Native Family Attacked by Skinheads, One of Them is a Cop's Son

My family were victim of hate crime back in early 90s. After fireworks in downtown Columbus,OH, my father was driving and had a red light. 3 or 4 black teens attacked my older brother who had his window down. One landed a punch and the other teen spit on our car. He was 16,I was 13 and my younger bro was 9. They attacked a white family. My father hurried took off even tho we still had the red light. More was coming. Thank goodness I had my window up.

I know what is like to be a victim of hate crime. Im very sorry to hear about this. I wish I was there b/c I can brawl. I cant believe the dude got knocked out and arrested for not paying fines.
 
jillio said:
How the hell do you even connect the two? And I haven't seen anyone claim that Anthony is innocent. Even the court decision did not say she was innocent.:roll:

And I will speak out against hate crimes anywhere and anytime I choose. You have no say in it.
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Actually, you have been saying Casey Anthony is not guilty, which is the same as saying she is innocent.

Allow ... me ... to ... connect ... the .... dots .... for .... you .... again :roll:

Casey Anthony's father ..... cop.

Casey Anthony got away with murder.

You have proven, without any reasonable doubt whatsoever, that you are truly a hypocrite.

I have enjoyed this soo much ... have a nice night.

Skin head's father ..... cop.

Gets away with assault.
 
Steinhauer said:
Actually, you have been saying Casey Anthony is not guilty, which is the same as saying she is innocent.

Allow ... me ... to ... connect ... the .... dots .... for .... you .... again :roll:

Casey Anthony's father ..... cop.

Casey Anthony got away with murder.

Skin head's father ..... cop.

Gets away with assault.
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ssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. feel free to make a new thread about it.
 
Steinhauer said:
Actually, you have been saying Casey Anthony is not guilty, which is the same as saying she is innocent.

Allow ... me ... to ... connect ... the .... dots .... for .... you .... again :roll:

Casey Anthony's father ..... cop.

Casey Anthony got away with murder.

You have proven, without any reasonable doubt whatsoever, that you are truly a hypocrite.

I have enjoyed this soo much ... have a nice night.

Skin head's father ..... cop.

Gets away with assault.
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Casey Anthony was found not guilty by a jury of her peers.
Time to get over it and move on.
 
Steinhauer said:
Actually, you have been saying Casey Anthony is not guilty, which is the same as saying she is innocent....
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Legally, those terms don't mean the same thing.

"Not guilty" means not enough proof to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. That is a legal determination based on facts presented in court.

"Innocent" means actually did not do anything wrong. That is a moral determination based on what really happened.

Someone can be determined "not guilty" by a jury and yet not be innocent of the crime.

There are also cases of defendants being determined legally "guilty" yet they were later found to be morally "innocent" because of what really happened (usually supported by DNA results). Then, sometimes the conviction is overturned.
 
DeafTim said:
My family were victim of hate crime back in early 90s. After fireworks in downtown Columbus,OH, my father was driving and had a red light. 3 or 4 black teens attacked my older brother who had his window down. One landed a punch and the other teen spit on our car. He was 16,I was 13 and my younger bro was 9. They attacked a white family. My father hurried took off even tho we still had the red light. More was coming. Thank goodness I had my window up. ...
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Scary!
 
Steinhauer said:
Actually, you have been saying Casey Anthony is not guilty, which is the same as saying she is innocent.

Allow ... me ... to ... connect ... the .... dots .... for .... you .... again :roll:

Casey Anthony's father ..... cop.

Casey Anthony got away with murder.

You have proven, without any reasonable doubt whatsoever, that you are truly a hypocrite.

I have enjoyed this soo much ... have a nice night.

Skin head's father ..... cop.

Gets away with assault.
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Wrong. Not guilty is not the same as innocent.

Wow...you really had to work hard to find a connection there, and still after all that effort, it is too weak to even have credence.:laugh2:

I didn't say Casey Anthony was not guilty. That is not my judgement to make. It was the jury's job to make that decision according to the laws of this land. She was found not guilty in a court of law.

And you have shown yourself to be terribly confused about many, many things. Including what constitutes hypocrisy.
 
