Online Poker

[Warped]

FYI - online poker is illegal in USA because it is not regulated... therefore illegal.

Wrong

 

[posts from hell]

Going to copy Posts from Hell:

I'm going to refer to this post.
Everything is in there in its glory.

Online Poker

If it is not illegal, can you tell me why its shut down?

 

[Jiro]

Going to copy Posts from Hell:

I'm going to refer to this post.
Everything is in there in its glory.

Online Poker

there ya go -

 

[Warped]

there ya go -

None of that says it is illegal to play online poker. Read it carefully.

 

[posts from hell]

No, online poker isn't illegal.. USA is taking action against the poker sites on bullshit charges for various reasons to make it hard for the poker sites to operate in the USA. However, it is not illegal for people to play online poker on the sites who still allow USA residents play on them despite USA's crackdown. Heck, I still play online poker for money.

EDIT: However, real money online poker is illegal in few states such as Washington and Illinois. Ironically, those states have casinos, and lotteries. The majority of states in USA don't have anything that makes online poker illegal.

No, it is NOT illegal. There is zero federal laws against online poker, only few state laws. I guarantee you cannot come up with a federal law declaring online poker illegal anywhere.

What website I play on is irrelevant.

You say online poker is illegal. You determine that based on what?

Actually the sites are located outside of the USA which is why they don't take out taxes on the winnings. It is the players' responsibility to report their earnings. The actual reason why USA shut down the poker sites, is to form their own and have their "piece of the pie".

You refer to the states law. This is very vague as there is 50 states. I stated earlier that the majority of the states don;t have any laws against online poker except for few.

Going to copy Posts from Hell:

I'm going to refer to this post.
Everything is in there in its glory.

Online Poker

Wrong

None of that says it is illegal to play online poker. Read it carefully.

Not does ANY of your previous posts say that.

 

[posts from hell]

And I'm betting you're just a recreational poker player. Nothing too much. I would also wager you've never stepped north of 4/8limit or 2/5nl.

 

[Warped]

Actually the sites are located outside of the USA which is why they don't take out taxes on the winnings. It is the players' responsibility to report their earnings. The actual reason why USA shut down the poker sites, is to form their own and have their "piece of the pie".

They didn't declare it illegal to play online poker. They charged the poker sites with bogus stuff such as bank fraud, money laundering in order to control the traffic to the major sites. They did this in order to set up an USA regulated gambling site. They had no chance competing against the site giants.

 

[posts from hell]

They didn't declare it illegal to play online poker. They charged the poker sites with bogus stuff such as bank fraud, money laundering in order to control the traffic to the major sites. They did this in order to set up an USA regulated gambling site. They had no chance competing against the site giants.

Are you saying the government is going to make an online casino for theirselves?

What are you to say the giants couldnt follow the regulations once the regulation sets in?

 

[Jiro]

None of that says it is illegal to play online poker. Read it carefully.

um......

1. I've never said it's illegal to play online poker.
2. why would I be concerned with "playing" part? it's legal to play fake online poker like Yahoo Games. Use your common sense
3. online poker (yes the one with real money) is illegal. period. federal law.

 

[Jiro]

They didn't declare it illegal to play online poker. They charged the poker sites with bogus stuff such as bank fraud, money laundering in order to control the traffic to the major sites. They did this in order to set up an USA regulated gambling site. They had no chance competing against the site giants.

um..... read the last sentence -

in case you have trouble reading.... here it is in bigger font size -
"Conducting, financing, managing, supervising, directing, or owning all or part of an illegal gambling business is a federal crime."

 

[Warped]

Not does ANY of your previous posts say that.

Cuz there's nothing that declares playing online poker illegal. NOTHING. How the heck can I refer you to a law or whatever that says online poker is legal?

There's plenty of sources that says online poker is legal but again, the credibility of the sources can be easily taken apart. Here's some examples:

Is Online Poker Legal in the US? - Analysis of Internet Poker Laws

Is Online Poker Legal in the USA? Online Poker Legality for US Players

 

[posts from hell]

As long as the online aspect is not registered with the feds, its illegal. bottom line.

That takes down the online casinos. Not players.

Still, the whole picture = illegal casinos = illegal playing.

 

[Warped]

um..... read the last sentence -

in case you have trouble reading.... here it is in bigger font size -
"Conducting, financing, managing, supervising, directing, or owning all or part of an illegal gambling business is a federal crime."

WOW!! Reading comprehension FAIL here.. It doesn't say it's illegal to play online poker for money. Only to run an online gambling business - there's a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference there. The risk is on the owners' part to open service to USA residents.

 

[Jiro]

Cuz there's nothing that declares playing online poker illegal. NOTHING. How the heck can I refer you to a law or whatever that says online poker is legal?

There's plenty of sources that says online poker is legal but again, the credibility of the sources can be easily taken apart. Here's some examples:

Is Online Poker Legal in the US? - Analysis of Internet Poker Laws

Is Online Poker Legal in the USA? Online Poker Legality for US Players

so... you play with fake money?

jesus PFH.... wtf we doing here? why are we bickering with a kid who is not old enough to buy an alcohol.

 

[posts from hell]

Just so you know - I don't support the feds take on this either.

 

[posts from hell]

so... you play with fake money?

jesus PFH.... wtf we doing here? why are we bickering with a kid who is not old enough to buy an alcohol.

You're right. I'll just order another shot and head out of this thread.

 

[Warped]

And I'm betting you're just a recreational poker player. Nothing too much. I would also wager you've never stepped north of 4/8limit or 2/5nl.

What the hell does this have to do with anything? what stakes I play in is relevant to the legality of online poker?? I know you are trying to put me down, but next time, try a much more mature approach. Thanks

 

[Jiro]

WOW!! Reading comprehension FAIL here.. It doesn't say it's illegal to play online poker for money. Only to run an online gambling business - there's a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference there. The risk is on the owners' part to open service to USA residents.

in case you have trouble following the conversation - I've never said anything about "playing" because it's pointless to bicker about "playing" clause if ONLINE POKER SITE is illegal.

how can I "play" if Full Tilt site is shut down? duh?

 

[Jiro]

What the hell does this have to do with anything? what stakes I play in is relevant to the legality of online poker?? I know you are trying to put me down, but next time, try a much more mature approach. Thanks

ah... based on your "defensive" response - I take it that PFH guessed it right about you.

good riddance.... and you can't even order an alcohol

 

[posts from hell]

What the hell does this have to do with anything? what stakes I play in is relevant to the legality of online poker?? I know you are trying to put me down, but next time, try a much more mature approach. Thanks

It's relevant to your first question, who's hardcore? I stated what stakes I play. you didn't go "whoa, you're pretty up there..."