Torque and horsepower are waaaaaay wrong. It would be nice for those who don’t know or for “the followers” to see the actual comparable numbers. And glow plug?
One thing the masses don’t know and no one who’s in defense of 4 strokes will tell anyone ( especially the 4 stroke crowd ) is that the 4 stroke racers in mx/sx and now GP racing are bikes are to the Nth degree of their lives, literally. Meaning their life for racing purposes is very, very short. One can see evidence of this in the big 4′s smaller street bikes that use the same engine design. The engines that are used for the street bikes make about 1/2 the horsepower and torque of their racing cousins. If their engines were the same as the racers, the rider would as one magazine put it “have to rebuild his engine every other weekend if he had an mx engine”. Does anyone see where I am going with this?
My point is, we compare 4 strokes and 2 strokes and no one ever realizes that we are comparing top of the line racing 4 strokes, the kind of engine that will only last a short time, against the mellow 2 stroke. This is why the 2 stroke mx/sx bikes we have and race will last so long. If we put the mellow 4 stroke engines in the racers and then compared these mellow 4 strokes ( the engines used in the co’s street bikes ) against the mellow 2 strokes, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation or these arguments. I mean come on, let’s pit the real racers against the other real racers, their best 4 strokes against our best 2 strokes. The last MotoGP 125 2 stroke racer made ( ready for this ) almost 60 horse at the wheel. The torque was a staggering 43 ft lbs. The last 250 2 stroke GP racer made ( another shocker ) almost 120 horsepower and 84 ft lbs. of torque. Granted, the racing 2 strokes shelf life was a short one ( a little longer than the 4 strokes and so much cheaper to rebuild ) but they should be compared in these lights.
Keep these numbers in mind the next time some follower spouts off about the extra 2 horsepower and 3 ft lbs of torque that their 4 stroke makes over the much smaller 2 stroke engine.
They can enchain me but, they cannot break my will, my faith, my belief or my countenance. The 2 stroke is so much better and those who look to kill them off, know it, it is just the followers who don’t. We cannot change the followers, they are way too lost. Somehow we need to get the 4 strokes to compete fairly and the results will stand for themselves.
I know 450cc and 250cc and what your point is?