Bonta Family: Waiting for Justice, Living in Fear

FERNLEY, Nev. – It has been seven weeks since the Bonta family was traumatized by an apparent hate crime that changed their lives in all the wrong ways. Since the attack, their hardships have increased. They are without housing or transportation, and they spend their days waiting for justice and living in fear.

Johnny and Lisa Bonta said their family was targeted and attacked on Truckee Lane on May 24th by three young white men who called them “river monsters,” “******s” and other profanities after they followed the Bontas from a local gas station and accosted them on the side of the road.

“We were beaten with baseball bats, a crowbar, knives and tools,” Lisa Bonta told ICTMN . “My husband suffered a broken nose and they tried to cut his hair and slit his throat after dropping him to his knees with a bat. My son-in-law sustained a crushed elbow and broken hand fighting them off. I was hit in the lower back with the bat and suffered severe bruising and a seizure. They also threatened to rape my daughter, Ali, if they ever see her in town.”

As they await justice, the Bontas are wondering why a thorough investigation was never conducted by the Lyons County’s Sheriff’s Office, especially since They say officers who responded did not allow the Bontas to give statements about what happened. Only the accused perpetrators, Jacob Cassell, Josh Janiszewski and a male juvenile whom the Bontas called “skinheads,” were allowed to give statements to the police at the scene.

“We asked the police why they wouldn’t give us forms to make a statement and they ignored us. We tried to tell our side, but they wouldn’t take our information. They told me they would meet us at the hospital but no one ever came,” said Ali Bonta, who has not yet been interviewed by the FBI or local police despite her repeated calls to law enforcement as a victim.

A criminal investigation by the FBI has been instigated and the U.S. Department of Justice has been notified, but so far no charges have been filed against anyone according to Fernley District Attorney Brian Hayden.

The Lyon County police report confirms that the officers who responded to the scene did not take statements from the Bonta family on May 24th.

It was not until June 30th – six weeks after the attack – that Johnny and Lisa Bonta were finally able to provide their side of the story to Lyon Country Sheriff’s investigators when the family and an FBI agent met with two Lyon Country investigators at FBI headquarters in Reno. However, their statements are not yet part of the official police report.

The Sheriff’s Office did provide witness statements for all of the three other men involved, but the Bonta family insists that when they asked to give written statements, they were ignored. There are many discrepancies in the accounts between the Bontas and the police report that are being reviewed.

Meanwhile, the family is struggling to get back on their feet after their car was impounded at the scene. Shane Murray, the Bontas’ son-in-law who was driving at the time of the attack, said he had pulled off the road near the Nevada Highway Patrol substation to call police and seek help after the three men continued to follow them and tried to run them off the road.

“We tried to avoid them and the video from the gas station will show that we drove away first because we didn’t want a confrontation,” said Murray. “Their story doesn’t make sense – there’s no way I would have put my family in danger by trying to start a fight when I had two women in the car. I also want to know why police allowed Jacob Cassell to take his car but towed and impounded our car.”

According to the police statement, an underage white male passenger in Jacob Cassell’s car corroborated the Bontas’ story that they left the gas station first. However, statements to police from Cassell and Janiszewski contradict that, claiming they left the station before the Bontas. The three men claim the Bontas chased them and slammed into the side of their car, but photos indicate no substantial damage to the bumper of the Bontas’ vehicle.

Johnny Bonta said he overhead an officer calling Jim Cassell, a former Lyon County Sheriff, to “come get his boy and his car.” The elder Cassell soon arrived and towed the car away, while the Sheriff’s Office called a tow truck to haul the Bontas’ car away.

“We looked for our car for two weeks and called the Lyon County Sheriff’s Office repeatedly to find out where they had it towed,” said Lisa Bonta. “They wouldn’t tell us anything. We finally found it in a small fenced yard that doesn’t even advertise itself as a towing yard. We were told the towing and storage fees are about $700 to get it out. We don’t have the money.”

The Bontas were already struggling as a family with Lisa’s medical condition that requires her to get blood transfusions every six months to stay alive. A botched surgery several years ago resulted in Lisa’s body not being able to produce red blood cells anymore and she can only survive with ongoing blood transfusions.

