Parants of CI children.

Which statements are true for you?

  • I want my child to hear

    Votes: 9 40.9%
  • I was advised to have a CI for my child

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • I want a CI to be included in a full tool box aproach

    Votes: 6 27.3%
  • My child knew sign language before CI.

    Votes: 6 27.3%
  • My child is only just learning sign language after CI.

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • I don't feel my child needs sign language at all.

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • My child uses cued speach with CI

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • My Child is in AVT for speech therapy

    Votes: 5 22.7%
  • If my child decided to stop using their CI I'd let them.

    Votes: 6 27.3%
  • If I had had to fund the CI myself I would have still gone ahead

    Votes: 7 31.8%
  • My child is in mainstream school

    Votes: 11 50.0%
  • My child is in deaf school

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • I am happy with results of CI

    Votes: 7 31.8%
  • I am disapointed with the results of CI

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Speech is most important for my child.

    Votes: 4 18.2%
  • Literacy is most important for my child

    Votes: 8 36.4%
  • Communication through any means is most important.

    Votes: 10 45.5%
  • I think I made the right decision to implant my child

    Votes: 8 36.4%
  • I regret having implanted my child.

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • Other. (please state)

    Votes: 7 31.8%

  • Total voters
    22
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Also speaking for Jillio, (tonight's trend) I am almost certain she would welcome the opportunity to then debate her own sources!:lol:

Don't hurt me Jillio, only teasing you.

Can't hurt you, Bott. You have spoken the truth. It is through debate of all sides that we all gain a wider perspective and a realistic attitude.
 
I get the feelings many people have voted on this poll who aren't parents of implanted children.

I didn't vote. However, that does not stop me from posting when the discussion interests me.
 
Can't hurt you, Bott. You have spoken the truth. It is through debate of all sides that we all gain a wider perspective and a realistic attitude.

:) I thought you would take it in good humor!
 
I'm sure there's enough empirical studies on both sides so that Jillio wouldn't feel as if she's constantly trying to defend herself. If an ADer happened to use the information Jillio provided against her, it isn't as if she (Jillio) couldn't retort with her own data.

Exactly! I am not concerned about an opposing view, as I have sufficient evidence to support my own.
 
I am tired of providing evidence for those who do not really have a desire to learn, but only a desire to challange me to locate the research. "Prove it" has been a challange thrown at me, and at Shel, and at many others, numerous times when the poster has simply run out of evidence to support their own claim. They cannot refute what we say, and all they are left with is "prove it." Despite the fact that we have done so on numerous occasions, the research was not read, and learning did not take place, because it was not the motive to begin with. The motive was to simply discredit me or the other poster that was challanged. And, no, I no longer have patience with that kind of behavior. It is a waste of my time and energy to engage in such pettiness. However, if one is truly interested, and wants the information for the purpose of informing themselves of a wider perspective, I will do what I can to assist that effort.

I can't speak for others here. For me, it was not about wanting you to "prove it." Not at all. It was more about the generalized statements regarding your research findings, and me not being able to validate that information. I understand why, in the case of generalized statements, that you do not provide a link or citation. Yet, when I want to validate some of your generalized statements, and I look for that on google, I can't find that. And since some of your results may come from your University research and access (hence, the same access that someone like me does not have) it would be nice to at least know that.
 
I can't speak for others here. For me, it was not about wanting you to "prove it." Not at all. It was more about the generalized statements regarding your research findings, and me not being able to validate that information. I understand why, in the case of generalized statements, that you do not provide a link or citation. Yet, when I want to validate some of your generalized statements, and I look for that on google, I can't find that. And since some of your results may come from your University research and access (hence, the same access that someone like me does not have) it would be nice to at least know that.

And if you will ask me specifically for what you want, I will make every attempt to provide it. You, unfortunately, got caught in the middle of those who were not serious about the research, but simply wanted to offer a challege. Apologies.
Google isn't going to help you much with valid research. Google Scholar would be a better bet, if you are looking on your own.
 
