Neighbors want the family's handicap ramp removed.

Foxrac said:
1st floor to 2nd floor - downstair and upstair.
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I know but where? Do you mean at the front door or in the garage? I don't understand if you mean instead of the ramp?
 
Reba said:
I know but where? Do you mean at the front door or in the garage? I don't understand if you mean instead of the ramp?
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My question is apart from ramp and I'm just ask about how haul the wheelchair from first floor to second floor.

The flat house (all first story) is great idea but it take a lot of land space.
 
Foxrac said:
My question is apart from ramp and I'm just ask about how haul the wheelchair from first floor to second floor.

The flat house (all first story) is great idea but it take a lot of land space.
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OK. I played the video a couple times, and looked more closely at the pictures of the house.

First of all, I'm not sure that it's a two-story house.

Secondly, they said that the daughter needs a ramp because when she has a spastic reaction she loses control of her motor movements.

In the brief view of the neighborhood, I could see that it's far from being completely developed. Nobody's landscape looks good yet. The neighbor across the street has a much larger house.

I don't think an elevator would be useful in that size house.
 
Good lord not to mention the freaking cost of an elevator versus a ramp! and the maintenance!!! They break CONSTANTLY! I know at the hospital we have the elevator people out ALL the time working on those things, and they're NOT cheap to call out! They can deal with the ramp, they can't discriminate, and need to get over themselves. End of story.
 
Yeah, hospitals and hotels elevators are constantly on the move all the time which is why it wears out the moving parts faster. I can imagine maintaining those elevators with the cost going through the roof.

Phoenix23 said:
Good lord not to mention the freaking cost of an elevator versus a ramp! and the maintenance!!! They break CONSTANTLY! I know at the hospital we have the elevator people out ALL the time working on those things, and they're NOT cheap to call out! They can deal with the ramp, they can't discriminate, and need to get over themselves. End of story.
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Slightly OT

I have long thought that what one church in my town did is very thoughtful. The elevator is outside and glass enclosed for the above ground part. You can enter directly from the parking lot and then go down to their fellowship hall that is in the basement or up to the main floor. To get to the main floor otherwise you have to climb a longish set of stairs either outside or inside. The elevator fits the configuration of their building and parking lot much better than a ramp would and makes it easy to get to events on either floor.

The church where I am a member is a couple blocks away but is built entirely differently. Our main entrance is not near as high off the ground so we have a ramp to the main doors. Then a straight shoot down a hallway is an elevator that serves the main floor and fellowship hall that is in the basement (a very deep basement by the way as it takes 20 steps to get down there). One of our guys came up with a very clever an idea of how to deal with some of the mechanical equipment that sticks through to the second floor. They built a frame around it at normal table height and the put a Formica top on it in such a way that chairs can be pulled up to it to use it as a table.
 
sequoias said:
I have seen pink houses.

I have seen a purple and green house.

I have seen a oddly colored houses.

What else I haven't seen?
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i LIVED in a Pink house when i was a kid, it wasnt a big deal,,,well smoky pink, it wasnt that offensive, no body cared...
 
Reba, the pics with the wood ramps looks great then they show the ugly concrete ramp...lol

I was thinking, all the homeowner needs to do is build a retaining block wall, multi tiered with planting areas to hide the concrete ramp.... problem solved.
 

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Reba said:
Downtown Charleston we have historic Rainbow Row where each house is a different pastel color.

rainbow row charleston sc - Google Search
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That reminds me. I know Charleston is known for their historic houses and are on the National Register of Historic Places but suppose an owner of an historic house suffered an accident or condition causing him or her to depend on wheelchair to get around, and need to build an access ramp would the city approve it?
 
Now, I am wondering if that kind of complaint is legitimate evidence as housing discriminating by neighbor? Don't we have equal housing opportunities here in USA? I think that the homeowner with CP child could easily sue that neighbor. Evidence is everywhere.

Its a thought that could send message to all complainers STFU or move out.
 
sonocativo said:
Reba, the pics with the wood ramps looks great then they show the ugly concrete ramp...lol

I was thinking, all the homeowner needs to do is build a retaining block wall, multi tiered with planting areas to hide the concrete ramp.... problem solved.
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It's possible that they already have plans in mind for further landscaping and hardscaping. Note that it's a new house in a new neighborhood. Everything has a "naked" look in those new subdivisions. My daughter also lives in one where all the houses are new. It takes time to develop a landscape that fills in the bareness. She's bought and planted trees, shrubs, flowers, and constructed a fence and shed. Also, there is still construction going on in the area. The complaining neighbors have really jumped the gun.

I wonder what they would do if they needed a ramp someday?
 
kokonut said:
That reminds me. I know Charleston is known for their historic houses and are on the National Register of Historic Places but suppose an owner of an historic house suffered an accident or condition causing him or her to depend on wheelchair to get around, and need to build an access ramp would the city approve it?
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Probably not at the front of the building, not just because of aesthetics but because of space. Most of the historic buildings don't have real front yards. Rainbow Row houses open onto the sidewalk. Mansions around the Battery have raised areas that open to courtyards. In those constructions an elevator would work better. There is almost no parking available. It's either on-street, dog-eat-dog, or one or two small spaces within a private court yard. If you have to visit someone in that area, expect to either park a mile away at a parking garage, or get a parking ticket.

There aren't too many residences where a handicapped adapted van would fit. When TCS has to take his work van downtown, he makes special arrangements. If it's a commercial building he goes down to the police department the day before and buys a cover for a meter. Then he has a reserved space for one day. Once he parks there, he pulls in his side mirror so it doesn't get knocked off (very common on the old narrow streets.) If it's a private residence, the homeowner saves a parking spot with his own car, then moves when TCS arrives. The homeowners either leave or park somewhere where they get a ticket (no big deal to them, they're rich). Sometimes he has to park in their alleys. He pulls in both side mirrors to drive thru. He can't open his driver's door, so he crawls out the back. Obviously, handicapped equipped vehicles won't fit.
 
diehardbiker said:
Now, I am wondering if that kind of complaint is legitimate evidence as housing discriminating by neighbor? Don't we have equal housing opportunities here in USA? I think that the homeowner with CP child could easily sue that neighbor. Evidence is everywhere.

Its a thought that could send message to all complainers STFU or move out.
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The homeowners with the ramp can't sue the neighbors just for complaining. If those neighbors file a suit they might be able to file a counter suit in order to reclaim legal costs. But there isn't an housing discrimination because the ramp owners weren't prohibited from buying their house or building their ramp. The complaining neighbor had no authority in that realm. Now, if the builder had refused selling the house to them, that would be a different situation.

There are no laws against being butt-heads with bad attitudes.
 
Grummer said:
i LIVED in a Pink house when i was a kid, it wasnt a big deal,,,well smoky pink, it wasnt that offensive, no body cared...
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A few months ago, our HOA ARB almost didn't approve our new roof. (We've been needing new shingles for several years, and finally got the money to do it.) We were upgrading the shingles and changing the color from black (much faded) to a medium tan. They had a fit about the color change. (From one neutral color to another, I mean really?) They final agreed (2-1 vote). This is ironic too, because the month before that we had been awarded Yard of the Month (for about the fifth time). :lol:

Some people can't stand the slightest deviation from the norm.
 
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