“I had just had a series of blood transfusions and I am the last person who would go around attacking anybody. So their story that we somehow decided to randomly attack three white men makes no sense at all. Why would we?” she asked.

In the meantime, there has been an outpouring of support for the family. A group of people set up a bank account at US Bank in Reno, Nevada. The account number for donations to the Bonta Family is #153754887328.

There is also a Facebook page created by supporters that quickly attracted more than 5,000 fans. “Justice for Johnny Bonta and Family” can be found here.

Since the Department of Justice and the FBI are investigating, two more individuals have come forward to report that they too were attacked in Fernley with no response from the local police. Their stories have not been confirmed, and ICTMN is investigating.
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Source: Bonta Family: Waiting for Justice, Living in Fear - Indian Country Today Media Network.com

Yiz
 
Reba said:
Scary!
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You can say that again!

I witnessed the whole thing b/c I sat right behind him. It happened 21 yrs ago and still haunts my bro,today. :aw:

After we got out of there, we stopped at Taco Bell. He was only one didnt come so we got back in the car and went home. :lol:
 
jillio said:
Wrong. Not guilty is not the same as innocent.

Wow...you really had to work hard to find a connection there, and still after all that effort, it is too weak to even have credence.:laugh2:

I didn't say Casey Anthony was not guilty. That is not my judgement to make. It was the jury's job to make that decision according to the laws of this land. She was found not guilty in a court of law.

And you have shown yourself to be terribly confused about many, many things. Including what constitutes hypocrisy.
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Not at all ... Why don't you re-read your own posts where you claimed Casey Anthony was INNOCENT.

However, you are already convicting these skinheads without them ever having a trial ... weird. Based on what "evidence"?

You have painted yourself into a corner again ....

Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat
 
Steinhauer said:
Not at all ... Why don't you re-read your own posts where you claimed Casey Anthony was INNOCENT.

However, you are already convicting these skinheads without them ever having a trial ... weird. Based on what "evidence"?

You have painted yourself into a corner again ....

Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat
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do you believe these skinheads did this to Bontas family?
 
Steinhauer said:
I sure do. I also believe Casey Anthony killed her daughter.
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oh you believe these skinheads did this to the Bontas family? so you're already convicting them without a trial? based on what evidence?
 
Jiro said:
oh you believe these skinheads did this to the Bontas family? so you're already convicting them without a trial? based on what evidence?
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I sure am. So is Jillio. :giggle:

Based on what evidence? None. No evidence at all. How convenient that they were not even charged.
 
Steinhauer said:
Not at all ... Why don't you re-read your own posts where you claimed Casey Anthony was INNOCENT.

However, you are already convicting these skinheads without them ever having a trial ... weird. Based on what "evidence"?

You have painted yourself into a corner again ....

Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat
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Why don't you pull up my post that says it. I didn't make such a statement.

I haven't convicted anyone. That is your game.
 
Steinhauer said:
I sure do. I also believe Casey Anthony killed her daughter.
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One has nothing to do with the other. That is why you make so many mistakes in your thinking. You attempt to apply a totally unrelated conclusion to a different situation.
 
Steinhauer said:
I sure am. So is Jillio. :giggle:

Based on what evidence? None. No evidence at all. How convenient that they were not even charged.
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Jillio can speak for herself. She certainly doesn't need, or want, someone like you speaking for her.:cool2:
 
I am shocked to read the articles from Indian Country Today about what happened to the Bonta Family. Here we are as Native Americans being prejudiced as always by white people as looking at us as savages, river monsters and even ****** (we are not blacks) just because our skins are brown. We have been invaded and abused by white people for more than 500 years (actually thinking that we have been abused around 700 years in Canada and South America). I really never understand why they have no respect for us, Aboriginal people and Black people including the Jewish people, when they want to destroy all of us just so that they can have a pure white nation. This is power over us. That is discrimination and hate crime for doing that.

I hope the Bonta Family can fight for their rights to be human and citizens of United States as they have been here for millions of years. I think the skinheads are just jealous of them for being who they are. I don't know. I am also wondering if one of the skinhead might be learning the wrong way from his father. It is like brainwash telling the kids that they should not respect any brown or black skin people and that it is okay to beat them up. :dunno:
 
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