To Parents of Deaf Children with CIs

I was just reading the posts about the CI, and I have heard it all before. as a matter of fact, I was just like the mother who wants to give her daughter all the options for her life. We also learned ASL, were involved in the Deaf community, signed with our daughter, and accepted her as being Deaf and were fine with it. We also felt that to be good parents we needed to give her every possible tool in life, including having more access to sound. we felt by letting her make that decision latyer in life, we were actually depriving her of potential sucess with the CI.
My daughter was born deaf, so she never "missed" sound (FYI). After much soul-searching and research we went through a series of tests and we got the implant for her when she was almost four.
Immediately we had problems. The morning after, I felt a deep sense of regret. she had a high fever, and looked to her parents like, "what did you do to me?" It broke my heart, but it was already done. she developed a leak of CSF fluid, and she went through two more surgeries to "fix the leak" over the next six months. then the leak stopped. For three years she was leak free, and liked her implant. She had a solid base in ASL before fer implant, and we continued to work at deveoping ASL and her spoken English, as we wanted her to be bilingual. She was considred a success. She could communicate one-on-one with frinds, and she could speak. It was nice and convenient. She was mainstreamed at school with an interpreter for help when she wanted it. All seemed well.
This past Feb she contracted bacterial meningitis, and almost died from her CI. She was in the hospital for 7 weeks, 5 in a coma. She has a severe brain injury now. She has progressed form a vegetative state to now she is walking, and running, eating and toileting herself again, but she has lost ALL her language, both spoken and signed. We have started from scratch. She still suffers severe attention and hyperactivity and seizures. She is like a baby in an eight-year-olds body. She is relearning ASL now. Her CI was removed last April, and I am so releived. To say it was the biggest mistake of my life would be an understatement.
I learned that, generally speaking, hearing people think that a person has to speak or hear to be truly successful in life. I would have denied I felt this way in the past. I didn't really know I felt that way, but I was in denial. By all the outward signs I accepted Deaf people and learned ASL and felt I was doing it all right by the Deaf community's standards. It was hard for me to imagine that Deaf people could be truly happy and successful, because I can hear. If life is so challenging when a person can hear, then it must be even more for someone who can't!
I also learned that I wanted the best of both world's for my daughter, that I would just choose both (hearing world, Deaf world) so she could choose later in life. It seems like a good philosophy, but it doesn't work, because, by getting the implant, you ARE choosing the hearing world, and therefore NOT choosing the Deaf world. Like it or not, its the truth. I still had made a choice for her.
BTW She was mainstreamed, and "sucessful" with her CI and doing well in school, but still was alone and alienated because she was not a hearing person. There were many well intentioned friends, but it still wasn't the same as when the two hearing girls were together. She was always left out.
This is my story. Its not typical, but parents should know its a possibility when they make the choice to implant. My daughter, Brooklyn, has taught me some very hard lessons. I am thankful I get a second chance to let her be deaf the awy god intended her to be.
 
I was just reading the posts about the CI, and I have heard it all before. as a matter of fact, I was just like the mother who wants to give her daughter all the options for her life. We also learned ASL, were involved in the Deaf community, signed with our daughter, and accepted her as being Deaf and were fine with it. We also felt that to be good parents we needed to give her every possible tool in life, including having more access to sound. we felt by letting her make that decision latyer in life, we were actually depriving her of potential sucess with the CI.
My daughter was born deaf, so she never "missed" sound (FYI). After much soul-searching and research we went through a series of tests and we got the implant for her when she was almost four.
Immediately we had problems. The morning after, I felt a deep sense of regret. she had a high fever, and looked to her parents like, "what did you do to me?" It broke my heart, but it was already done. she developed a leak of CSF fluid, and she went through two more surgeries to "fix the leak" over the next six months. then the leak stopped. For three years she was leak free, and liked her implant. She had a solid base in ASL before fer implant, and we continued to work at deveoping ASL and her spoken English, as we wanted her to be bilingual. She was considred a success. She could communicate one-on-one with frinds, and she could speak. It was nice and convenient. She was mainstreamed at school with an interpreter for help when she wanted it. All seemed well.
This past Feb she contracted bacterial meningitis, and almost died from her CI. She was in the hospital for 7 weeks, 5 in a coma. She has a severe brain injury now. She has progressed form a vegetative state to now she is walking, and running, eating and toileting herself again, but she has lost ALL her language, both spoken and signed. We have started from scratch. She still suffers severe attention and hyperactivity and seizures. She is like a baby in an eight-year-olds body. She is relearning ASL now. Her CI was removed last April, and I am so releived. To say it was the biggest mistake of my life would be an understatement.
I learned that, generally speaking, hearing people think that a person has to speak or hear to be truly successful in life. I would have denied I felt this way in the past. I didn't really know I felt that way, but I was in denial. By all the outward signs I accepted Deaf people and learned ASL and felt I was doing it all right by the Deaf community's standards. It was hard for me to imagine that Deaf people could be truly happy and successful, because I can hear. If life is so challenging when a person can hear, then it must be even more for someone who can't!
I also learned that I wanted the best of both world's for my daughter, that I would just choose both (hearing world, Deaf world) so she could choose later in life. It seems like a good philosophy, but it doesn't work, because, by getting the implant, you ARE choosing the hearing world, and therefore NOT choosing the Deaf world. Like it or not, its the truth. I still had made a choice for her.
BTW She was mainstreamed, and "sucessful" with her CI and doing well in school, but still was alone and alienated because she was not a hearing person. There were many well intentioned friends, but it still wasn't the same as when the two hearing girls were together. She was always left out.
This is my story. Its not typical, but parents should know its a possibility when they make the choice to implant. My daughter, Brooklyn, has taught me some very hard lessons. I am thankful I get a second chance to let her be deaf the awy god intended her to be.

