Poll: Growing number incorrectly call Obama Muslim

Jiro said:
how? I didn't know you have to be Christian/Catholic to be the President
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No, you don't.

Don't forget, there are choices other than "Christian/Catholic" or Muslim.
 
Jiro said:
so if the Presidential candidate is Muslim.... he has no shot at all?
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Rove would fall out of his chair laughing. Of course, back in 2005 a student in my class predicted that Obama would be the next Democratic nominee (he's the "perfect" candidate in terms of racial/ethnic blends at this -2005- time); against the prevalent point that the Professor had, more political experience needed.

I'm not saying it's impossible. Just highly improbable (at least in the next decade) given the values (perception/bias) of the current electorate.

Maybe in 20 years if Crusades II happens? Or people (christian or not) somehow adopt muslim views against a declining, older population (and Islam might have more Christian parallels than many people think?). I mean, shoot, I know muslims and christians get along just great. The secret to peace is soccer.
 
Jiro said:
so if the Presidential candidate is Muslim.... he has no shot at all?
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Not too long ago political experts told JFK he didn't have a good shot at the presidency because he was Catholic. He went and won anyway.
 
Jiro said:
did we ever have Jewish President? or atheist?
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I thought you were asking about future candidates.

No, we haven't had a Jewish President, nor a professed atheist President.

That doesn't mean we can't have one in the future.
 
Beowulf said:
Not too long ago political experts told JFK he didn't have a good shot at the presidency because he was Catholic. He went and won anyway.
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That's right. I remember that.
 
Reba said:
I thought you were asking about future candidates.

No, we haven't had a Jewish President, nor a professed atheist President.
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I'm also asking about the past.

Reba said:
That doesn't mean we can't have one in the future.
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I'll believe it when I see it. same for female President.
 
craigm26 said:
The secret to peace is soccer.
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Peace will never be achieved by a sport where the players wear shorts with knee high socks!

:lol:

Just kidding. I love soccer peace.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMAtxuCpsMU&feature=related]YouTube - Raw Video: Soccer Player Throws Fist, Pulls Hair[/ame]
 
TXgolfer said:
Peace will never be achieved by a sport where the players wear shorts with knee high socks!

:lol:

Just kidding. I love soccer peace.

YouTube - Raw Video: Soccer Player Throws Fist, Pulls Hair
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ahh. yeah we can bring out the Thatcher/female implications in powerful positions right about now...

my sister used to play in competitive soccer; I would hear stories like that quite a bit. I saw that vid when it came out, but didn't surprise me because I've seen it at that level. The rules seem to be more lax and players are more competitive because there aren't as many people/spectators/money as the male counterpart. Basically, looser enforcement of the law leads to more recklessness (violence, etc.)
 
Looking at old soccer videos and pictures just amazes me how much fashion can change in a sport.
 
Steinhauer said:
I guess 18% of Americans need to be told:

White House says Obama is Christian, prays daily - Yahoo! News

and all of the foreign muslims who claim Obama is a muslim, as well as the Israelis all need to be told too.
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I sure wouldn't know Obama's religion from that link. :lol:

...Obama is the Christian son of a Kenyan Muslim father and a Kansas mother. From age 6 to 10, Obama lived in predominantly Muslim Indonesia with his mother and Indonesian stepfather.
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His father was a Muslim from Kenya, and his mother was from Kansas; how does that make Obama a Christian? Kansas is not a religion.

People are not born Christians. It's not a nationality, race, or ethnicity.
 
Reba said:
I sure wouldn't know Obama's religion from that link. :lol:


His father was a Muslim from Kenya, and his mother was from Kansas; how does that make Obama a Christian? Kansas is not a religion.

People are not born Christians. It's not a nationality, race, or ethnicity.
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Reba, you need to be a rocket scientist to know that Kansas is in United States. This was where his mom was from before he met his father in Africa (Kenya). I never knew that Obama's father was a Muslim in Africa. It is like Sammy Davis Jr. became Jewish long before he died years ago. That is true that people are not born as Christians. :hmm:
 
Bebonang said:
Reba, you need to be a rocket scientist to know that Kansas is in United States.
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:lol:

This was where his mom was from before he met his father in Africa (Kenya).
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Say what?

I never knew that Obama's father was a Muslim in Africa. It is like Sammy Davis Jr. became Jewish long before he died years ago.
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I'm glad that Sammy Davis Jr. became Jewish before he died and not after.

That is true that people are not born as Christians. :hmm:
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Yep.
 
Reba said:
:lol:


Say what?


I'm glad that Sammy Davis Jr. became Jewish before he died and not after.


Yep.
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:Oops: I meant "before she met his father in Africa (in Kenya)." I guess I left out the s before the he. :lol:

As for Sammy Davis Jr., I don't know how long he had been a Jewish before he came on the program call "All in the Family" but he did publicity said that he is Jewish in real life. So that was my surprise back then and it does make a big difference that people who have different diverse can join without the hassle from white people and let them join in their congregation with no discrimination. I was very impress about it. I loved it. Still do. :hmm:
 
Bebonang said:
:Oops: I meant "before she met his father in Africa (in Kenya)." I guess I left out the s before the he. :lol:
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That makes more sense now. :giggle:

As for Sammy Davis Jr., I don't know how long he had been a Jewish before he came on the program call "All in the Family" but he did publicity said that he is Jewish in real life. So that was my surprise back then and it does make a big difference that people who have different diverse can join without the hassle from white people and let them join in their congregation with no discrimination. I was very impress about it. I loved it. Still do. :hmm:
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He was a very interesting and talented man. He converted to Judaism as an adult; his parents were not Jewish. He converted at least 10 years prior to his appearance on "All in the Family."
 
saywhatkid said:
Does it matter? If he prayed 50 times a day, with a Crucifix tattooed on his forehead, you would still bash him. "He spends all day praying. No wonder nothing gets done."

Why not send a team of journalists to follow his every step. When he prays, they can have him clasp hands, kneel, and close his eyes. The journalists can use a counting device to keep accurate records. They could have a timekeeper for duration.

I am again amazed at how deep the cesspool has gotten. Count on this; when the Conservatives are back in power, expect an absolute refusal of cooperation from the Liberal side. That is one of the reasons nothing gets done these days. There is nothing but party politics at work. And guess what? We all suffer.
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Thank you!!!!
 
Reba said:
How was he forced? He couldn't say, "None of your business"?

Usually by the time a politician makes the national scene, everyone know his or her religious beliefs. It's not something Top Secret. Everyone knows the Kennedys were Catholic, Romney is Mormon, Lieberman is Jewish, and Carter is Southern Baptist, for example.
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Riiiight. He could have said "None of your business" and we all know that the opposition that keeps attempting to spread disparaging lies would have taken that as guilt. "Of course he is Muslim. Why else would he refuse to answer the question?"

Obama is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't in the eyes of a few fringe lunatics. If the truth is not sufficient to defame him, they make something up. It is sad that there is so much hate in this society.
 
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