Obama Did Not Thanks God in His Thanksgiving Speech

[Reba]

...I doubt they teach the full version. And your experience in the 60s was no doubt atypical of the times. Did you grow up in California?

Not exactly.

Born in CT.
Moved to Key West, FL.
Moved to RI.
Moved to NJ (Kindergarten and 1st grade).
Moved to Lancaster, CA (2nd-3rd grade, two schools).
Moved to NJ (4th grade).
Moved to CT (5th and 6th grade, junior high, freshman HS).
Moved to San Diego (sophomore, two HS's).
Moved to CT (different town, different HS, junior and senior years).

Learned about Native American history mostly in junior year, CT HS.

 

[deafskeptic]

Now that I think about it, it wasn't mentioned in American History 101 either.

I didn't learn about those blankets in school.

 

[jillio]

I'm certified to teach secondary history in my state. I can tell you that the textbooks don't mention anything negative about the first settlers.

My nephew has taught history at the secondary level for 15 years. He says, as well, it is not in the textbooks. That is why he requires outside reading.

 

[Buffalo]

My nephew has taught history at the secondary level for 15 years. He says, as well, it is not in the textbooks. That is why he requires outside reading.

Good for him!

 

[jillio]

Good for him!

Yeah, he is not always the most popular with the school board, but the parents and the kids love him. And his students are educated without the usual bias you see in the history and social studies taught in the public school system.

He was called before the board once for actually teaching the religious implications of things like Manifest Destiny, etc. on the history of this country. They asked him if he was discussing religion in his class. He replied, "I am a history teacher. That is like asking the math teacher if he discusses numbers in his class."

 

[deafskeptic]

Not exactly.

Born in CT.
Moved to Key West, FL.
Moved to RI.
Moved to NJ (Kindergarten and 1st grade).
Moved to Lancaster, CA (2nd-3rd grade, two schools).
Moved to NJ (4th grade).
Moved to CT (5th and 6th grade, junior high, freshman HS).
Moved to San Diego (sophomore, two HS's).
Moved to CT (different town, different HS, junior and senior years).

Learned about Native American history mostly in junior year, CT HS.

I think you went to even more schools than I did.

 

[saywhatkid]

Not exactly.

Born in CT.
Moved to Key West, FL.
Moved to RI.
Moved to NJ (Kindergarten and 1st grade).
Moved to Lancaster, CA (2nd-3rd grade, two schools).
Moved to NJ (4th grade).
Moved to CT (5th and 6th grade, junior high, freshman HS).
Moved to San Diego (sophomore, two HS's).
Moved to CT (different town, different HS, junior and senior years).

Learned about Native American history mostly in junior year, CT HS.

Military brat? Looks kind of familiar....

 

[Reba]

My HS junior year American history teacher (a woman) also played Buffy Sainte-Marie records for us to listen to. This was one of the songs:

BUFFY SAINTE-MARIE - MY COUNTRY 'TIS OF THY PEOPLE YOU'RE DYING LYRICS

 

[Reba]

Military brat? Looks kind of familiar....

No, not a military brat. My dad served in the Navy in WWII (communications technician/submarine sonar) but that was long before I was born.

He was a civilian electrical engineer, and transferred a lot for his work. Some of the places he worked were Bell Research Labs (NJ), Lockheed/NASA (Edwards Air Force Base, CA), NARF (San Diego), NAVAIRSYSCOM (Crystal City), and one year he freelanced and set up a back-up system for Merrill Lynch in NYC after the big East Coast power blackout messed up their business (he lived in Greenwich Village during that assignment). He had a few inventions and patents.

 

[Reba]

I think you went to even more schools than I did.

Heh, heh.

That doesn't include the five colleges I attended (got degrees from three of them). They were located in CT, FL, and SC.

Military schools, one in FL, and a series of them in IN.

I was just a rolling stone in my youth, gathering no moss.

 

[rolling7]

I'm wondering of this secondary level history teachers that required outside reading did require the class to read up on the Buffalo Soldier's massacre of the Native Americans.

 

[deafskeptic]

Heh, heh.

That doesn't include the five colleges I attended (got degrees from three of them). They were located in CT, FL, and SC.

Military schools, one in FL, and a series of them in IN.

I was just a rolling stone in my youth, gathering no moss.

I only went to 8 different schools before I graduated from MSSD.

 

[Steinhauer]

The Native Americans didn't believe in god.

That's ok, God believed in Native Americans.

 

[saywhatkid]

No, not a military brat. My dad served in the Navy in WWII (communications technician/submarine sonar) but that was long before I was born.

He was a civilian electrical engineer, and transferred a lot for his work. Some of the places he worked were Bell Research Labs (NJ), Lockheed/NASA (Edwards Air Force Base, CA), NARF (San Diego), NAVAIRSYSCOM (Crystal City), and one year he freelanced and set up a back-up system for Merrill Lynch in NYC after the big East Coast power blackout messed up their business (he lived in Greenwich Village during that assignment). He had a few inventions and patents.

I moved about 4 times in my first 6 years of life. My dad lied about his age to join the Navy in 1941. Retired at age 36 with 20 years service.

 

[dogmom]

as far as original story that began this thread...why does it matter?

there have been many genocides besides the Shoah <Holocaust>
the mass murder since 1492 of many First Nations/indigenous people is one.

a thought I just now had...Kaddish on Thanksgiving

 

[Steinhauer]

As it is supposed to be. If Obama feels the need to thank God, he can do so in private. It has no place in a speech presented as a representative of the government.

I knew you were eventually going to say that - hence, my signature line was added a few days ago.

Freedom of religion does not mean freedom from religion. As airportcop pointed out to you - you need to re-read the Constitution. It does not mean what you think it means.

 

[dogmom]

and I agree with Jillio

why not "freedom from religion"?

 

[Reba]

I only went to 8 different schools before I graduated from MSSD.

Did you enjoy being "the new kid" all the time?

 

[Steinhauer]

and I agree with Jillio

why not "freedom from religion"?

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists (June 1998) - Library of Congress Information Bulletin

There is no "State" religion, and govenment cannot interfere with religion .... and, a publicly elected official is most certainly allowed to publicly state their religious beliefs even in their role as a representative.

 

[jillio]

I knew you were eventually going to say that - hence, my signature line was added a few days ago.

Freedom of religion does not mean freedom from religion. As airportcop pointed out to you - you need to re-read the Constitution. It does not mean what you think it means.

Oh, yes, it does. Airportcop is not a constitutional attorney and neither are you. This has already been decided in the courts.

Go back and read again. Your problem is you don't read. You just believe what someone no smarter and no more experienced and knowlegable than you tells you. That is just exchanging ignorance.:roll: