Oral school

[faire_jour]

You are going to have to clarify what you mean by "spoken language track" at MSSD, and offer some support that would show this to be true. There certainly isn't anything that says anything about a "spoken language track" anywhere in their program description or department descriptions.

I have spoken to the director of their CI program. She states that spoken language is used in the classroom up 90% of the class time.

 

[faire_jour]

Perhaps the ones you have been exposed to do that...but then, given your membership in A.G. Bell, and your oral stance, that isn't surprising. But there are programs out there that encourage the use of visual cues to enhance auditory comprehension and discrimination.

She has also stated that she does not like the therapist, disagrees with the therapist's use of sign, and wants the SLP fired from the school because she continues to use sign which FJ feels is wrong to do with a child using a CI. You really probably should go back and familiarize yourself with all of the posts in the topic instead of just picking and choosing those that you think support your oral way.

Again, not what I said. I said that she is a bad therapist, and little of that has to do with her using sign during therapy.

 

[jillio]

I have spoken to the director of their CI program. She states that spoken language is used in the classroom up 90% of the class time.

Gonna need something other than hearsay from you. Might want to check their website and their program description. It doesn't say that at all. Looks like that would be an important bit of information to include for people searching for placement options.

 

[faire_jour]

And who teaches the oral deaf ed class?

But let me put it a bit more succintly....you want her to be around peers who speak and listen as their main mode of communication. At least, some of the time, it is what you want.

You also said this:
I don't want to address my child in particular. I just want to see the overall opinion of the people here. To see what the "vibe" of the Deaf community here is on this point.

But that is exactly what you have turned it into. Go figure.

I turned it into it? That is laughable.

 

[faire_jour]

Gonna need something other than hearsay from you. Might want to check their website and their program description. It doesn't say that at all. Looks like that would be an important bit of information to include for people searching for placement options.

Make a phone call. I have.

Do you disagree that they have a CI program?

 

[jillio]

Again, not what I said. I said that she is a bad therapist, and little of that has to do with her using sign during therapy.

You also said that you did not want sign used during your child's therapy. And it was in reference to this particular SLP. Likewise, I think that it is the licensure board and the board of education that makes the determination of whether or not as SLP is competent. You have what....3 years experience in observing language therapy? And you are making a judgement based on your own personal bias. Hardly credible in determining the competence of a professional.

 

[jillio]

Make a phone call. I have.

Do you disagree that they have a CI program?

Where did I say that they did not have a CI program?

I said they don't have a "spoken language track". You are the one that stated that MSSD had a "spoken language track". Did you mean to say 'CI program"?

But why would you be calling MSSD regarding admissions for a 6 year old? This is a secondary school.

 

[jillio]

I turned it into it? That is laughable.

I agree. It has become laughable.

 

[jillio]

Academics
MSSD provides students with an academically rigorous program to enable them to become self-directed, independent, and resourceful learners.

Students will acquire essential knowledge and skills, including those identified in the national standards (language arts, social studies, mathematics, science, the arts, health, physical education, technology, and deaf studies), and be able to apply them in planning and carrying out complex projects.
Students will achieve, to the best of their ability, a full repertoire of linguistic and communicative competencies to use at their disposal in interaction with both deaf and hearing people.
Students will be critical, creative, and reflective thinkers, decision makers, and problem solvers who effectively cooperate and collaborate to achieve common goals in life situations and groupings that reflect cultural, social, and academic diversity.
Students will display emotional intelligence through a positive attitude, respect, and a healthy pattern of behavior toward themselves and others.
Students will design, refine, and initiate a life plan based on self-exploration and experience that incorporates knowledge of their rights, available resources, and effective self-advocacy.
Classroom instruction is designed to address each student's Individualized Education Program needs and goals, and it is driven by the student's transition plan. MSSD students are expected to graduate ready to pursue postsecondary goals and become active members of their communities.

Departments

Language Arts Department
Mathematics Department
Social Studies Department
Science Department
American Sign Language Department
Elective Classes at MSSD
Honors Program
Eagle Academy
MSSD Library

http://clerccenter.gallaudet.edu/MSSD_Home/Academics.html

 

[Bottesini]

I have spoken to the director of their CI program. She states that spoken language is used in the classroom up 90% of the class time.

4. What is our educational philosophy for students with cochlear implants?
We address issues related to educational programming for children with cochlear implants, including development and use of both spoken language and signed language. The philosophy of the Clerc Center Demonstration Schools is to provide a "linguistically-rich environment for the acquisition of American Sign Language and English..."

Cochlear implant technology provides deaf children with increased access to sound. An important focus for students with implants is to use this access to develop and use spoken English. We also believe that students with cochlear implants should be provided with an equal opportunity to develop American Sign Language skills and knowledge of Deaf culture.

We focus on facilitating the overall development of students with cochlear implants. As with all deaf students, our goal for students with cochlear implants is to ensure full access to language to support high levels of literacy development and access to a challenging educational curriculum.

