VamPyroX
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It's time to get a bit more harsh cuz all we have these days are whiners complaining about "cruel and unusual punishment". Look at our killers. They kill and what do we do? Put them in prison for the rest of their life. Look at our citizens. They trip and what happens? They sue for money! That's all it is these days... people getting lawsuit-happy and whining about things being to harsh. Hell, you can't even point a finger like a gun with your hands in elementary schools! You can't even play dodgeball. Nothing! This is a waste of our time. If these kids are going to misbehave, then tell the parents to do their part with keeping their kids in control. If they kids aren't in control, then what do you expect us to do... sit there and keep saying "sit down and shut up"? No. We need to take action. I'd rather use a taser on a kid that's attempting to kill himself or run into traffic than to stand there chasing them when they have a greater risk of dying a horrible and gruesome death from suicide or getting splattered all over the asphalt by incoming traffic.
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VamPyroX, In response the cardiac arrest post, I wasn't implying that they cause that. My point was being if they were dangerous and would cause that on somebody the size of a small child, then you are doing more damage then good. If they are safe on a child that size, and it is a viable option for the situation, then use it. You just need to weigh the benefit vs the risk. In that case, the benefit far outweighs the risk invovled. If they had said the odds are good that a child would go into cardiac arrest (or suffer some other misfortune) then I would be strongly against using it.
Beowulf, Not all agencies require (but most do) their officers to be shot with a tazer before they are certified to use/carry it. Aside from being shot from a gun or hit with a baton, most officers are required to be victims of the weapons they use, whether its tazer, mace, pepper spray, tear gas, etc. If you want to be certified in the use of pepper spray, chances are you will be hosed down during your training. It isn't fun, I can promise you that.
In reference to your other comments, tazers should be used at close range, but close range doesn't mean in touch distance of that person. Tazers can be used up to 15 ft (some models may go further).
As for your comment about the doping of Americas kids, I agree with you 100%. I think a thread regarding that would be quite intersting.
Vampyrox, You bring up an excellent point and I think this is what is wrong with our kids today. Many parents look at schools as babysitters when they need to be more involved in their kids lives. It can be difficult to do that as the times have changed and we are more busier than ever, and many parents are working multiple jobs. Seems today, many parents spoil their kids to their own detriment. For example, there was another thread about the girl doing cartwheels in the cafeteria. Her father was ticked that she was suspended but had nothing to say in regards that her child was told repeatedly. IMO, he should have stepped up to the plate before it came to a suspension.
Beowulf, Not all agencies require (but most do) their officers to be shot with a tazer before they are certified to use/carry it. Aside from being shot from a gun or hit with a baton, most officers are required to be victims of the weapons they use, whether its tazer, mace, pepper spray, tear gas, etc. If you want to be certified in the use of pepper spray, chances are you will be hosed down during your training. It isn't fun, I can promise you that.
In reference to your other comments, tazers should be used at close range, but close range doesn't mean in touch distance of that person. Tazers can be used up to 15 ft (some models may go further).
As for your comment about the doping of Americas kids, I agree with you 100%. I think a thread regarding that would be quite intersting.
Vampyrox, You bring up an excellent point and I think this is what is wrong with our kids today. Many parents look at schools as babysitters when they need to be more involved in their kids lives. It can be difficult to do that as the times have changed and we are more busier than ever, and many parents are working multiple jobs. Seems today, many parents spoil their kids to their own detriment. For example, there was another thread about the girl doing cartwheels in the cafeteria. Her father was ticked that she was suspended but had nothing to say in regards that her child was told repeatedly. IMO, he should have stepped up to the plate before it came to a suspension.
I still do not believe that the police should have used that on a 6 years old child but if the child was a bit older, sure I wouldn't have a problem with that but a 6 years old???....I dunno, it doesn't feel right to me since I DO have a 5 years old child...
I personally think that children who are under the age of 6 are way too young to be treating like this from the police, there has to be another way to come across in something like this, IMO
There are serveral ways you can deal with someone that small, I mean if I had seen my child had a piece of glass in his hand, and harm himself with it then I would try my best to grab it away or try another way without harming him with something like this....
I'm not trying to make excuess for this child but still he is pretty darn young!
I personally think that children who are under the age of 6 are way too young to be treating like this from the police, there has to be another way to come across in something like this, IMO
There are serveral ways you can deal with someone that small, I mean if I had seen my child had a piece of glass in his hand, and harm himself with it then I would try my best to grab it away or try another way without harming him with something like this....
I'm not trying to make excuess for this child but still he is pretty darn young!
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Sorry to bring it up again, but I came across another article about international use of taser guns and thought I'd mention it here.
Amnesty International: Use of Tasers abused
Amnesty International: Use of Tasers abused
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America... Where bunch of people that are pu$$ies gather.
Seriously, I think the 80's era was the best we had it.
Seriously, I think the 80's era was the best we had it.