Neighbors want the family's handicap ramp removed.

sequoias said:
I think concerte would be cheaper to take care for the long run because the handicapped people cannot hire someone to refinish the wood ramps every year, could get expensive. Long run and low maintenance is better than keep maitenancing for once or twice a year.
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Its not refinishing, just sealing.. costs with all time/materials and equipment about $50 and a half hour time.
 
sequoias said:
Also it is possible to remove the concerte with special tools, if someone wants to buy the house in the future. It doesn't have to be a permanent structure.
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ok, you and a neighbor with identical houses, you build a concrete structure and they build a wooden one... see whos taxes skyrockets.

Special tools to remove concrete..... you mean a BOBCAT, with JACKHAMMERS and DUMPTRUCKS as well as about a half dozen laborers,,,,yeah, that's cheap... (sarcastically)
 
Frisky Feline said:
I have seen a nice house with FILLED OF hoarding stuff outside and inside the house.
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There is a house a block away that looks like a house of horrors. The chimney looks like it is slowly peeling off from the house. It is in such bad shape and the people don't take care of their yard. Weeds as tall as the house, junk in the front and backyard, and broken windows. Crazy!
 
diehardbiker said:
A possible reason for concrete ramp is easier snow/ice removal, other possible is zoning rules, that might prohibit wooden deck in front. So, we don't know the full story, and that neighbor might not know the whole story behind.

Or maybe that person got grant and had to follow specification, and approved by zoning board, who knows?
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Yes, I think there is many snowy days in Colorado.
 
sonocativo said:
Its not refinishing, just sealing.. costs with all time/materials and equipment about $50 and a half hour time.
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If you are physically disabled, you might have a different point of view.
 
sonocativo said:
ok, you and a neighbor with identical houses, you build a concrete structure and they build a wooden one... see whos taxes skyrockets.

Special tools to remove concrete..... you mean a BOBCAT, with JACKHAMMERS and DUMPTRUCKS as well as about a half dozen laborers,,,,yeah, that's cheap... (sarcastically)
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I know that. :)
 
sonocativo said:
ok here is my insight as I have built ramps for handicapped people over the years. Why did they build a big blocky CONCRETE ramp on the front of the house when a nicely and cheaper wooden structure would have looked nicer? the concrete block looks commercial and is ugly.

They have an attached 2 car garage that will accommodate a van nicely, that either the ramp from the van (if side mounted) could reach the doorway to cart them straight into the house OR
A small wooden ramp for the 1 or2 steps they need to access to enter the house through the garage.... and on another note stay dry and warm in the
process of loading/unloading out of the weather?

I as a neighbor wouldn't complain because they are handicapped, but maybe they weren't fully informed of other options at the time.
Maybe they need another option that's practical and looks a little better for the home itself, But I see it as ugly myself but the neighbors are assholes to stir shit up like that.

When I lived in the city, a guy painted his house many shades of blue
( like dark blue doors with light blue hues to purpleish hues on trims) I bet there were 1000 shades of blue... Neighbors took it to court for him to change it ( its a conservation area too ) the guy won and court said nothing they can do about what color he choose to paint the house... Now heres the ticker...
The guy was so pissed at his neighbors for money he spent and loss to fight this in court, he repainted his house immediately!!!!! To every shade of ungodly ugly yellows he could find ! lmao It still stands in this colors today after 30 years!
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looks like the contractor was just following ADA standard as a guide for wheelchair ramp although it doesn't apply to homes.

1:12 or 2:12 ratio for slope.
 
sonocativo said:
Im basing my theory off the photo provided in the article.
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To me, that picture looks like an either very small 2-car garage or even just a one-car garage.

I wish there were more pictures and angles, including a view of the neighborhood.
 
Jiro said:
looks like the contractor was just following ADA standard as a guide for wheelchair ramp although it doesn't apply to homes.

1:12 or 2:12 ratio for slope.
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Yes, that slope is very important for safety.
 
shel90 said:
There is a house a block away that looks like a house of horrors. The chimney looks like it is slowly peeling off from the house. It is in such bad shape and the people don't take care of their yard. Weeds as tall as the house, junk in the front and backyard, and broken windows. Crazy!
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:cold: Yeah I can picture in my head what you just described.
 
I personally hope that this complaining neighbor lose her case and chalk up the losses.
 
I think the complainer neighbor is too dumb to pay for attorney fees, and legal fees because, perhaps if she STFU and offer assistance with decoration around the ramp like add cobblestone on sides. Problem solved though good Samaritan.

You see, here in America, who wins the most? These attorneys!
 
sequoias said:
If you are physically disabled, you might have a different point of view.
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$50 a year... that's do-able for anybody.
Sealing is completely different from refinishing or painting.

And even with concrete... it needs to be sealed every 1 to 3 years.... but people think concrete is invincible that's why so many have degraded to junk...failure to seal, either way they both needs sealed... my different point of view...Laziness !
 
sonocativo said:
$50 a year... that's do-able for anybody.
Sealing is completely different from refinishing or painting.

And even with concrete... it needs to be sealed every 1 to 3 years.... but people think concrete is invincible that's why so many have degraded to junk...failure to seal, either way they both needs sealed... my different point of view...Laziness !
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yea I would go with wood as you suggested.

concrete - once it's cracked.... it's pain pain pain pain in the ass to replace it unless you wanna go down to an ugly route - sealing it with a tar or something.

wood? no problem. just remove a board and replace it. simple. and a big plus factor? it will makes your house looks beautiful :)
 
TCS is visiting his mom this week. When he got to her house, within minutes she asked, "Are you going to sand and paint my porch and ramp?" He said no this time but he agreed to wash all her windows and do other errands and repairs.

If the person using the ramp is disabled then someone else has to do the maintenance.

Believe me, a wooden ramp is no more beautiful than a concrete ramp just because it's a different material. It all depends on the design, materials, and maintenance.

Another alternative to wood is Trex. It's more costly but less maintenance involved.

I think the concrete ramp will look better once the landscape fills in, or they add some architectural details to bring down the scale and mass of the ramp.

Personally, I've seen new houses without ramps that aren't jewels to look at either, and once you park six cars out front, well....
 
I actually like having CCR's in our neighborhood. Keeps everything looking good and property values high. I have lived in neighborhoods without them and was shocked at what some people try to get away with. No fun living next to a house that have cars parked on the lawn, RV's and boats blocking the street.
 
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Frisky Feline said:
I see. i wonder if the concrete ramp is much cheaper than wooden ramp>> wooden ramp often to replace from raining or walking to damage on it. concrete stays longer. :dunno: i just wonder.
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I was thinking that too, a wooden ramp does not last forever and the concrete ramp could had fix the people budget better. They could plant some bushes in front of the ramp so you can't see it as much. Maybe the neighbors could help the people do something instead of going after them.
 
Is it possible to install elevator in the house?
 
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