I agree 100% in regards to blind, deaf and deafblind children. That they should be accepted as they are and not try to be changed. Rather, they should be taught sign language, braille, etc.
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I agree 100% in regards to blind, deaf and deafblind children. That they should be accepted as they are and not try to be changed. Rather, they should be taught sign language, braille, etc.
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Because people rather try new things rather than building on the true and tried!
Audio-tapes are the downfall of blind education. Enough said. Sorry, it seems like people rather embrace new technology over methods.
That's true.
It's better for families to show acceptance rather then hunting for cures.
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Not only it is better for the family but better for the children too. A child can pick up cues from his/her family if they dont accept his/her blindness or deafness and as a result, can have a negative emotional affect on them.
Not just kids either, although I'm sure it must be worse for kids.
My dad was saying just the other day if only I could get just a bit more of my sight back. I've been like this for over a year so I thought he would have accepted it by now.
(I'm not saying that he doesn't care but he keeps making mistakes. He thinks if I got a new guide dog the critter would take care of me. As if)
My parents are always saying the same thing too. And it slips into everything. "How's CJB doing?" "He's good...still blind though." Can't I be doing well AND blind? I guess not...
I agree with all of you although I feel the strongest in the case of children because many adults that go deaf or blind still often have a hearing/sighted identity and want to themselves try to go to the bitter end to restore their hearing or vision. If that's their decision I'm okay with it. On the other hand, parents forcing their sighted/hearing identity on their deaf/blind children is not okay, especially if the children feel perfectly happy being deaf/blind.
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I wouldn't be upset if my child was hearing. I wouldn't be upset if my child was deaf. Regardless of his or her hearing, I would do everything I can to help my child learn and to live a good life.
The ones who directed the video made us walk onto a very sensitive territory because it forced us to evaluate our values and to think in a way that most of us are uncomfortable with.
From his point of view in the video, I can see that he wanted his child to be the same as the parents, that making his son go deaf is the same justification as other parents who make their deaf child go hearing.
What is the same is that the (deaf/hearing) parents are making their child have the same hearing ability as them. The one difference I see in this is that a deaf child would gain hearing with HAs or CIs whereas for a hearing child, he/she would lose hearing with surgery. It is by no means related to the quality of life one would live since it is the parent's responsibility to lead their children as they have given birth to them.
I believe that every child deserves the opportunity to have a good life regardless of their condition.
The ones who directed the video made us walk onto a very sensitive territory because it forced us to evaluate our values and to think in a way that most of us are uncomfortable with.
From his point of view in the video, I can see that he wanted his child to be the same as the parents, that making his son go deaf is the same justification as other parents who make their deaf child go hearing.
What is the same is that the (deaf/hearing) parents are making their child have the same hearing ability as them. The one difference I see in this is that a deaf child would gain hearing with HAs or CIs whereas for a hearing child, he/she would lose hearing with surgery. It is by no means related to the quality of life one would live since it is the parent's responsibility to lead their children as they have given birth to them.
I believe that every child deserves the opportunity to have a good life regardless of their condition.
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That is so strange story.
But, in a sense, it sounds like that you want to insult hearing people to demand their deaf children to get the cochlear implants so that their children will involve in the hearing world in order to ignore the deaf world. Unfortunately, that's probably true. Some hearing parents, who have a deaf child, never look up to learn about a deaf culture and its history. The parents are supposed to tell them to support both sides of the hearing and deaf worlds because the kids will have to unplug the caps (hearing aids) before going to bed or take a shower which means that they are deaf.
My male nurse is hearing, and he told me that he has two little deaf daughters, and he supports a deaf culture 100 percent. He bought a new house and redesigned many wires for their needs like strobe lights for doorbells and smoke alarms. He also installed some indoor doorbells instead of knocking their bedroom doors. What a great father! He is very involved with the deaf activities and club. He has no interested to join a hearing club at all. It is probably very rare for a hearing father like that. I asked him whether it was a joke, and he was serious about it. Wow! Anyway, I have not seen him for three years because he is working now as a LifeStar helicopter for a hospital.
