Native Family Attacked by Skinheads, One of Them is a Cop's Son

[saywhatkid]

Casey Anthony was found "not guilty" in a court of law, even though 67% of the American population believes she is guilty. Even the judge who ruled in the case stated he was shocked by the verdict - meaning even he believed Casey Anthony is guilty. Several of the jury members came forward and publicly stated they did not believe Casey Anthony was innocent.

Not innocent? Meaning they believed she was guilty?

There are no shades of gray in guilt or innocence ... you either did something, or you didn't.

So, with the overwhelming evidence pointing the fact that Casey Anthony is actually guilty, believed to be guilty by the majority of the American population, believed to be guilty by the judge in the case, and even several jury members believe she was "not innocent" - you still have people defending her and claiming she is innocent, and get this .... because she was not proven guilty in a court of law.

Those same people turn right around and claim these skinheads are guilty ... when there has been absolutely no trial, and no charges.

That is the contradiction - you may interpret it as me hating Casey Anthony, but it would not be a correct interpretation.

There is one difference you are overlooking here; she was tried in court, and found not guilty "beyond reasonable doubt" by a jury. That does not mean innocent; it means that the evidence presented did not convince jurors 100%. Opinions mean nothing in a courtroom. It is the votes of the jurors that matter. How they "feel" is not the same as reaching a verdict.

The skinheads have not gone to trial yet. Any comments people are making about the case are purely opinions. There is no trial yet, no jury, no attorneys presenting evidence. People are basing their opinions on articles released by the media.

I recall many Conservatives do not trust the MSM to give unbiased reports. Many Liberals do not trust FoxNews. Has that changed? Should someone be found guilty by trial through the media?

I will certainly follow this case through trial. If they are guilty, I hope they are punished to the fullest extent allowed. However, I do not make judgment on these suspects until the trial.

 

[saywhatkid]

Double post.

 

[jillio]

This is interesting. I have a family in that area. I know that "white" girl. She is full blooded indian even if she looks white. It's also a common thing that we experience. There is a lot of racism towards black people but the racism towards indian is more brutal. It's disturbing. When I lived on a reservation, there was a white cop who loved to pick on me because I'm deaf. I was hurt few times too. The American government is very corrupt.

Yeah, hate groups are gangs.

Actually, there is a distinction between those groups labeled "gangs" and those lableled "hate groups". If there wasn't a difference, we would not use two different terms to describe them.

 

[Google]

Actually, there is a distinction between those groups labeled "gangs" and those lableled "hate groups". If there wasn't a difference, we would not use two different terms to describe them.

White gangs like KKK, Neo-nazi, skinheads, etc. are territorial. They believe the world is made only for white people. That's territorial.

Street gangs believes one block belongs to them. This is the same thing.

Hate groups are gangs. Don't like it? Take it up to English.

There are four kinds of "gangs" which were predecessors of the street gangs of today. 1. Secret Societies; 2. Gangs of Outlaws in the Wild West; 3.Racist gangs like the Klu Klux Klan; and 4. "Voting Gangs" tied mainly to the Democratic Party in large cities.

1. a group or band: A gang of boys gathered around the winning pitcher.
   
2. a group of youngsters or adolescents who associate closely, often exclusively, for social reasons, especially such a group engaging in delinquent behavior.
   
3. a group of people with compatible tastes or mutual interests who gather together for social reasons: I'm throwing a party for the gang I bowl with.
   
4. a group of persons working together; squad; shift: a gang of laborers.
   
5. a group of persons associated for some criminal or other antisocial purpose: a gang of thieves.

 

[jillio]

White gangs like KKK, Neo-nazi, skinheads, etc. are territorial. They believe the world is made only for white people. That's territorial.

Street gangs believes one block belongs to them. This is the same thing.

Hate groups are gangs. Don't like it? Take it up to English.

No, you are confused. What you are calling "territorial" is, in reality, racial, not territorial. Territorial is what is found with the gangs that defend a certain geographical location as being the "turf" of that particulat gang.

Your name is Google. Use it. Better yet, open a text book. There is a distinct difference between groups identified as "hate groups" and those identified as "gangs".

 

[Google]

No, you are confused. What you are calling "territorial" is, in reality, racial, not territorial. Territorial is what is found with the gangs that defend a certain geographical location as being the "turf" of that particulat gang.

Your name is Google. Use it. Better yet, open a text book. There is a distinct difference between groups identified as "hate groups" and those identified as "gangs".

I'm sorry but which part of the world is not a territory? It is a certain geographical location.

Last time I checked, street gangs were racist as well. Anyone remember Black Panthers? Hell, even the infamous Blood, Crips, Latin Kings, etc were created to combat racism originally. They are of course territorial.

Read the dictionary before trying to define a word to verify your thoughts. Especially when you place a period after a quote.

 

[saywhatkid]

I'm sorry but which part of the world is not a territory? It is a certain geographical location.

Last time I checked, street gangs were racist as well. Anyone remember Black Panthers? Hell, even the infamous Blood, Crips, Latin Kings, etc were created to combat racism originally. They are of course territorial.

Read the dictionary before trying to define a word to verify your thoughts. Especially when you place a period after a quote.

I fail to see the connection between Gang and Hate group. A hate group does violence to cause injury, often without regard to any financial reward. A gang commits violent crimes for financial gain. Protecting turf is part of that financial gain. How often do we read about KKK selling crack? Sponsoring prostitutes? How often do we hear about the Crips publishing a magazine to espouse their views?

BTW, get off the grammar Nazi thing.

