zookeeper4321
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Beowulf said:Except to use them as shields.
LOL- Stay away from Mr. Zookeepers jail- you'll need a shield. He's a hard ass. Hopefully, you don't plan to go back.
Beowulf said:Except to use them as shields.
So should a deaf person have an interpreter follow them around all the time, 24 hours a day, just so they can communicate with hearing people and not miss out on things? Is that how it should be in a perfect world?Y said:hearing prisoners can hear and participate another prisoners daily conversations while I would be left out in the cold without being able to participate or overhear their daily conversations only because there
were no interpreter available. No Fair. I would need interpreters available there all the times no matter what. That would be reasonable to get interpreters available 24/7 all the times.
I agree that the cost would be thru the roof, and the other problem would be finding enough terps willing to live in prison. Interpreting for a meeting between a Deaf inmate in an office with the warden, or with the inmate's attorney, or with a doctor is one thing. Staying in the general population with the inmate and his "pals" is something else.Etoile said:So should a deaf person have an interpreter follow them around all the time, 24 hours a day, just so they can communicate with hearing people and not miss out on things? Is that how it should be in a perfect world?
I think in the specific case of a jail, it is a cost issue. Yes, it would be great if every deaf inmate had an interpreter there 24/7 so they wouldn't miss out on things. But remember jails are publicly funded (regardless of who runs them, they get public money) and they just don't have money for 24/7 interpreters. It would be nice but it's not economically reasonable.
Y said:IThat would
be reasonable to get interpreters available
24/7 all the times.
Who is making it a comedy, and how?Nesmuth said:You guys are making a comedy out of a serious issue. Maybe that's why we all having these enforcement problems. I'm seeing this because of too many folks with different perceptions of this issue.
Richard
Etoile said:Who is making it a comedy, and how?
Tousi said:Etoile, hi. Government agencies? Ok, but we are talking about a private company, not a government agency.
Nesmuth said:Etoile needs to be reminded that cost factor is not a reasonable excuse for non-compliance.
Interpretrator said:And in as patronizing a manner as possible, evidently.
Are you referring to the earlier part of the thread discussing under what circumstances an interpreter should be called in to work at a prison? Or are you seriously asserting that interpreters should be forced to give up their civil rights and reside in jail for at minimum eight hours a day every day?
If the former, that's out of my league.
LinuxGold said:Only a thought: What if the deaf convict is *REALLY* innocent and is a victim of circumstance trying to voice out his innocence? (just a quick thought, maybe useless anyway)
Ahh... noted...Interpretrator said:I wouldn't call it useless, to me that is vital! But that kind of thing would happen in meetings with the convict's lawyers and appeals team and so forth, I believe, where an interpreter would without doubt be required. I'm not sure it's relevant when it comes to everyday life in prison, where to paraphrase "The Shawshank Redemption" -- "everyone is 'innocent' in there." I do think any kind of official meeting that takes place -- with a doctor, warden, lawyer, etc. -- must have an interpreter present if one is needed.