly outnumbered men still the people of Ladakh follows polyandry custom of marriage.

iii) Extreme Poverty:

There exists a close connection between poverty and polyandry. The condition extreme poverty may not permit a man to have more wives or even one wife. Under circumstances he may prefer to polyandry. That probably the reason that in western poor people practice polyandry and rich polygamy.

iv) Bride Price:

High demand of bride-price in some tribal communities is also the cause of polyandry. Owing to the poor economic status a single man fails to arrange the bride price independence hence, the numbers of men collectively arrange bride price and marry a woman.

v) Desire to keep the property intact:

It is said that Ladakhies marry one women just to avoid the division of their Ian property a and houses. The poor people of Ceylon practice polyandry because every far cannot afford to split up into smaller units. Thus, the practice of polyandry is motivated by desire to keep the property intact and to maintain the strength and power of the joint family

vi) Desire to control population:

It is an admitted fact that a single woman bears a limited children. Under polyandry many men marry a single woman. As the children producing capacity of a women is limit hence, polyandry is a very effective method to the people who desire to keep the population under control.

Notes on the types and causes of Polyandry

It's not very common worldwide:

"A comprehensive survey of traditional societies in the world shows that 83.39% of them practice polygyny, 16.14% practice monogamy, and .47% practice polyandry. Almost all of the few polyandrous societies practice what anthropologists call fraternal polyandry, where a group of brothers share a wife. Nonfraternal polyandry, where a group of unrelated men share a wife, is virtually nonexistent in human society. Why is nonfraternal polyandry so rare?"

"When multiple men are officially married to one woman, who is 'supposed to' mate with all of them, the co-husbands have very little reason to believe that a given child of hers is genetically his, and will therefore not be very motivated to invest in it. If the children receive insufficient paternal investment, they will not survive long enough to become adults and continue the society. Nonfraternal polyandry therefore contains the seeds of its own extinction."

Why are there virtually no polyandrous societies? | Psychology Today
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It would appear that you and I are using the phrase "positions of power" in two different ways. Although I approach most things from a psychological perspective, something like polyandry and polygamy I approach from more of an anthropological perspective.
 
Aleser said:
... What do your sexual preferences (for hotdogs in your holes, apparently, since you can't say the words penis and vagina like a grown up) have to do... with anything?
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Uh, umm...I don't see why you are taking it so personally? Maybe because I said a word "dick" and "pussy" one too many times in my past posts.
Nothing is wrong with using PG-13 words instead of R-rated words.


Aleser said:
What does group sex have to do with poly relationships? You are falsely attributing group sex to them, or sex at all, when that is not always the case.
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Um, it does in general. One lady with more than 2 male partners/spouses can be sharing it with her at the same time or during the same day. Just suppose you've seen threesome or foursome in movies. They do that in another culture in different countries. I though you knew any better to what my statement means. Yeah, I could have said it in sarcastic way. So relax.
 
This doesn't seem empowering for women:

The mechanics of fraternal polyandry are simple. Two, three, four, or more brothers jointly take a wife, who leaves her home to come and live with them. Traditionally, marriage was arranged by parents, with children, particularly females, having little or no say. This is changing somewhat nowadays, but it is still unusual for children to marry without their parents' consent. Marriage ceremonies vary by income and region and range from all the brothers sitting together as grooms to only the eldest one formally doing so. The age of the brothers plays an important role in determining this: very young brothers almost never participate in actual marriage ceremonies' although they typically join the marriage when they reach their midteens'

The eldest brother is normally dominant in terms of authority, that is, in managing the household, but all the brothers share the work and participate as sexual partners.
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Anthropologist in the Attic: When Brothers Share a Wife: Polyandry in Tibet
 
I knew a man who averaged an affair a week through five or six marriages.

I knew a woman who had ten kids, six or seven fathers, and only three or four marriages. At least one marriage did not produce a child. Another produced a child but it was not the husbands.

Perhaps in some situations a little honest plurality might be preferable.

Also a fact some seem to forget. Not all people are equally sexual. One of the objectives of women's lib was supposed to be the right of women who actively enjoyed sex to be able to admit to it and the right of those men who did not always enjoy sex to be able to admit to that.

Somewhere women's lib seems to have failed in this.
 
jillio said:
It would appear that you and I are using the phrase "positions of power" in two different ways. Although I approach most things from a psychological perspective, something like polyandry and polygamy I approach from more of an anthropological perspective.
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Do you see any kind of empowerment for women in those arrangements?
 
Berry said:
I knew a man who averaged an affair a week through five or six marriages.

I knew a woman who had ten kids, six or seven fathers, and only three or four marriages. At least one marriage did not produce a child. Another produced a child but it was not the husbands.

Perhaps in some situations a little honest plurality might be preferable.

Also a fact some seem to forget. Not all people are equally sexual. One of the objectives of women's lib was supposed to be the right of women who actively enjoyed sex to be able to admit to it and the right of those men who did not always enjoy sex to be able to admit to that.

Somewhere women's lib seems to have failed in this.
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Polygamy doesn't guarantee faithfulness, so it's not a solution for cheaters.
 
Berry said:
I knew a man who averaged an affair a week through five or six marriages.

I knew a woman who had ten kids, six or seven fathers, and only three or four marriages. At least one marriage did not produce a child. Another produced a child but it was not the husbands.

Perhaps in some situations a little honest plurality might be preferable.

Also a fact some seem to forget. Not all people are equally sexual. One of the objectives of women's lib was supposed to be the right of women who actively enjoyed sex to be able to admit to it and the right of those men who did not always enjoy sex to be able to admit to that.

Somewhere women's lib seems to have failed in this.
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Agreed. It has been said that human beings were not meant to be monogamous creatures. When one attempts to force an unnatural state upon people, problems are created.
 
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