 

[Google]

I fail to see the connection between Gang and Hate group. A hate group does violence to cause injury, often without regard to any financial reward. A gang commits violent crimes for financial gain. Protecting turf is part of that financial gain. How often do we read about KKK selling crack? Sponsoring prostitutes? How often do we hear about the Crips publishing a magazine to espouse their views?

BTW, get off the grammar Nazi thing.

KKK does indeed do criminal activities like any street gangs you think of. Going by the documentary I watched few months ago, they were using prostitutes to fund their weapons, cabins, meetings, and so on. There was drug trade as well.

A group is a gang. A gang is a group. There you go, that's the connection.

 

[jillio]

I'm sorry but which part of the world is not a territory? It is a certain geographical location.

Last time I checked, street gangs were racist as well. Anyone remember Black Panthers? Hell, even the infamous Blood, Crips, Latin Kings, etc were created to combat racism originally. They are of course territorial.

Read the dictionary before trying to define a word to verify your thoughts. Especially when you place a period after a quote.

You are still very confused. Oh, well.

 

[jillio]

KKK does indeed do criminal activities like any street gangs you think of. Going by the documentary I watched few months ago, they were using prostitutes to fund their weapons, cabins, meetings, and so on. There was drug trade as well.

A group is a gang. A gang is a group. There you go, that's the connection.

Fallicious logic. Typical mistake of one who does not have understanding regarding the issue they are attempting to speak about.

 

[Google]

You are still very confused. Oh, well.

It is you that is confused. You did not bother to read what I quoted. Allow yourself to learn from these URLs.

Gang | Define Gang at Dictionary.com
The First Gangs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_regalia_and_insignia

FBI listed KKK as a gang ages ago as well. I guess FBI is confused like I am?

Educate yourself.

 

[Google]

Fallicious logic. Typical mistake of one who does not have understanding regarding the issue they are attempting to speak about.

This statement in itself is indeed a logical fallacy. Your choice of words are poor as they do not prove the fallacy of my statement. Refer to my previous post.

 

[saywhatkid]

KKK does indeed do criminal activities like any street gangs you think of. Going by the documentary I watched few months ago, they were using prostitutes to fund their weapons, cabins, meetings, and so on. There was drug trade as well.

A group is a gang. A gang is a group. There you go, that's the connection.

We could beat this thing around a bit, but I am tired. Suffice it to say that my definition of gang and hate group differs from yours. Does not make you wrong. Does not make me right.

• Skinheads want to hurt non-white for hate - racial reasons.
• Crips want to hurt everyone for financial reasons.

That is how I see it. *shrug*

 

[Google]

We could beat this thing around a bit, but I am tired. Suffice it to say that my definition of gang and hate group differs from yours. Does not make you wrong. Does not make me right.

• Skinheads want to hurt non-white for hate - racial reasons.
• Crips want to hurt everyone for financial reasons.

That is how I see it. *shrug*

It is not my definition. It is English's definition that I follow.

Refer to the URLs I posted, please.

 

[Banjo]

It is not my definition. It is English's definition that I follow.

Refer to the URLs I posted, please.

Which English?

 

[saywhatkid]

It is not my definition. It is English's definition that I follow.

Refer to the URLs I posted, please.

How wonderful; you are gonna teach us all proper English! Most people would have to pay for this.

I am streetwise; been around the block a few times. Us old farts have our terms for things, and we refuse to be "learned" by anyone. I don't run to Dictionary.com whenever I see a word. I open my head and poke around. Lots of ashes pour out, but I usually find something useful.

 

[Jiro]

Sigh...her mother is white. A half breed. I don't know what word do you call for a person who is born to full Native Indian parent and full Anglo-Saxon white parent that fits the description? Kevin Costner is white but is not white at all, but also half Native Indian just like the young woman in the picture.

"half breed" is a crude term for a child born to parents of 2 different races.

but just saying that if she were to walk into a racist "white power" neighborhood... she wouldn't be attacked. Ironic, right?

 

[Jiro]

I couldn't bear to read that skinheads threatened the parents they would rape their half Native Indian daughter. I hope these filthy skinheads get raped in the butt in prison, period.

unfortunately... they won't get raped in prison... they'll rape/shiv others because they'll have no problem joining The Brotherhoods

 

[Jiro]

I was actually talking about a contradiction that these skinheads are being labelled as "guilty" when there has been absolutely no trial and no charges pressed against them.

The contradiction should be quite clear ... but I will explain it again.

Casey Anthony was found "not guilty" in a court of law, even though 67% of the American population believes she is guilty. Even the judge who ruled in the case stated he was shocked by the verdict - meaning even he believed Casey Anthony is guilty. Several of the jury members came forward and publicly stated they did not believe Casey Anthony was innocent.

Not innocent? Meaning they believed she was guilty?

There are no shades of gray in guilt or innocence ... you either did something, or you didn't.

So, with the overwhelming evidence pointing the fact that Casey Anthony is actually guilty, believed to be guilty by the majority of the American population, believed to be guilty by the judge in the case, and even several jury members believe she was "not innocent" - you still have people defending her and claiming she is innocent, and get this .... because she was not proven guilty in a court of law.

Those same people turn right around and claim these skinheads are guilty ... when there has been absolutely no trial, and no charges.

That is the contradiction - you may interpret it as me hating Casey Anthony, but it would not be a correct interpretation.

objection! you will not explain it again. now sit down.

 

[Google]

Which English?

American-English follows English literacy and uses English-English's dictionaries. I can't think of any other "English."