Need to solve debate with ASL teacher Help Please

souggy said:
No... what you means is:

ASL uses English as its written language.

Kinda like how other spoken languages use Chinese or Arabic as their written language.
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My point was..

ASL can use German as its written language as well as any other languages.
 
souggy said:
Um... anytime you have geographic distance, you're going to have differences in any languages.
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Agreed. If an accent is acceptable in different geographic areas for a spoken language, then it is acceptable as well for signed languages. There is no "universal" form of English. Why would one expect there to be a "universal" form of ASL?
 
ANY language of any geographic areas ALWAYS have their own accent, shaped by the society that they are in. The same is true with deaf cultures, high, middle, low classes, ghettos areas, artistic, poet, etc...
 
posts from hell said:
My point was..

ASL can use German as its written language as well as any other languages.
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You READ English, You WRITE English. There is no such a thing like ASL Word. Tell me what "Pah" is? Is it recognized as proper English?
 
jillio said:
Agreed. If an accent is acceptable in different geographic areas for a spoken language, then it is acceptable as well for signed languages. There is no "universal" form of English. Why would one expect there to be a "universal" form of ASL?
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Papua New Guinea is a good example.

The most language-diverse landmass in the world, yet it's so tiny. Why? Mountains and rivers are barriers to transportation. :lol:
 
jillio said:
Same thing can be said of spoken English. :cool2: If it isn't a problem when speaking English, it shouldn't be a problem when signing ASL.

All languages, signed or spoken, will have multiple ways to express the same concept.
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Yeah I know. Check this thread. It's frustrating in English too.
 
LinuxGold said:
You READ English, You WRITE English. There is no such a thing like ASL Word. Tell me what "Pah" is? Is it recognized as proper English?
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Pah is a form of a mouth morpheme. ;) As far as 'pah' being proper English, nope.

You pretty much validated my point, though. If I read and wrote in German, I would be able to interpret ASL into written German.
 
LinuxGold said:
You READ English, You WRITE English. There is no such a thing like ASL Word. Tell me what "Pah" is? Is it recognized as proper English?
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Please tell me why people use ASL glossing with English words then? :D

Instead of adopting.. say... SignWriting or Skokes Notation.
 
posts from hell said:
Pah is a form of a mouth morpheme. ;) As far as 'pah' being proper English, nope.

You pretty much validated my point, though. If I read and wrote in German, I would be able to interpret ASL into written German.
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English do use phonic to spell out words on paper but you don't need phonic in order to read English language, right? but I have seen people fingerspell in English.
 
souggy said:
Please tell me why people use ASL glossing with English words then? :D

Instead of adopting.. say... SignWriting or Skokes Notation.
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Glossing with English word that is AN equivalent to the SIGN language.

"Pah" means in so many point of view, specified strictly with gesture that controls its intent of meaning.

"PAH! You wait wait wait finally PAH you do that finish! WOW! Cant believe!!"
 
Lighthouse77 said:
English do use phonic to spell out words on paper but you don't need phonic in order to read English language, right? but I have seen people fingerspell in English.
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Yeah, if I put myself to it, I could have a whole lecture, discussion, etc without fingerspelling.
 
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