Obama Did Not Thanks God in His Thanksgiving Speech

Reba said:
God led the Native Indians to the Pilgrims to help them.
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I never read that in my history book! I disagree, I do not think God had anything to do with the Native Indians helping the Pilgrims . I do not believe in God.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I never read that in my history book! I disagree, I do not think God had anything to do with the Native Indians helping the Pilgrims . I do not believe in God.
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You are entitled to your beliefs. Not everyone believes in God.
 
Banjo said:
Yes, they were led to the pilgrims only to become ill with European diseases and slaughtered too as well. Not to mention losing their sacred grounds to the European settlers.
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The government knowingly gave the Native American blankets infected with small pox . My daughter came home from school with her history book to show that this was finally written in a book. It was only two sentences! I spoke to a Native American about this and he told that Native Americans been trying to get their side of the story in the history books and all they got was 2 lousy
sentences! I hope the history books today have what you posted. I doubt it!
 
shel90 said:
You are entitled to your beliefs. Not everyone believes in God.
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"Originally Posted by whatdidyousay! View Post
I never read that in my history book! I disagree, I do not think God had anything to do with the Native Indians helping the Pilgrims . I do not believe in God."


HELLO!! You did not read my comment right! ! I said I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD!! So what are talking about??? My first comment is here for you to reread!! And desfskeptic you should reread it too!
 
whatdidyousay! said:
"Originally Posted by whatdidyousay! View Post
I never read that in my history book! I disagree, I do not think God had anything to do with the Native Indians helping the Pilgrims . I do not believe in God."


HELLO!! You did not read my comment right! ! I said I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD!! So what are talking about??? My first comment is here for you to reread!!
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I think you need to reread with a calm state of mind.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
"Originally Posted by whatdidyousay! View Post
I never read that in my history book! I disagree, I do not think God had anything to do with the Native Indians helping the Pilgrims . I do not believe in God."


HELLO!! You did not read my comment right! ! I said I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD!! So what are talking about??? My first comment is here for you to reread!! And desfskeptic you should reread it too!
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:confused: I haven't commented on your post.
 
Buffalo said:
Maybe Obama likes to keep the state and religion separate.
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As it is supposed to be. If Obama feels the need to thank God, he can do so in private. It has no place in a speech presented as a representative of the government.
 
Beach girl said:
It sounds like a fairly shallow piece, maybe meant for the broad audience of television viewers.

Personally I think Thanksgiving is about far more than thinking we are "lucky," as Obama said. "So lucky" is what I think when I find a convenient parking place. "Deeply grateful" is more accurate for how I feel about being an American, and being blessed to live here.

Thanksgiving is about counting our blessings, and giving thanks. For those of us who believe in God, it's about humbly acknowledging Him as the source of those blessings.

In Obama's official Thanksgiving proclamation, he DOES mention God.

President Obama's Thanksgiving Proclamation

Here are some excerpts from the official Proclamation:

"Though our traditions have evolved, the spirit of grace and humility at the heart of Thanksgiving has persisted through every chapter of our story. When President George Washington proclaimed our country's first Thanksgiving, he praised a generous and knowing God for shepherding our young republic through its uncertain beginnings. Decades later, President Abraham Lincoln looked to the divine to protect those who had known the worst of civil war, and to restore the nation "to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquility and union."

"In times of adversity and times of plenty, we have lifted our hearts by giving humble thanks for the blessings we have received and for those who bring meaning to our lives. Today, let us offer gratitude to our men and women in uniform for their many sacrifices, and keep in our thoughts the families who save an empty seat at the table for a loved one stationed in harm's way. And as members of our American family make do with less, let us rededicate ourselves to our friends and fellow citizens in need of a helping hand.

"As we gather in our communities and in our homes, around the table or near the hearth, we give thanks to each other and to God for the many kindnesses and comforts that grace our lives. Let us pause to recount the simple gifts that sustain us, and resolve to pay them forward in the year to come."
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(Bolding is mine.)

So the interesting thing is that if you went to church on Thanksgiving day, you probably heard that Proclamation read during the service. It's not as overtly religious as some have been, but seems to at least give a nod of respect to those who believe in a Divine Creator.

If you didn't go to church and only saw this TV interview, then that might be disappointing. But seems to me that church-goers would have heard the message that mentioned God, and TV watchers would have seen the more superficial comments about football and "being lucky."

Maybe that's about the right division of audiences.
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I am Jewish so I would not had gone to church and I do not go to Temple .
So it looks like the conservation party is trying to made Obama looks like he does not believe in God.
 
jillio said:
As it is supposed to be. If Obama feels the need to thank God, he can do so in private. It has no place in a speech presented as a representative of the government.
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Right on!! This is why I do not think it a big deal that Obama left God out. I think it was a smart move as NOT everyone believe in God. If the GOP win the next election they can thanks God in their speech!
 
The GOP seems to throw the expression "God" and "family values" around a lot. But it is all lip service. Check the records of the current Repub candidates. They think by talking about it, they will get the votes of people who vote with their emotions instead of their intelligence.
 
jillio said:
The GOP seems to throw the expression "God" and "family values" around a lot. But it is all lip service. Check the records of the current Repub candidates. They think by talking about it, they will get the votes of people who vote with their emotions instead of their intelligence.
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Yes, and that's the problem with this country. Too many people voting with hearts and not cool thinking. Maybe we'd get saner candidates in the GOP if people thought with their heads. :P
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I never read that in my history book! I disagree, I do not think God had anything to do with the Native Indians helping the Pilgrims . I do not believe in God.
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None of God's providence is published in secular history books, so that's not a surprise. :)
 
Reba said:
None of God's providence is published in secular history books, so that's not a surprise. :)
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It's very easy to find that in other sources. In fact, if you're lucky, you'll find nuns handing it out for free outside Baskin Robbins. :)


The true history of the Native American genocide? --a bit harder to locate, I'm afraid.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
The government knowingly gave the Native American blankets infected with small pox . My daughter came home from school with her history book to show that this was finally written in a book. It was only two sentences! I spoke to a Native American about this and he told that Native Americans been trying to get their side of the story in the history books and all they got was 2 lousy
sentences! I hope the history books today have what you posted. I doubt it!
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:dunno: I went to public high school in the 1960's, and yes, we were taught about the smallpox infected blankets then.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
It's very easy to find that in other sources. In fact, if you're lucky, you'll find nuns handing it out for free outside Baskin Robbins. :)
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Nuns at Baskin Robbins. Is that significant?


The true history of the Native American genocide? --a bit harder to locate, I'm afraid.
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They taught about it when I went to high school. I'm surprised if they don't now.
 
Reba said:
Nuns at Baskin Robbins. Is that significant?
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:dunno: but they pass out these cute little Bibles from time to time.



They taught about it when I went to high school. I'm surprised if they don't now.
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I doubt they teach the full version. And your experience in the 60s was no doubt atypical of the times. Did you grow up in California? :giggle:
 
TheWriteAlex said:
It's very easy to find that in other sources. In fact, if you're lucky, you'll find nuns handing it out for free outside Baskin Robbins. :)


The true history of the Native American genocide? --a bit harder to locate, I'm afraid.
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For obvious reasons. But I can guarantee you that it does not support the 'Christian view" of history.:cool2:
 
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