Phonak Maxx vs. Phonak Naida

haha good call on the living in ontario jenny haha as you can tell from under our names we are both in ontario as well. The naidas are made for freq transposition but it can be taken off as well....frequency transposition takes what you can't hear in the highs and bring it down to the lower frequencies so it can be heard by the user. That being said there are cool lil gadgets that come with the naida that may help you as a parent. You can get a remote with the naidas and almost any new phonak hearing aid actually and you can control the volume and program for the hearing aids which is nice. I don't think the writealex was trying to be mean...just some parents thing that their kids hearing is fine because they get tested only every 6 months or so but he could have a progressive loss but that is between your audi and you. That's good he has other means of communicating ...and the frustration is normal..i get frustrated still and I'm 21 and I don't wanna speak for everyone on the forum but it can get frusterating for any of us as it's sometimes hard not having access to every sound around us ya know:)

No question is a dumb one and if some ppl get pushy on here don't take it to heart...everyone was raised differently and what works best for you and your child is your decision:) For sure ask your audi bout the naidas tho and they come in some cool colors as well so your son can have a bit of fun with them:) I got mine in zebra print and jenny's are see through purple :p
 
Signs of Support... I'll have to remember and check back when the site is up. What kind of support or resources do you provide? I just got in contact with Deaf Access and setting up a Family Communication Worker to come in to our home and help us with learning more signs. Even though we really want our son to speak... we also want him (and us) to know signs.

In regards to the Naida's... when you say there is a huge difference in your speech understanding them... what do you mean?

I definetely want to try them on him... but with him being so young and non-verbal I worry because he won't be able to tell me. I'm hoping that he will make progress and then I will know they are what he needs.

What is your degree of loss if you don't mind me asking?

And I completely understand it's not "normal" for a 3 year old to not speak... I can get that. But what's "normal"? Our son will speak (or whatever other method he chooses) when he's ready. We can provide the services and the help but we can't make him speak. Only time will tell.
 
Do you think the Naida's would be suitable for a moderate/severe, severe loss?

I'm going to take a look at his audiogram again and see exactly where his highs and lows fall.

He gets a hearing test every 3-4 months and so far there has been no change since birth.
 
ryancher said:
Signs of Support... I'll have to remember and check back when the site is up. What kind of support or resources do you provide? I just got in contact with Deaf Access and setting up a Family Communication Worker to come in to our home and help us with learning more signs. Even though we really want our son to speak... we also want him (and us) to know signs.
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What does SOS do? It really depends. We fill in the gaps. If you need respite support we provide that with qualified support workers. If you need an advocate for the "system" we provide support for meetings with school boards, service providers, etc. If you need referrals to other agencies we do that. If you want information we do that. If you want a Deaf adult who grew up bilingual to talk to and ask questions we can set that up. If you want an oral only deaf adult to speak to we can do that. If you want an ASL only Deaf adult we can do that. If you want to explore school or day care placements with some guidance we can do that...We are very broad at this time. Currently the big project that SOS is working on is a forum to take place on August 7th about Audism within the Toronto Police services. We are offering free-child care for this event if you are interested in attending - lots of Deaf adults and youth present and it is interpreted.



ryancher said:
In regards to the Naida's... when you say there is a huge difference in your speech understanding them... what do you mean?
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I mean I have better speech understanding. I am don't like the sound recover though. Everything sounds so weird since I am not used to it. I have had them for 2 years but I am so used to hearing one thing for so long.

ryancher said:
I definetely want to try them on him... but with him being so young and non-verbal I worry because he won't be able to tell me. I'm hoping that he will make progress and then I will know they are what he needs.
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He will find a way to let you know they are right or if they are wrong.

ryancher said:
What is your degree of loss if you don't mind me asking?
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My hearing loss is profound. Around 100dB loss to 1000Hz, NR past that.

ryancher said:
And I completely understand it's not "normal" for a 3 year old to not speak... I can get that. But what's "normal"? Our son will speak (or whatever other method he chooses) when he's ready. We can provide the services and the help but we can't make him speak. Only time will tell.
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There is a typical progression for language aquisition for both Deaf and Hearing kids. Has anyone ever evaluated where he is within the language development process?
 
His Deaf Teacher from EC Drury and his speech therapist has evaluated his language development. His expressive is VERY low... but his receptive is pretty much average.

He's been wearing the Phonak Maxx for the past 2 1/2 years so hopefully he takes to the Naida's fast and well. They sound very confusing.. hopefully we all get the hang of them. The Maxx are VERY straightforward.

SOS sounds awesome!!! I can't wait to see the website.
 
I for the most part like my naidas...they give me access to sounds its just sometimes too much sound...hearing aids amplify but they aren't like regular hearing ears where they can drown out a sound that doesn't want to be heard..they amplify everything...the only qualms I have with the naidas is that I pick up too much sound sometimes and its just distorted and I don't hear actual sound it's just pure noise and that's when I take my "ears" off...

