NTID ponders to remove the name of AGB from the campus

GalaxyAngel said:
remove plague must go..

Doesn't make sense nowadays they are ASL why plague says.. Oral only and not allowed Sign language people marry to oral.. that heck stupid plague on it agbell..

Agbell must remove it.
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Here's what it says...

“Only six years before his death, Alexander Graham Bell looked back over his amazing life and wrote, ‘Recognition of my work for and interest in the education of the deaf has always been more pleasing to me than even recognition of my work with the telephone.’ A brilliant and innovative teacher of the deaf, Bell dedicated a great portion of his life to help deaf children develop their potential for listening, speaking, and lip-reading. Today, NTID emulates the ideals of which Alexander Graham worked.”

Years ago, people thought that deaf people couldn't communicate... period.

Just because he dedicated his life to helping deaf people listen, speak, and lipread doesn't mean that he was oral-only. He was simply trying to prove that any deaf person has potential and can do anything.
 
Oh okay I know Tower C. It was two floor dorm, across from NTID Academy. Thanks for answer my question.


Boult said:
No... no building on RIT/NTID campus that was renamed to Alexander G. Bell Hall. see RIT: What's In A Name? - Buildings AGB Hall is also known as Tower C.

The person who wrote the letter in first post does not understand the reasoning behind the naming of residence halls...

see AGBell/Tower C Mania -- found in blank and I hope you and others understand the reasoning behind the naming of the hall. It was dedicated by a relative of AGB. There is already a balance on NTID campus. There is no need to go biased on one side.

NTID already have speech therapy, CI supports, ASL etc etc... NTID caters to all walk of life with hearing loss regardless of communication modes.
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In your last couple paragraphs, I understand and got your points. I do agree with you. Thank you!
 
VamPyroX said:
Well, his beliefs were based on his lifetime... not ours.

Years ago, a lot of people thought that deaf people couldn't do anything. Do we look at those people and degrade them or protest them in every manner possible? No.

We do look back and laugh... while applauding ourselves today for where we are.

There's no need to suddenly attack someone today for something that happened years ago. NTID was founded 35 years ago. Why wait 35 years to say something today?
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But the organization that carries his name continues to promote discriminatory practices against the signing deaf today. He may be dead, but his philosophies live on.
 
VamPyroX said:
Here's what it says...

“Only six years before his death, Alexander Graham Bell looked back over his amazing life and wrote, ‘Recognition of my work for and interest in the education of the deaf has always been more pleasing to me than even recognition of my work with the telephone.’ A brilliant and innovative teacher of the deaf, Bell dedicated a great portion of his life to help deaf children develop their potential for listening, speaking, and lip-reading. Today, NTID emulates the ideals of which Alexander Graham worked.”

Years ago, people thought that deaf people couldn't communicate... period.

Just because he dedicated his life to helping deaf people listen, speak, and lipread doesn't mean that he was oral-only. He was simply trying to prove that any deaf person has potential and can do anything.
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AGBell wanted to sterilize deaf people! :eek3:
 
I'm all for renaming the Bell building at NTID. I've always thought that his name didn't belong on a signing campus. The building should have been named after a person who did a lot for the Deaf Culture.

A partial list comes to mind:
Hearing: Stokes, Lane
Deaf: Paddy Lane, Bernard Bragg, Dummy Hoy, Deaf Smith, Larent Clerc.. etc..
 
VamPyroX said:
Well, his beliefs were based on his lifetime... not ours.

Years ago, a lot of people thought that deaf people couldn't do anything. Do we look at those people and degrade them or protest them in every manner possible? No.

We do look back and laugh... while applauding ourselves today for where we are.

There's no need to suddenly attack someone today for something that happened years ago. NTID was founded 35 years ago. Why wait 35 years to say something today?
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The problem is that his beliefs/philosphy still live on to today. So we need to educate people that Bell isn't what he seems to be. I dont care if Bell's name is being honored in somewhere as long it isn't in deaf community.

Hell, AGB organization was inspired by man himself and this organization is well known for ridiculing ASL and claimed Oral is the only one effective method for deaf people. :sure:
 
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deafskeptic said:
I'm all for renaming the Bell building at NTID. I've always thought that his name didn't belong on a signing campus. The building should have been named after a person who did a lot for the Deaf Culture.

A partial list comes to mind:
Hearing: Stokes, Lane
Deaf: Paddy Lane, Bernard Bragg, Dummy Hoy, Deaf Smith, Larent Clerc.. etc..
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Agreed. I am fine with anyone on your list :)
 
deafskeptic said:
I'm all for renaming the Bell building at NTID. I've always thought that his name didn't belong on a signing campus. The building should have been named after a person who did a lot for the Deaf Culture.

A partial list comes to mind:
Hearing: Stokes, Lane
Deaf: Paddy Lane, Bernard Bragg, Dummy Hoy, Deaf Smith, Larent Clerc.. etc..
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Good list, deafskeptic.
 
Byrdie714 said:
Knowing that NTID is part of RIT....what's RIT's stand on this issue?
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AGB's name is on NTID campus. It is a hallway and located between Tower A and Peterson building. RIT have 8 colleges and NTID is one of 8 colleges. So RIT just leave this matter up to NTID community.
 
lumbingmi said:
AGB's name is on NTID campus. It is a hallway and located between Tower A and Peterson building. RIT have 8 colleges and NTID is one of 8 colleges. So RIT just leave this matter up to NTID community.
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I knew that.....:)

I was wondering what RIT's stand is on this issue since the name of "RIT" is usually on the diploma's of NTID students......

I think RIT should have a say in it as well.....
 
Byrdie714 said:
I knew that.....:)

I was wondering what RIT's stand is on this issue since the name of "RIT" is usually on the diploma's of NTID students......

I think RIT should have a say in it as well.....
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You know that hearing community usually would support whatever deaf community want therefore hearing wouldn't want to meddling into deaf affairs.

I am sure that Vice president of NTID will keep RIT president up to date and NTID VP have full support from RIT President.

Not many people realize the reason why NTID is having a committee meeting regard to this issue is to prevent protest from happening. NTID doesn't want to have another DPN on their campus. LOL
 
lumbingmi said:
You know that hearing community usually would support whatever deaf community want therefore hearing wouldn't want to meddling into deaf affairs.

I am sure that Vice president of NTID will keep RIT president up to date and NTID VP have full support from RIT President.

Not many people realize the reason why NTID is having a committee meeting regard to this issue is to prevent protest from happening. NTID doesn't want to have another DPN on their campus. LOL
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DPN?
 
lumbingmi said:
You know that hearing community usually would support whatever deaf community want therefore hearing wouldn't want to meddling into deaf affairs.

I am sure that Vice president of NTID will keep RIT president up to date and NTID VP have full support from RIT President.

Not many people realize the reason why NTID is having a committee meeting regard to this issue is to prevent protest from happening. NTID doesn't want to have another DPN on their campus. LOL
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Well AGB did marry a deaf woman. Name the building after her, afterall she did have to put up with him. :giggle:
 
Byrdie714 said:
Well AGB did marry a deaf woman. Name the building after her, afterall she did have to put up with him. :giggle:
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My understanding is that Mabel Hubbard Bell want nothing to do with the deaf community. Naming that building after her is a moot point.
 
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