NY and WH discriminate against blind people?

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dreama said:
How do you know that Kokonut isn't black?
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Becuase he posted a pic of him lifting tires in the Pics of You thread. He is white as I am. :giggle:

No offense, Kokonut.
 
How is it any different from those who support Michael Steele for the GOP chair position versus those who support Obama for the president seat?
 
kokonut said:
How is it any different from those who support Michael Steele for the GOP chair position versus those who support Obama for the president seat?
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What do you mean? Can you clarify?

I am not fond of Michael Steele's views just like I am not with Bush's views but that doesnt make me a black or a white hater, doesnt it? If it does, then go ahead label me racist.
 
souggy said:
Even if he was, doesn't matter...there are black people who are racist (or are ethnrcentralist) against other black people.
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Yea, I know someone who is like that. Just like there are deaf people who are against other deaf people. I used to be one. Shame on me!
 
jillio said:
And I didn't use it as a defense. I used it to show how absurd your accusation was. See what happens when you rely on surface characteristics.
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A statement to show how absurd an accusation is- also known as a defense. If I try to say "That's absurd. I have black friends. I volunteer and help black kids improve in math skills, etc." that would be a statement used to show how absurd the accusation is. But that statement, according to you, would actually expose my inner racism. What's the difference?

jillio said:
See what happens when you rely on surface characteristics. You just assumed I was white, and attributed certain attitudes to me as if that were fact. And you were wrong on both counts.
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It seems you missed my disclaimer: "* This is just for the sake of argument. I don't actually mean that."

In other words, hypothetically speaking, if one were to lob the "covert racism" charge against you, how are you supposed to refute it?
 
kokonut said:
Michael Steele bids to be first African American chair of RNC | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times
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Yea, I know he is black. I just dont agree with many of his views. If that makes me racist, then so be it. I dont get bothered by it and I wont walk on eggshells for fear of being called racist by not agreeing with every black politicians' views.


Some people have admitted that they felt they had to walk on eggshells if they disagree with Obama's policies for fear of being labeled racist. Then, if they arent racist then why the need of having to walk on eggshells? :hmm:
 
darkdog said:
A statement to show how absurd an accusation is- also known as a defense. If I try to say "That's absurd. I have black friends. I volunteer and help black kids improve in math skills, etc." that would be a statement used to show how absurd the accusation is. But that statement, according to you, would actually expose my inner racism. What's the difference?


It seems you missed my disclaimer: "* This is just for the sake of argument. I don't actually mean that."

In other words, hypothetically speaking, if one were to lob the "covert racism" charge against you, how are you supposed to refute it?
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You can't. It's just as silly to say that for a white person to marry a black person is borne out of black guilt. How can you refute against that statement?

No offense, Shel.
 
shel90 said:
Yea, I know someone who is like that. Just like there are deaf people who are against other deaf people. I used to be one. Shame on me!
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Haha... I am guilty of that too. I just got mad at one Deaf community, and applied it to the entire population; rather than acknowledging that there are a few overly vocal members. Wee... enthocentralism at its best.

I still catch myself applying ethnocentralism though... kinda hard to keep myself in check when Canada is a cultural mosaic rather than a melting pot like the United States. You know the whole idea that... you keep your own cultural identity and you stay within that identity as long you tolerate others?
 
kokonut said:
You can't. It's just as silly to say that for a white person to marry a black person is borne out of black guilt. How can you refute against that statement?

No offense, Shel.
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None taken. :)
 
There is more to race than skin color. There are subcultures and cultural norms within different communities that sometimes tie their identity to race. For example even though my wife is racially mixed and assumed to be black on the street, she was often made fun of for acting too "white" by her family members.

Just goes to show there is more to race, and therefore racism, than just skin color. I find the people that are the target of racism the most often are the people that are the most active within subcultures associated with their race (or perceived race). A lot of generally racist people don't have any issues with Obama because in their eyes he's well-spoken and non-violent, which go against the stereotypes many people have for black people.
 
souggy said:
Haha... I am guilty of that too. I just got mad at one Deaf community, and applied it to the entire population; rather than acknowledging that there are a few overly vocal members. Wee... enthocentralism at its best.

I still catch myself applying ethnocentralism though... kinda hard to keep myself in check when Canada is a cultural mosaic rather than a melting pot like the United States. You know the whole idea that... you keep your own cultural identity and you stay within that identity as long you tolerate others?
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The United States is not a full melting pot. There are still groups who separate each other .
 
CJB said:
There is more to race than skin color. There are subcultures and cultural norms within different communities that sometimes tie their identity to race. For example even though my wife is racially mixed and assumed to be black on the street, she was often made fun of for acting too "white" by her family members.

Just goes to show there is more to race, and therefore racism, than just skin color. I find the people that are the target of racism the most often are the people that are the most active within subcultures associated with their race (or perceived race).
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That's true. My hubby's parents call him their "white" kid because he doesnt act black enough.
 
CJB said:
There is more to race than skin color. There are subcultures and cultural norms within different communities that sometimes tie their identity to race. For example even though my wife is racially mixed and assumed to be black on the street, she was often made fun of for acting too "white" by her family members.
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The same thing applies to those for "acting like a hearing person," too. But that's another topic.
 
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