The only thing about the naidas is that they require a few trips to the audi to make it right but a basic programming should help and if your son doesn't like them I spose he will take them off or pick at his ears or something of the sort to let you know "mommy I don't like....." again the remote may help you out a lot so you know what volume his ha's are at and if you think a program needs to be changed given a diff hearing situation you're in then go can change it from the remote
 
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Even with a mild hearing loss you can see significant language delays. Don't scare people.
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Sure it happens, but three years is not common even with a moderate loss, unless nothing has been done in the way of speech therapy or ASL, which is why I was concerned. Nobody's trying to scare anyone, jeeze. Lighten up.

Now that the OP has provided a bit more background info, looks like they're doing everything right, and I would chalk the delay up to something unrelated to (but perhaps complicated by) the hearing loss, since the first son also had language delays.

And for the OP: I wear Naidas, and I like them. My loss is a difficult one to fit and speech discrimination improves minimally for me (somewhere around 30-40% without visual cues), but I really notice that they help me with recognizing and hearing my own speech. I talk much better when I'm wearing my aids, that I am certain of.
 
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ryancher said:
Does anyone like the Naida's or have had success with them?
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I have naidas and really like them. You can also get them with integrated FM, which is very useful for small children. FM can also help with the overload of noise that Alicia talks about. Does your boy have FM currently? If not, i would STRONGLY suggest it! If you or your partner wears it while you two are having conversations it may help with his speech, as it would be providing more speech and less noise for him to listen to.
I am also from Ontario, and getting an FM covered can be tricky! I met an audie who said that if the FM was to be used in more than 1 situation (school, home, etc) that the government will help pay for it but she would have to write a letter. I'm not sure how it would have turned out; my university got me a grant for mine.
As for the open-fit stuff, yes, at 3 your son is too young for them, but personally I never liked them anyway. earmolds are wayy more comfortable and the thicker tubing gives way better sound. Just FYI for the future.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks EQL... I never thought about using a FM system around the house. That may help him.

Unfortunately... we don't have one... they told us they'd talk to us more as he gets closer to school. But maybe I will bring it up to the audiologist at our next appointment.

Would Assisted Devices or ACSD/ODSP cover a FM system?
 
ryancher said:
Thanks EQL... I never thought about using a FM system around the house. That may help him.

Unfortunately... we don't have one... they told us they'd talk to us more as he gets closer to school. But maybe I will bring it up to the audiologist at our next appointment.

Would Assisted Devices or ACSD/ODSP cover a FM system?
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ADP will give you $1000 towards an FM I believe. If you already get ACSD you should definitely get money from them for it.

Are you one of the lucky ones with a young child who also gets SSAH? Not that it would help with FM but it is valuable funding for appropriate programming.
 
We obviously get the Assisted Devices... but we also get ACSD/ODSP.

Unfortunately, we've been on the waiting list for SSAH for several years... but still nothing.
 
ryancher said:
We obviously get the Assisted Devices... but we also get ACSD/ODSP.

Unfortunately, we've been on the waiting list for SSAH for several years... but still nothing.
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The SSAH list is frozen right now. No one is getting on. It sucks.
 
It's frozen... how come? funding?

I called my ACSD rep the other day about an FM System. As our son is coming due in October, I wanted to know if they would cover a FM system as well - looks as though they will. Yeah!!!

I've been going crazy looking at Phonak's FM systems - they are awesome.
 
I didn't speak until I was 5 either and I have profound loss. My brother who's a year younger than me, he didn't speak until I spoke (we were 2 peas in a pod) and he's hearing.

I have always had phonak all my child hood, when the digitals first came out when i reached adulthood the phonak digitals wasn't powerful enough for my loss so I had Widex for 8 years until I received cochlear implant for my right ear and unitron analouge HA for my left ear. Since then I have new one, which is Phonak Superos and it is digital. I liked it as it gave me more access to low frequency sounds.
 
My son is 3.5 and has a similar hearing loss, moderate/moderate-severe. He was diagnosed late and has been wearing Naida 3 SP's for the last 9 months and they seem to work very well. He understands speech well but also rarely talks. Although he does try more often now and we can see he is progressing.
 
Phonak Superos... I haven't heard of these? Are they good? How are they in relation to the Naidias?

Elliotts Dad... have you noticed a difference with his speech with the Naidas? Can you understand his words?

Tyler still just does a lot of baby babble... I believe some of it is him trying to speak but we just don't understand it.
 
ryancher said:
Phonak Superos... I haven't heard of these? Are they good? How are they in relation to the Naidias?

Elliotts Dad... have you noticed a difference with his speech with the Naidas? Can you understand his words?

Tyler still just does a lot of baby babble... I believe some of it is him trying to speak but we just don't understand it.
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Isn't Supero the English equivalent to the SUMO in the US?
 
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