Obama vs McCain: Race for Ultimate President!

I vote for...

  • Obama! First African-American ever!

    Votes: 21 33.3%
  • McCain! And hot wife.

    Votes: 26 41.3%
  • Green Party or something...

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • Ain't vote them. They aren't quality.

    Votes: 12 19.0%

  • Total voters
    63
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How do you know that middle class wont be affected? I find it that middle class folks are the ones who are paying the greatest price.

It won't affect you if your annual income is under $250,000.
 
Only thing it would be worry if raise more tax on high-class. Then there would be also AFFECT on job cut!

Don't you know that many Americans are worried about the US's economy and job rates at present time?

I don't understand why the people are concern over taxes issues more than economy, heathcare, etc. There're high taxes in Europe and Canada, we get contribute what we need. The poor people get social assistance.

If you want to agree with McCain which mean that rich people would getting richer and spend US taxes on war, drilling oil? There're highest taxes in Europe countries and Canada but we doing fine with economies and we are happy that way we are because we want better healthcare and education, improve family welfare than worry about war issues...
 
I aren't voting for either of them, I am going to withdraw out of election this year.
 
How did Saddam Hussein threaten our freedom?

Iraq has long history of dictatorship, many citizens in Iraq want be same freedom as USA does, Bush and majority of congress approved the invasion of Iraq in 2002 to remove of dictatorship, restore the system to old time (like repeal of death penalty for gay people) and other reasons, also some of reason could be from Bush's father as well.

Iran and Sudan doesn't respect our country, both of them need be fixed with their system.
 
How did Saddam Hussein threaten our freedom?

Not our freedom, but the freedom of Iraqi society; The threat comes from Saddam. Saddam had a long time history of aggression toward his people in his country. While America took him out, We should now focus on getting Osama bin Laden for the attacked on America of Sept. 11th before he passed on.
 
Iraq has long history of dictatorship, many citizens in Iraq want be same freedom as USA does, Bush and majority of congress approved the invasion of Iraq in 2002 to remove of dictatorship, restore the system to old time (like repeal of death penalty for gay people) and other reasons, also some of reason could be from Bush's father as well.

Iran and Sudan doesn't respect our country, both of them need be fixed with their system.

Yes I know what and how Saddam did to his own people. Bush freed Iraqis from Saddam which is a great... I do not against it because Iraqi want freedom like our countries. The question, I asked Reba about accord her post "If you want to believe that Iraq could have become free of Saddam Hussein's control without any bloodshed, be my guest." how did Saddam threaten our freedom because Saddam is dead or he didn't even threaten our countries when he was alive.

Well, US support Saddam to attack Iran during Reagon's time (Iraq-Iran war) and then US support Kuwait to attack Iraq... again attack Iraq for free Iraqis... after Saddam's arrest and execution then again attack Iraq...

How Iran and Sudan do not respect our country?




 
Not our freedom, but the freedom of Iraqi society;

Yes, it's an exactly on my point. See my post to Pacman...

The threat comes from Saddam. Saddam had a long time history of aggression toward his people in his country. While America took him out, We should now focus on getting Osama bin Laden for the attacked on America of Sept. 11th before he passed on.
I didn't see your post as I responsed Pacman's post. See my response post to his post.
 
Don't you know that many Americans are worried about the US's economy and job rates at present time?

I don't understand why the people are concern over taxes issues more than economy, heathcare, etc. There're high taxes in Europe and Canada, we get contribute what we need. The poor people get social assistance.

If you want to agree with McCain which mean that rich people would getting richer and spend US taxes on war, drilling oil? There're highest taxes in Europe countries and Canada but we doing fine with economies and we are happy that way we are because we want better healthcare and education, improve family welfare than worry about war issues...

Rich people tend support local stores while middle to low income seek for cheap to buy from big corp such as Wal-Mart or whatever. Keep thing weird is good.
 
Yes I know what and how Saddam did to his own people. Bush freed Iraqis from Saddam which is a great... I do not against it because Iraqi want freedom like our countries. The question, I asked Reba about accord her post "If you want to believe that Iraq could have become free of Saddam Hussein's control without any bloodshed, be my guest." how did Saddam threaten our freedom because Saddam is dead or he didn't even threaten our countries when he was alive.

Well, US support Saddam to attack Iran during Reagon's time (Iraq-Iran war) and then US support Kuwait to attack Iraq... again attack Iraq for free Iraqis... after Saddam's arrest and execution then again attack Iraq...

How Iran and Sudan do not respect our country?





Don't you pay attention to news, media and wikipedia? Iran and Sudan are our enemies, just for USA and possibly UK but NOT in your country, also Iran president was mocking at us about gay issue, he stated about no gay people in Iran, that PISSED us off, I'm VERY unacceptable about what he said against our country, also Sudan has dictatorship and doesn't recognize on other culture than just for muslim, alot of non-muslim people are left Sudan and they don't support us either.
 