Thank you for sharing your story with us. I wish the best for you and your daughter. :)
 
I get the feelings many people have voted on this poll who aren't parents of implanted children.

I think it's just Liebling and she voted other. If anyone else has please confess so I can subtract your votes from my poll.
 
I was just reading the posts about the CI, and I have heard it all before. as a matter of fact, I was just like the mother who wants to give her daughter all the options for her life. We also learned ASL, were involved in the Deaf community, signed with our daughter, and accepted her as being Deaf and were fine with it. We also felt that to be good parents we needed to give her every possible tool in life, including having more access to sound. we felt by letting her make that decision latyer in life, we were actually depriving her of potential sucess with the CI.
My daughter was born deaf, so she never "missed" sound (FYI). After much soul-searching and research we went through a series of tests and we got the implant for her when she was almost four.
Immediately we had problems. The morning after, I felt a deep sense of regret. she had a high fever, and looked to her parents like, "what did you do to me?" It broke my heart, but it was already done. she developed a leak of CSF fluid, and she went through two more surgeries to "fix the leak" over the next six months. then the leak stopped. For three years she was leak free, and liked her implant. She had a solid base in ASL before fer implant, and we continued to work at deveoping ASL and her spoken English, as we wanted her to be bilingual. She was considred a success. She could communicate one-on-one with frinds, and she could speak. It was nice and convenient. She was mainstreamed at school with an interpreter for help when she wanted it. All seemed well.
This past Feb she contracted bacterial meningitis, and almost died from her CI. She was in the hospital for 7 weeks, 5 in a coma. She has a severe brain injury now. She has progressed form a vegetative state to now she is walking, and running, eating and toileting herself again, but she has lost ALL her language, both spoken and signed. We have started from scratch. She still suffers severe attention and hyperactivity and seizures. She is like a baby in an eight-year-olds body. She is relearning ASL now. Her CI was removed last April, and I am so releived. To say it was the biggest mistake of my life would be an understatement.
I learned that, generally speaking, hearing people think that a person has to speak or hear to be truly successful in life. I would have denied I felt this way in the past. I didn't really know I felt that way, but I was in denial. By all the outward signs I accepted Deaf people and learned ASL and felt I was doing it all right by the Deaf community's standards. It was hard for me to imagine that Deaf people could be truly happy and successful, because I can hear. If life is so challenging when a person can hear, then it must be even more for someone who can't!
I also learned that I wanted the best of both world's for my daughter, that I would just choose both (hearing world, Deaf world) so she could choose later in life. It seems like a good philosophy, but it doesn't work, because, by getting the implant, you ARE choosing the hearing world, and therefore NOT choosing the Deaf world. Like it or not, its the truth. I still had made a choice for her.
BTW She was mainstreamed, and "sucessful" with her CI and doing well in school, but still was alone and alienated because she was not a hearing person. There were many well intentioned friends, but it still wasn't the same as when the two hearing girls were together. She was always left out.
This is my story. Its not typical, but parents should know its a possibility when they make the choice to implant. My daughter, Brooklyn, has taught me some very hard lessons. I am thankful I get a second chance to let her be deaf the awy god intended her to be.

Thank you so very much for courageously sharing your pain and your daughter's struggles with us. Your honesty is admirable.
 
