Obama supports Mosque at Ground Zero
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wow... lets see how it turns out... if anything happens to park51.. like a bomb... you know who...
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I have never spent much time worrying about death. I prefer to make fun of death and smack it around a little. It's been rewarding so far.
Plus..... Chicks dig it.
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I don't live in NYand I wouldn't live in NY anyway
But your close......
I will just stay in NYC...... Hope there is no open carry ban on nail guns.
This should help you understand the construction better:
"King’s statement underscores one of the least understood facts of the new project: there is already a mosque near Ground Zero.
Today, the New York Times reports on Masjid Manhattan (located four blocks from Ground Zero) and Masjid al-Farah (located 12 blocks from Ground Zero):
But what the two mosques have in common — besides the sense of celebration and camaraderie that comes at the beginning of Ramadan, the holiest month of the Islamic calendar, in which Muslims fast from sunup to sundown, give alms and focus on self-improvement — is that both have existed for decades, largely unnoticed, blocks from the World Trade Center site.
The Times goes on to note, “Both mosques — essentially one-room operations — routinely turn people away for lack of space.” And thus, the need for a new, larger location.
The unique aspect of the Cordoba House is not the mosque, but rather the fact it will “house a cultural centre, a 500-seat performing arts centre, culinary school, exhibition space, swimming pool, gym, basketball court, restaurant, library and art studios.” The vision of the project spearheaded by Imam Abdul Faisal Rauf is that it will function like the nearby Jewish-run cultural center, which had a role “in helping the Jewish community become part of mainstream America.” Rauf insists the facility “will serve as a YMCA-type community center for interfaith bridge-building.”
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"King’s statement underscores one of the least understood facts of the new project: there is already a mosque near Ground Zero.
Today, the New York Times reports on Masjid Manhattan (located four blocks from Ground Zero) and Masjid al-Farah (located 12 blocks from Ground Zero):
But what the two mosques have in common — besides the sense of celebration and camaraderie that comes at the beginning of Ramadan, the holiest month of the Islamic calendar, in which Muslims fast from sunup to sundown, give alms and focus on self-improvement — is that both have existed for decades, largely unnoticed, blocks from the World Trade Center site.
The Times goes on to note, “Both mosques — essentially one-room operations — routinely turn people away for lack of space.” And thus, the need for a new, larger location.
The unique aspect of the Cordoba House is not the mosque, but rather the fact it will “house a cultural centre, a 500-seat performing arts centre, culinary school, exhibition space, swimming pool, gym, basketball court, restaurant, library and art studios.” The vision of the project spearheaded by Imam Abdul Faisal Rauf is that it will function like the nearby Jewish-run cultural center, which had a role “in helping the Jewish community become part of mainstream America.” Rauf insists the facility “will serve as a YMCA-type community center for interfaith bridge-building.”
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(Side journalistic style note: Why does the President's spokesman capitalize "Mosque" but not church, synagogue, or temple? Was it just a typo?
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FOXNews.com - Under Fire, Obama Clarifies Support for Ground Zero Mosque
(Side journalistic style note: Why does the President's spokesman capitalize "Mosque" but not church, synagogue, or temple? Was it just a typo?
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(Side journalistic style note: Why does the President's spokesman capitalize "Mosque" but not church, synagogue, or temple? Was it just a typo?
Because it is in a title?
Source came from a friend's post on FB that was referencing one of her friends who happens to be on the planning board for that particular area of Manhattan. Not exactly hearsay, but not exactly concrete, either. Regardless, look at Netrox's recent post. The difference of one or two blocks shouldn't make much of a difference, should it?
Also, people keep forgetting that this is going to be a COMMUNITY CENTER, not a mosque.
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Perhaps people are not forgetting.....but rather not believing.
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The spokesman's quote wasn't part of the title.
"What he said last night, and reaffirmed today, is that If a church, a synagogue or a Hindu temple can be built on a site, you simply cannot deny that right to those who want to build a Mosque."
Maybe it's just another typo. Just odd.
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Why then do the President and his spokesman refer to it as a mosque?
Also, if it's not a mosque but just a community center, then why would the freedom of religion be invoked?
Ironically, the rhetorical questions you are asking pretty much highlight the fact that this whole thing has been distorted and turned into something that everybody has a different interpretation of.
For me, it really doesn't matter. People are free to build whatever they want wherever they want, provided they follow local planning ordinances and building codes. It was the naysayers who brought religion into the discussion.
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doesn't mosque want to expand more to build community center?
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Not rhetorical but factual.
Mosques and other houses of worship are covered under the Constitution. Community centers are not.
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Sounds to me like she was probably talking about the one a few blocks away. I can't buy into that until I hear something more specific. I doubt the Burlington coat factory also had a mosque.
It's a community center with a mosque inside. The developer refers to it repeatedly in this interview.
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Sarah Palin twitters pestering Obama to clarify on his position... I mean , what a dumb noob she is.. it does NOT matter HOW SHE FEELS, the Constitution makes it clear, the government has no business to butt in someone's religious rights. She apparently wants to trample someone's religious freedom.
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Seriously, no matter how hated Islam is in America, no courts will EVER allow Americans to dictate which religion a person should not have.
God, I really LOVE the Constitution!
Sarah Palin Twitters, Asks Obama To Answer 'Ground Zero' Mosque Questions
Seriously, no matter how hated Islam is in America, no courts will EVER allow Americans to dictate which religion a person should not have.
God, I really LOVE the Constitution!
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But in the second paragraph it is lower case. It seems just like poor editing to me.
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They get busted ..... every time
You would think a "fact" such as a mosque already being there would not go unnoticed by the MSM, especially by those in favor of building a Mosque where there is none.
For those saying I am "spewing" BS ..... try a little harder next time.
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