Don't you pay attention to news, media and wikipedia? Iran and Sudan are our enemies, just for USA and possibly UK but NOT in your country, also Iran president was mocking at us about gay issue, he stated about no gay people in Iran, that PISSED us off, I'm VERY unacceptable about what he said against our country, also Sudan has dictatorship and doesn't recognize on other culture than just for muslim, alot of non-muslim people are left Sudan and they don't support us either.

Yes I know... and have read about Iran and Sudan but I want to ask either they threaten your country/freedom or not... It's what I want to ask about.

I has to honest with you that Iran also mock our country, too because we have gay rights here... All what we do is ignore their stupidity remark... We laughed at him because we all know that there're many gays around in Iran... and hide...

Well, we have no opinion about Sudan and Iran but accept their different culture as long as they did not threaten our country which is a great. We would do something if they hurt their own people.
 
Again, silly lack of any logic from one who obviously dislikes the U.S., even though employed by it. It's known as "biting the hand that feeds you."

Naturally a strong, experienced candidate is wrong for such a mindset, and an inexperienced showboat kissing up to Europeans who want a weak U.S. is the best person.

Of course, that's just an opinion founded in the events of world history and currect events, not personal envy.

Ohh really? Get real!

I am sure there's plenty of American that have the same POV as Liebling, America is open to the varies of cultures and POVs, now that's America. America is not one way country, it's a freedom of varies country, That's America.

So quit giving the America wrong names.
 
Ohh really? Get real!

I am sure there's plenty of American that have the same POV as Liebling, America is open to the varies of cultures and POVs, now that's America. America is not one way country, it's a freedom of varies country, That's America.

So quit giving the America wrong names.

:ty: for your open mind to know my posts to compare with Americans´ POV. It´s not first time that Chase accused me as an anti-American. I know many Americans who work with me have same POV as me about heathcare, econcomy, etc... None of Americans accused me as an anti-Americans when we share our POV over polities issues until Chase and a very few ADers accused me for a first time. It seem to me that they are anti-foreigner or what?
 
Oh geez, what's with the McCain supporters?

Are you people really that naive?
 
:ty: for your open mind to know my posts to compare with Americans´ POV. It´s not first time that Chase accused me as an anti-American. I know many Americans who work with me have same POV as me about heathcare, econcomy, etc... None of Americans accused me as an anti-Americans when we share our POV over polities issues until Chase and a very few ADers accused me for a first time. It seem to me that they are anti-foreigner or what?

Yupp that's right, Americans are variable and there are plenty that has same POVs as you :) I don't know if they are really a anti-foreigner :hmm:
 
Yupp that's right, Americans are variable and there are plenty that has same POVs as you :) I don't know if they are really a anti-foreigner :hmm:

Well, very few Americans would not accuse me as an anti-American if I'm an American don't they? All what I see in them as an anti-foreigners because they do not see me in human being but European. It mean that I as an European should not express POV like most Americans.
 
Again, silly lack of any logic from one who obviously dislikes the U.S., even though employed by it. It's known as "biting the hand that feeds you."

Naturally a strong, experienced candidate is wrong for such a mindset, and an inexperienced showboat kissing up to Europeans who want a weak U.S. is the best person.

Of course, that's just an opinion founded in the events of world history and currect events, not personal envy.
this man speaks the truth. no doubt.

Ohh really? Get real!

I am sure there's plenty of Americans that have the same POV as Liebling, America is open to the varies of cultures and POVs, now that's America. America is not one way country, it's a freedom of varies country, That's America.

So quit giving the America wrong names.
plenty of Americans with same POV as liebling, you say? funny.... last time I checked - we're a gun-toting country with death penalty and many more that'd infuriate/shock Europeans... not exactly what Liebling likes :hmm:
 
Well, very few Americans would not accuse me as an anti-American if I'm an American don't they? All what I see in them as an anti-foreigners because they do not see me in human being but European. It mean that I as an European should not express POV like most Americans.

well your views are undoubtedly Anti-American... to be more accurate - "un-American" (but not toward to American people, of course not). However - if you were an American with anti-American view... we usually call you a socialist.... which is what McCain calling Obama and sadly... it's somewhat true but it's very complicated to wrap your head around it... especially for ultra-liberals. :laugh2:

So yea it's nothing to do with "anti-foreigners" because that is usually racist - a xenophobic. The terms "anti-American" and "anti-European" are usually what describes the nation's lifestyle, government system, etc.

For example - Europeans are contented with the whole concept of Orwellian Society but Americans are not. Europeans are peace-loving people and strongly believe in diplomacy even though if the diplomacy with certain nation has repeatedly failed for several years. and the Americans? "my highway or the highway" :cool2:
 
plenty of Americans with same POV as liebling, you say? funny.... last time I checked - we're a gun-toting country with death penalty and many more that'd infuriate/shock Europeans... not exactly what Liebling likes :hmm:

I would suggest you to check with websites that many Americans have the same POV as me over death penalty, guns, etc.
 
I would suggest you to check with websites that many Americans have the same POV as me over death penalty, guns, etc.

unfortunately - it's here to stay for a long time and Supreme Court upheld our gun rights. I guess there are not enough Americans with your POV
 
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