I was just reading the posts about the CI, and I have heard it all before. as a matter of fact, I was just like the mother who wants to give her daughter all the options for her life. We also learned ASL, were involved in the Deaf community, signed with our daughter, and accepted her as being Deaf and were fine with it. We also felt that to be good parents we needed to give her every possible tool in life, including having more access to sound. we felt by letting her make that decision latyer in life, we were actually depriving her of potential sucess with the CI.
My daughter was born deaf, so she never "missed" sound (FYI). After much soul-searching and research we went through a series of tests and we got the implant for her when she was almost four.
Immediately we had problems. The morning after, I felt a deep sense of regret. she had a high fever, and looked to her parents like, "what did you do to me?" It broke my heart, but it was already done. she developed a leak of CSF fluid, and she went through two more surgeries to "fix the leak" over the next six months. then the leak stopped. For three years she was leak free, and liked her implant. She had a solid base in ASL before fer implant, and we continued to work at deveoping ASL and her spoken English, as we wanted her to be bilingual. She was considred a success. She could communicate one-on-one with frinds, and she could speak. It was nice and convenient. She was mainstreamed at school with an interpreter for help when she wanted it. All seemed well.
This past Feb she contracted bacterial meningitis, and almost died from her CI. She was in the hospital for 7 weeks, 5 in a coma. She has a severe brain injury now. She has progressed form a vegetative state to now she is walking, and running, eating and toileting herself again, but she has lost ALL her language, both spoken and signed. We have started from scratch. She still suffers severe attention and hyperactivity and seizures. She is like a baby in an eight-year-olds body. She is relearning ASL now. Her CI was removed last April, and I am so releived. To say it was the biggest mistake of my life would be an understatement.
I learned that, generally speaking, hearing people think that a person has to speak or hear to be truly successful in life. I would have denied I felt this way in the past. I didn't really know I felt that way, but I was in denial. By all the outward signs I accepted Deaf people and learned ASL and felt I was doing it all right by the Deaf community's standards. It was hard for me to imagine that Deaf people could be truly happy and successful, because I can hear. If life is so challenging when a person can hear, then it must be even more for someone who can't!
I also learned that I wanted the best of both world's for my daughter, that I would just choose both (hearing world, Deaf world) so she could choose later in life. It seems like a good philosophy, but it doesn't work, because, by getting the implant, you ARE choosing the hearing world, and therefore NOT choosing the Deaf world. Like it or not, its the truth. I still had made a choice for her.
BTW She was mainstreamed, and "sucessful" with her CI and doing well in school, but still was alone and alienated because she was not a hearing person. There were many well intentioned friends, but it still wasn't the same as when the two hearing girls were together. She was always left out.
This is my story. Its not typical, but parents should know its a possibility when they make the choice to implant. My daughter, Brooklyn, has taught me some very hard lessons. I am thankful I get a second chance to let her be deaf the awy god intended her to be.

Awwww..here is a big :hug: Thank you for sharing your story and for your honesty.
 
I think it's just Liebling and she voted other. If anyone else has please confess so I can subtract your votes from my poll.

I am concerned because there are 9 votes for "mainstream school", and "I want my child to hear" and I know I didn't vote for either, so that means there are at least 10 parents of CI kids voting, and I have not seen more than 5 or so participating.
 
Jillio - Thanks for the offer for finding articles for me, but I'll find another way (or forget about it and focus on Cindy McCain's pants instead).

Lynsmi - Thanks so much for sharing your story. Wish you and your daughter all the best!

faire_jour - I also am a bit suspicious about this poll...

Everyone else - Hi. :wave:
 
I am concerned because there are 9 votes for "mainstream school", and "I want my child to hear" and I know I didn't vote for either, so that means there are at least 10 parents of CI kids voting, and I have not seen more than 5 or so participating.

It's possible that some vote without speaking out. After all, as you've probably already noticed the decision to implant your child then stick them in mainstream without teaching them signing isn't too popular on a deaf message board. Especially since so many of us have suffered from the oral only approach our selves. Wheras just entering the poll is fairly anonamous.
 
It's possible that some vote without speaking out. After all, as you've probably already noticed the decision to implant your child then stick them in mainstream without teaching them signing isn't too popular on a deaf message board. Especially since so many of us have suffered from the oral only approach our selves. Wheras just entering the poll is fairly anonamous.

This is true. We have alot of lurkers here.
 
It's possible that some vote without speaking out. After all, as you've probably already noticed the decision to implant your child then stick them in mainstream without teaching them signing isn't too popular on a deaf message board. Especially since so many of us have suffered from the oral only approach our selves. Wheras just entering the poll is fairly anonamous.

You got a good point there. It is possible that is the case. Nope, didnt vote cuz I am not a parent of a CI kid even though I do feel like I am one though with my students. :)
 
I didn't vote either. I have been lurking this thread like many others, but because I'm not a parent with a CI child, I didn't vote. I didn't even realize that the results were a little bit "off" until dreama mentioned it...
 
I didn't vote, either but what is the "Other" selection there for?
 
You got a good point there. It is possible that is the case. Nope, didnt vote cuz I am not a parent of a CI kid even though I do feel like I am one though with my students. :)

I didn't vote for obvious reasons. To think that the votes are skewed is being somewhat paranoid in my opinion, but that's just me. Also, does it MATTER, anyway? It's not like this poll is scientific and would have a dramatic impact on results. :roll:
 
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