About the Cochlear Implant Education Center

 

[faire_jour]

Where did I say that they did not have a CI program?

I said they don't have a "spoken language track". You are the one that stated that MSSD had a "spoken language track". Did you mean to say 'CI program"?

Again with the semantics :roll:

They have a seperate program for children who can access sound and use spoken language. In this program they use spoken language. According to the director (who I have spoken to twice, and 2 parents whose children attend) they use spoken language in the classroom.

 

[faire_jour]

First, I have made a mistake. I meant to say MSD. Maryland School for the Deaf. I am sorry for the confusion. I mistyped.

 

[jillio]

Mission and Belief Statements
Mission of Kendall Demonstration Elementary School and the Model Secondary School for the Deaf
Kendall Demonstration Elementary School (KDES) and the Model Secondary School for the Deaf (MSSD) serve deaf and hard of hearing students from infancy through high school. We are the federally mandated demonstration schools of the Laurent Clerc National Deaf Education Center at Gallaudet University.

KDES/MSSD, a community with diversity at its core, challenges each student to achieve personal excellence in academics, communication, thinking skills, emotional intelligence and life planning in order to become a self-directed, contributing member of society. Using American Sign Language and English, students are active partners in their individualized education program. We explore effective approaches to teaching and learning that we share with families and professionals throughout the country.

Looks like Bi-Bi to me.

 

[jillio]

Again with the semantics :roll:

They have a seperate program for children who can access sound and use spoken language. In this program they use spoken language. According to the director (who I have spoken to twice, and 2 parents whose children attend) they use spoken language in the classroom.

MSSD does not. They are a bi-bi program.

 

[jillio]

First, I have made a mistake. I meant to say MSD. Maryland School for the Deaf. I am sorry for the confusion. I mistyped.

Ahhh...then you also misspoke when you said I was wrong.

 

[faire_jour]

Ahhh...then you also misspoke when you said I was wrong.

Correct. I looked back, and I saw that I had mistyped, that is why I corrected it.

 

[jillio]

Mission Statement of the Maryland School for the Deaf:

The Maryland School for the Deaf provides excellence in education in a bilingual environment to provide all students to be contributing citizens.

Maryland School for the Deaf

 

[faire_jour]

Mission Statement of the Maryland School for the Deaf:

The Maryland School for the Deaf provides excellence in education in a bilingual environment to provide all students to be contributing citizens.

Maryland School for the Deaf

It is a bi-bi school that has a CI program. The CI program uses spoken language. That is how it is different than the rest of the school.

 

[jillio]

From the admissions procedures at Maryland School for the Deaf

Dear Parents and Prospective Students ,

Welcome to the admissions procedures section of the Maryland School for the Deaf (MSD) web page. Here, you will find information on how you and your child can apply for admission to the Maryland School for the Deaf . MSD offers a complete academic program for Deaf and Hard of Hearing students from Pre-Kindergarten through High School. Students enroll in the school as young as four (4) years of age and may remain at MSD until they are twenty one (21).

The application process begins with you filling out several forms including the MSD Application form, the Case History Form and the Pertinent Data Form. Once we receive this, we can schedule your child for an admissions evaluation/IEP which may include audiological and psycho-educational testing for your child. From there, the Admissions Review Team will go over all of the documents we have on your child and make a recommendation as to what we believe would be the best educational placement for your child.

If your child is admitted to MSD, your son or daughter will be attending a school that is committed to the academic development of all of our students. In a bilingual environment, we prepare each student to be contributing citizens. We accomplish this through the Individualized Education Plan (IEP) process, where teachers and support staff strive to develop and implement an educational program designed to promote and develop your son or daughter's educational needs.

Maryland School for the Deaf

 

[faire_jour]

From the admissions procedures at Maryland School for the Deaf

Dear Parents and Prospective Students ,

Welcome to the admissions procedures section of the Maryland School for the Deaf (MSD) web page. Here, you will find information on how you and your child can apply for admission to the Maryland School for the Deaf . MSD offers a complete academic program for Deaf and Hard of Hearing students from Pre-Kindergarten through High School. Students enroll in the school as young as four (4) years of age and may remain at MSD until they are twenty one (21).

The application process begins with you filling out several forms including the MSD Application form, the Case History Form and the Pertinent Data Form. Once we receive this, we can schedule your child for an admissions evaluation/IEP which may include audiological and psycho-educational testing for your child. From there, the Admissions Review Team will go over all of the documents we have on your child and make a recommendation as to what we believe would be the best educational placement for your child.

If your child is admitted to MSD, your son or daughter will be attending a school that is committed to the academic development of all of our students. In a bilingual environment, we prepare each student to be contributing citizens. We accomplish this through the Individualized Education Plan (IEP) process, where teachers and support staff strive to develop and implement an educational program designed to promote and develop your son or daughter's educational needs.

Maryland School for the Deaf

Yes. It is a bi-bi school. I have never said otherwise.

Again, why do you think they have a CI program? Why do you think it is a different program?