Need to solve debate with ASL teacher Help Please

posts from hell said:
Not really. ASL and English is totally separate.

The majority of problems for people who are learning ASL is in the thinking of that it is English based. So they sign ASL in an English order which basically throws out the linguistics of ASL.

In order to be able to do ASL much better - you have to learn how to put English to the side, visualize things, and just do it in sign language, not in English.

The reason I say this: I can easily teach ASL to anyone on this planet, regardless of their primary language.

People can interpret ASL to whichever their primary language is. It doesn't have to be English.
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That's almost exactly what my brother told me when I was first learning ASL. I used to think it was a signed form of English but my years at Gallaudet changed that misconception I had of ASL. Thank goodness!
 
posts from hell said:
alright ;)

I just am a strong believer that ASL doesn't need English assistance, and I am trying to convey that belief. :)

And re-reading it again.. (Damn English..) Yea, you are right as well.
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My beliefs as well. Not to kiss your ass but I have had the same arguments in my field of work too many times to count and I tell people that ASL is completely separate from English.
 
Why would you want to kiss his ass? It's foul.

Not to mention, he might take advantage... hold you down and do the glass-bottom boat.
 
souggy said:
Why would you want to kiss his ass? It's foul.

Not to mention, he might take advantage... hold you down and do the glass-bottom boat.
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Sure it is foul. :lol:
 
The best word would be "consult" a lawyer since lawyers "counsel." Not to quibble. Just a suggestion.
 
This has been very interesting! I didn't realize it at the time, but my teacher pulled that right out of our ASL course book. The book has us sign: "better" "not" "maybe" "go-ahead" "get" "lawyer" This is to translate into English as Better not. Maybe you should get a lawyer.

My teacher wanted me to sign "better" "not" "maybe" "you" "should" "get" "lawyer" It just felt to Englishy to me to sign it likethat.

I know there are always several different ways of communicating the same idea. I am still trying to figure out when you can use the head shake to mean the opposite of what you are signing. For instance if you say "I like cookies" while shaking your head no then it means the opposite, correct?
 
Carriez4k said:
This has been very interesting! I didn't realize it at the time, but my teacher pulled that right out of our ASL course book. The book has us sign: "better" "not" "maybe" "go-ahead" "get" "lawyer" This is to translate into English as Better not. Maybe you should get a lawyer.

My teacher wanted me to sign "better" "not" "maybe" "you" "should" "get" "lawyer" It just felt to Englishy to me to sign it likethat.

I know there are always several different ways of communicating the same idea. I am still trying to figure out when you can use the head shake to mean the opposite of what you are signing. For instance if you say "I like cookies" while shaking your head no then it means the opposite, correct?
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The problem with ASL books is... They're written in English.

the "no" sign in the video was more of a "cautionary" "no". then I moved over Better to the next sentence. "better to consult with a lawyer."

(A resident AllDeaf Lawyer said it's better to use the term "consult" because that is the professional term. Signed pretty much the same as "discuss" but interpreted professionally is "consult.") (Thanks Sallylou)

This could apply to all the "better not's".


And yeaaa... Not to make any trouble with your teacher... yep you're right. English-y if you signed it like the way your teacher wanted you to.

to better understand and answer your last question, i would have to know what the teacher was trying to teach.

When youre signing "dislike" you sign "like" with a "throwing away" ending (i dont know how to describe it any better but it is where your palm opens up) while shaking your head no.
 
shel90 said:
My beliefs as well. Not to kiss your ass but I have had the same arguments in my field of work too many times to count and I tell people that ASL is completely separate from English.
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Haven't we both, shel?:P
 
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