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I'm with RD in making sure that my child would be safe at any school/institution of any type.

The means never justify the ends. In other words, abuse but especially sexual abuse is significant and profound for any child. (I have personal experience when young [a minor matter in the scheme of things] and I have heard far too many stories of others to take this lightly.) That is not a risk I'm willing to take if I felt it was more likely to happen. Granted one can't eliminate all risks (only the stupid think they can) but I can most certainly take action to improve the odds in the child's favor. To do anything less, I shirk my duties as a parent (I do have two thus I know what I speak).
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RD, what you're missing is that they now have very strict polices to ensure that your kid is safe. It's no longer " Lord of the Flies" sort of things. Deaf Schools are very safe. Granted it's not 100% safe but there are no guarentees in life. Sexual abuse happens in hearing schools and all sorts of situions and even in dentist's offices (a friend of mine was stranger raped in a dentist's chair)
Did you even talk to the res school about their polices and experiances with sex abuse or did you just automaticly assume that deaf schools are hotbeds of sexual abuse?
And yes, I know that sexual abuse happens. It's not a myth. It does happen...I know a ton of people who have been fucked up by it. But the way to prevent sexual abuse is not by physically sheltering kids from "potential sites of abuse" if you did that you'd have to keep the kid inside for the rest of their life! Most sexual abuse is done by "grooming" Meaning the predator targets kids with low self esteem or who are naive or sheltered about normal human realtionships. So the way to prevent sexual abuse is by a) educating the kid and b)
making sure that they have decent self esteem, and aren't naive or sheltered about normal human realtionships.
 
Man on man.. How things can drift and drift. To put it back in perspective the question was asked of parents with CI kids if they would consider sending them to a deaf school. I for many reasons chose not to of which 1 of those reasons was reports of abuse. Knowing that at a residential school there are many more opportunites for abuse and that recent reports indicate there is still abuse at deaf schools is 1 of the many reasons I chose not to send my child to a deaf school. I never said to shut down deaf schools, I never said abuse did not happen elsewhere.

I chose to not ship my child off to deaf school for MANY reasons as I have already stated. The potential for abuse was only ONE of the reasons.

I am finished defending my position in this thread. I have answered the question and given my reasons. If you guys want to continue to be in denial about the fact that the abuse does still occur, that is up to you.

And if you think that the sexual abuse of a child is a small price to pay for "cultural development" and putting your child in a deaf school (as some of you have eluded to) then in my opinion, you are truly a bad person and you really don't understand the ramifications of sexual abuse.
 
RD,

I understand whatever you feel about not sending kid to school for reasons. That's your choice as a parent to provide the best interest in your child. However, If I understand you right, So you still won't send kid to the DEAF DAY PROGRAM ( NOT RESIDENTAL school) so you still think the deaf day program ( school, not residental school) still happen with the sexual abuse issue? Is that why you wouldn't send a child to the deaf DAY school becasue of one reasons is the sexual abuse, correct?
 
Frisky Feline said:
RD,

I understand whatever you feel about not sending kid to school for reasons. That's your choice as a parent to provide the best interest in your child. However, If I understand you right, So you still won't send kid to the DEAF DAY PROGRAM ( NOT RESIDENTAL school) so you still think the deaf day program ( school, not residental school) still happen with the sexual abuse issue? Is that why you wouldn't send a child to the deaf DAY school becasue of one reasons is the sexual abuse, correct?
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Not true. If there was a deaf school nearby that had a good program and reputation I would absolutly consider it.
 
rockdrummer said:
Not true. If there was a deaf school nearby that had a good program and reputation I would absolutly consider it.
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Oh ok. i am relieved to know that you know what i was saying becasue I went to deaf day school. I have never had problem with school with staffs and so were my friends. I still keep in touch with them (not 2, over 40 friends plus +) to the day often. Glad I met them from that deaf school.
 