I am aware that some patients who received their implants have a brain cancer, and some doctors covered up their story when a new patient has some questions for the surgery. Not good...
Hey, your dog is barking so loudly all the times. You gotta put the cochlears in your dog's ears now!
But, in a sense, it sounds like that you want to insult hearing people to demand their deaf children to get the cochlear implants so that their children will involve in the hearing world in order to ignore the deaf world. Unfortunately, that's probably true. Some hearing parents, who have a deaf child, never look up to learn about a deaf culture and its history. The parents are supposed to tell them to support both sides of the hearing and deaf worlds because the kids will have to unplug the caps (hearing aids) before going to bed or take a shower which means that they are deaf.
My male nurse is hearing, and he told me that he has two little deaf daughters, and he supports a deaf culture 100 percent. He bought a new house and redesigned many wires for their needs like strobe lights for doorbells and smoke alarms. He also installed some indoor doorbells instead of knocking their bedroom doors. What a great father! He is very involved with the deaf activities and club. He has no interested to join a hearing club at all. It is probably very rare for a hearing father like that. I asked him whether it was a joke, and he was serious about it. Wow! Anyway, I have not seen him for three years because he is working now as a LifeStar helicopter for a hospital.
I am aware that some patients who received their implants have a brain cancer, and some doctors covered up their story when a new patient has some questions for the surgery. Not good...
Hey, your dog is barking so loudly all the times. You gotta put the cochlears in your dog's ears now!
I agree.
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I wud not be upset if my kids was hearing either but the vlog sure made me fall for it.. I thought it was real and I was huh confused I think he sure got me cuz it's a april's fool vlog.. but at least he got people realizing it's better that kids decide what they want to do with their life than forcing them to get CI or not.. :roll:
but at least he got people realizing it's better that kids decide what they want to do with their life than forcing them to get CI or not.. :roll:
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Shel, thanks for sharing your perspective. I agree that parents should focus on meeting a child's emotional needs and building a child's self esteem. It's wrong for a parent to neglect a child's needs in an effort to make the child "acceptable." The issue goes to the heart of a healthy parent/child relationship. That's why you feel so passionately about it (rightly so!). Unfortunately, many parents don't understand this. Many people are recreating a less than healthy relationship pattern like the one that they had with their own parents. *sigh*
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A deaf friend of mine.... he's married to a deaf women and they both had a child together... they told me and my friends that they hope that the child is deaf, so it would be just like them. Well the child was born and it turned out that the child is hearing... the parents were so upset... they were beyond upset that their son is hearing, not deaf. I was just blown away when they told me that they're upset, that they wish that their son is deaf, not hearing. Even my deaf friends were blown away as well at our friend's reaction.
I have asked them why they are upset about their son being hearing, they told me that now they can't communicate with their son, that they won't be able to understand him and he won't understand his parents, and also that he won't understand the deaf culture. I told him that they can teach him the main language, which is ASL, and he can always communicate with you as it'll be his first language considering that he and his wife are deaf and that's their language. Also that they can teach their son about deaf culture, to be part of it because his parents are deaf and so on. Another thing is that they should be grateful that their son is hearing... because that means their son won't have to go through hardships that we deaf people have to deal with. But unfortunately, they don't see it that way.
Look at me, I'm deaf and my son is hearing... while I wouldn't mind if I had a deaf child... but I must be honest, I was relieved when I learned that my son is hearing, because it means that he won't have to go through hardships like I did. I don't want him to have to struggle the hardships that we deaf people have to go though. However, my son is learning my language, the ASL as I use it often in front of him when I have deaf friends over, and I want him to learn that this is his mom's culture, and that he'll always be part of it. I also want him to be involve with Deaf culture because it's one of his parent's culture and it'll be part of who he is. While he's still hearing... he'll also be part of deaf culture because his mom (me) is deaf, godmother is deaf, my friends whom he know most of his life and will are deaf.