Frisky Feline said:
Oh ok. i am relieved to know that you know what i was saying becasue I went to deaf day school. I have never had problem with school with staffs and so were my friends. I still keep in touch with them (not 2, over 40 friends plus +) to the day often. Glad I met them from that deaf school.
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The only reason this conversation went down the path it did (in my opinion) is because when I mentioned abuse DD chimed in and said it was a myth and doesn't happen..
 
yeah. I want to make sure, thats all. I just want to clarify this since i think Deaf schools are good that definitely meets Kids with varies of hearing loss's NEEDs. That's all I can say.
 
rockdrummer said:
The only reason this conversation went down the path it did (in my opinion) is because when I mentioned abuse DD chimed in and said it was a myth and doesn't happen..
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RD, if I can help you about DeafDyke... she has been known to talk her mouth off and not think twice about her words before she presses submit.

Let's just say she doesn't run away from controversy. :aw:
 
shel90 said:
Well, that's it. I am withdrawing my kids from public schools. Wont send them there!

People will call me ridiculous for saying that, right?
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No. Did you miss the fact that many people have done just that?
 
Frisky Feline said:
yeah. I want to make sure, thats all. I just want to clarify this since i think Deaf schools are good that definitely meets Kids with varies of hearing loss's NEEDs. That's all I can say.
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I never said anything to the contrary.
 
Mrs Bucket said:
RD, if I can help you about DeafDyke... she has been known to talk her mouth off and not think twice about her words before she presses submit.

Let's just say she doesn't run away from controversy. :aw:
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Thanks bucket. here is some tough love for ya. :slap: I learned that from Bott.
 
rockdrummer said:
Man on man.. How things can drift and drift. To put it back in perspective the question was asked of parents with CI kids if they would consider sending them to a deaf school. I for many reasons chose not to of which 1 of those reasons was reports of abuse. Knowing that at a residential school there are many more opportunites for abuse and that recent reports indicate there is still abuse at deaf schools is 1 of the many reasons I chose not to send my child to a deaf school. I never said to shut down deaf schools, I never said abuse did not happen elsewhere.

I chose to not ship my child off to deaf school for MANY reasons as I have already stated. The potential for abuse was only ONE of the reasons.

I am finished defending my position in this thread. I have answered the question and given my reasons. If you guys want to continue to be in denial about the fact that the abuse does still occur, that is up to you.

And if you think that the sexual abuse of a child is a small price to pay for "cultural development" and putting your child in a deaf school (as some of you have eluded to) then in my opinion, you are truly a bad person and you really don't understand the ramifications of sexual abuse.
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I do understand. I also did not deny that it happens. I just wanted to show you that it is more likely to happen at the public schools.

Speaking of "Small price to pay" I disagree. I know it is a huge price to pay, but at the same time I know how the deaf schools are, and I know that the public schools are more likely to have the abuse to occur over the deaf schools so that is my reasoning on "sending my kid off with no second thoughts."
Fault me for my "northern european thinking" (positive reinforcement, rather than negative) for forgiving and taking life easy.

That is all.
 
posts from hell said:
I do understand. I also did not deny that it happens. I just wanted to show you that it is more likely to happen at the public schools. That is all.
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As likley... Maybe. More likley... I disagree. It would be more likley to happen where there is more opportunity. A residential program would offer more opportunity.
 
rockdrummer said:
I never said anything to the contrary.
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I did not say that, but I want to make sure that we are on the same page. Since, reminder you this forum is in public on site. i d like to see other hearing parents who happen to have deaf children and checking out with deaf schools that meet Kids' needs by coming here on AD, rather than hearing how awful about all deaf schools are which isn't true. It will leads to make deaf schools look bad for public, and governemnt. governments are trying to shut deaf school down because of the finance issues and send deaf kids to the public schools. I don't want that. I want to see the deaf schools is going to be looking up as long as deaf kids keep coming into deaf schools. So governments won't shut those deaf schools down. Lots of teachers (even deaf teachers) are fighting to keep deaf school open. They are doing their best for the enire of Deaf kids.
 
posts from hell said:
Just pointing out that you don't really know how it is on the inside. :roll:

Again, I am willing to bet that there are MORE abuse at the public schools than the deaf schools.
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That would be a result of the numbers. One can argue that yes the reports of abuse at public schools is higher than at deaf schools simply because there are more public schools than there are deaf shools. In my state there is only one deaf school and probably hundreds if not thousands of public schools.
 
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