I have asked them why they are upset about their son being hearing, they told me that now they can't communicate with their son, that they won't be able to understand him and he won't understand his parents, and also that he won't understand the deaf culture. I told him that they can teach him the main language, which is ASL, and he can always communicate with you as it'll be his first language considering that he and his wife are deaf and that's their language. Also that they can teach their son about deaf culture, to be part of it because his parents are deaf and so on. Another thing is that they should be grateful that their son is hearing... because that means their son won't have to go through hardships that we deaf people have to deal with. But unfortunately, they don't see it that way.
Look at me, I'm deaf and my son is hearing... while I wouldn't mind if I had a deaf child... but I must be honest, I was relieved when I learned that my son is hearing, because it means that he won't have to go through hardships like I did. I don't want him to have to struggle the hardships that we deaf people have to go though. However, my son is learning my language, the ASL as I use it often in front of him when I have deaf friends over, and I want him to learn that this is his mom's culture, and that he'll always be part of it. I also want him to be involve with Deaf culture because it's one of his parent's culture and it'll be part of who he is. While he's still hearing... he'll also be part of deaf culture because his mom (me) is deaf, godmother is deaf, my friends whom he know most of his life and will are deaf.
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I completed all posts in one for an advanced transcription. So, go check it out to see #10 post! 
Okay, I need take a break! PHEW!!!
Okay, I need take a break! PHEW!!!
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I completed all posts in one for an advanced transcription. So, go check it out to see #10 post!
Okay, I need take a break! PHEW!!!
Great job Karissa!
All I can say is wow!
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i can recall i saw a video about such irony, but i cant recall which the title was! shit im irish lol but id try over the next couple of days if i can remember id post the info here ok its a really really good short=ish you-tube...vid-blogs or sorts (i suppose thats what the Gen-Y refers to mean Vblog !....
It IS thought provoking but I thought the argument was lame. He tried to hide behind the "wait till he's 18" argument but cochlear implants is not disabling a child nor taking away his identity as actually taking away someone's hearing is. Of course being deaf is an identity but taking away one of your senses is not the same as enabling.
It's comparing apples to oranges and I thought his argument was complete bullshit.
For argument's sake, let's say cochlear implant surgery has advanced to a state that you don't need to carry a box or anything, they simply fixed the nerves in your ear and you can hear 100%, you would deny your child this?
If you would, I don't think you should be a parent.
It's comparing apples to oranges and I thought his argument was complete bullshit.
For argument's sake, let's say cochlear implant surgery has advanced to a state that you don't need to carry a box or anything, they simply fixed the nerves in your ear and you can hear 100%, you would deny your child this?
If you would, I don't think you should be a parent.
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no one says to other people who think they should not have kids in the first place. it does not matter. any parents do their best to provide the best life for kids when they are approaching new experiences of being parents. Being a parent is not a easy job but doing the best they can do is to make sure kids are happy. That is why lots of parents have different opinions against each other. Just important that if parents dont realize how impact they push kids too far then they dont mean to but realize it then adjust to make things easier on kids than not listening to kids' needs. yea that is off topic but
no one should not say that if parents dont do well then they should not be parents in the place which is silly!
no one should not say that if parents dont do well then they should not be parents in the place which is silly!
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It is apparent you see deafness as a disability while many others dont. It is all a matter of perspective. Your opinion is not everyone's opinion. Pls apply that to your own child, not on other people's children.
If hearing parents want the respect and rights to do whatever they want to their deaf children, they are right.
However, deaf parents should have the same rights too.
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chuck you made a really good point too, like the wait till he/she is 18 arguement, also carries the danger of the child's first 18 years could indeed be 'stolen' - AGAIN, like being d/Deaf in this we tend to get crap education because of the education system/teacher's misguided priorities on what we should/could/and would (they all mean different things but all are relevent OK?!) to be learning stuff that prepares an individual for the real world - the hearing 'world' even if we have 'language access' via terps, but this again is compromised by the fact we can never really know the hearing culture in order to gain thought-out access to literancy...
(oh fuk some is gonna go mental to me, this is to say I am in no way 'bashing Deaf alternative' the real point is, having a Deaf alternative does not guarantee our 'total acceptance' and/or intergration with the world. I just dont believe in the hearing/deaf segregation nothing will change my mind on that.