McCain Picks Palin!!!

[jillio]

Did she specifically state that those were the only things she admired?

Did she list any others?

 

[jillio]

So, address the specific lies and slander. Calling people names doesn't prove anything other than the character of the name caller.

How about "Obama is a Marxist?"

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Since we were discussing her qualifications as a political candidate, it can safely be assumed that particular poster was referring to the topic. There are many beautiful women in America. There are many mothers in America. It has absolutely nothing to do with this political race. If you want to admire someone, admire her for her achievements. She is not responsible for the genetic material that determines how she looks. To use it as a criterion is to ignore the issues.

 

[fredfam1]

Yes I could never, run for political office due to youthful acumulations of skeletons in my closet. And this could come back to bite her, and if they prove she really did have no knowledge of the incidents, then how she handles the whole thing will reflect on her future abilities as VP. So it bares watching. However I noticed on this thread when ever some one makes mention of Obamas alleged terrorist associations they are either ridiculed, called names or at best simply dismissed.

Yes I know that but if you continue to read below:



Afterall it could come back and bite her on the a**!



Poor choice? More like bad choice! Afterall when she was giving her speech in Dayton, Ohio, I noticed that McCain was looking at her....."headlights". I thought it was ironic that he would choose a former model who bears a resemblance to his first wife whom he divorced.



We need to protect the environment because we are doing a good job in killing ourselves!



Actually I would pick T. Boone Pickens for Secretary of Energy.



Just like the game "Pac Man" who incidentally lost his popularity in the 80's. Watch out for Pinky the ghost--she would get you!

 

[Reba]

Longevity has increased significantly since Lincoln's time.

Statistical longevity has nothing to do with an individual life span. Many apparently healthy people die young. We've seen several recent examples of that in the news. Young adult men die of natural causes before their elderly parents do. It's nothing new.

JFK was assassinated, he didn't die of natural causes.

That's right. No one expected him to die young. No one knows when death will take one of our presidents.

Reagan did not have a history of 4 cancer diagnoses.

Here:

...A 1984 proctoscopic examination disclosed a small polyp in Reagan's colon. Biopsy showed it was benign. In March 1985, another polyp was found, as were trace amounts of blood in his stool. A change in Reagan's diet eliminated the blood. He underwent endoscopic removal of the polyp and colonoscopy on July 12, 1985, at Bethesda Naval Medical Center. Colonoscopy disclosed a second, more dangerous tumor -- a villous adenoma -- that could only be removed by surgery. [1e]

...Reagan preferred to have the surgery the next day -- to avoid having to repeat the colonic preparation [1f]

The operation lasted 2 hours and 53 minutes. The right-sided portion of Reagan's colon was removed -- about 2 feet of length. Exploration of other abdominal structures found no spread of the cancer. The tumor was ultimately classified as a "Duke's B," meaning it had invaded the muscle of the colon, but was confined to the bowel wall [1g] Post-operatively, one of the surgeons remarked about the then-74-year-old President: "This man has the insides of a forty year old" [8g]. Reagan left the hospital on July 20 [18].

...Reagan had CAT scans every six months after his 1985 cancer surgery. It is not clear whether one of these scans or another test discovered two polyps in Reagan's colon in 1987. The polyps, said by his physician, Dr. John E. Hutton, to be small and apparently benign, were removed during colonoscopy at the White House on July 28, 1987 [8h].

...A small basal cell carcinoma (a type of skin cancer) was removed from Reagan's nose on July 31, 1987. Later, a larger area of tissue surrounding the lesion was excised, under local anesthesia at Bethesda Naval Hospital [8h]. Comment: The date may not be exactly correct.

Another basal cell carcinoma was removed from his neck in 1995 [5].

President Ronald Reagan : Health & Medical History

 

[Hermes]

How about "Obama is a Marxist?"

Whats wrong with calling somebody Marxist? Marxism is a philosopy. Its not a neccesarly a bad thing by itself.

But first thinking it as a crime, and then trying to label other people with it while they are not Marxist, and hoping that is going to give them damages, there might be something wrong with it.


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[jillio]

Yes I could never, run for political office due to youthful acumulations of skeletons in my closet. And this could come back to bite her, and if they prove she really did have no knowledge of the incidents, then how she handles the whole thing will reflect on her future abilities as VP. So it bares watching. However I noticed on this thread when ever some one makes mention of Obamas alleged terrorist associations they are either ridiculed, called names or at best simply dismissed.

Obama is not under investigation for abuse of office.

Perhaps if we had investigated Bush's terrorist ties we would not be in the mess we are in now.

 

[Reba]

How about "Obama is a Marxist?"

Is Obama an AD poster? Are his feelings hurt if I call him a Marxist?

Would you feel better if I call him a progressive socialist?

Is that the only phrase that bothers you? You don't seem to mind all the insulting and mocking names, pictures, and descriptions that are used for Republican candidates and office holders. But when I use one word, "Marxist", you can't handle that.

 

[Reba]

Did she list any others?

Why not ask her before making a judgment?

 

[jillio]

Whats wrong with calling somebody Marxist? Marxism is a philosopy. Its not a neccesarly a bad thing by itself.

But first thinking it as a crime, and then trying to label other people with it while they are not Marxist, and hoping that is going to give them damages, there might be something wrong with it.
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It is still slanderous and untrue. And are you attempting to tell us all now that you did not intend it as insulting?

 

[jillio]

Why not ask her before making a judgment?

She was given ample opportunity to explain if that was not her intent.

But the same question might be addressed to you. Did you ask for clarification before you assumed it was not what she meant?

 

[Hwy99]

Is Obama an AD poster? Are his feelings hurt if I call him a Marxist?

Would you feel better if I call him a progressive socialist?

Is that the only phrase that bothers you? You don't seem to mind all the insulting and mocking names, pictures, and descriptions that are used for Republican candidates and office holders. But when I use one word, "Marxist", you can't handle that.

Yea I just realized that.. *shake my head*...

 

[Reba]

Whats wrong with calling somebody Marxist? Marxism is a philosopy. Its not a neccesarly a bad thing by itself.

But first thinking it as a crime, and then trying to label other people with it while they are not Marxist, and hoping that is going to give them damages, there might be something wrong with it.-

Exactly. I was referring to his political bent. I didn't accuse him of any crime. I also don't expect it to do any damage to his following because they agree with his philosophy, regardless of its label. I was asked why I don't support him, and I gave my reason. I don't expect it to change anyone's vote.

 

[Hermes]

It is still slanderous and untrue. And are you attempting to tell us all now that you did not intend it as insulting?

You quoted me but you are not asking me what I intended right? Because I am not the one who said it at the first place. Maybe who said it will answer that.

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[jillio]

Is Obama an AD poster? Are his feelings hurt if I call him a Marxist?

Would you feel better if I call him a progressive socialist?

Is that the only phrase that bothers you? You don't seem to mind all the insulting and mocking names, pictures, and descriptions that are used for Republican candidates and office holders. But when I use one word, "Marxist", you can't handle that.

You asked for one example. I provided you with one example. And Obama does not have to be a member of this board for such untruths to be labeled as slander.

And, no, I would not be any more tolerant of your label of "progressive socialist", as that is untrue, as well.

 

[Reba]

She was given ample opportunity to explain if that was not her intent.

But the same question might be addressed to you. Did you ask for clarification before you assumed it was not what she meant?

I wasn't making a judgment against her.

 

[Reba]

You asked for one example. I provided you with one example. And Obama does not have to be a member of this board for such untruths to be labeled as slander.

And, no, I would not be any more tolerant of your label of "progressive socialist", as that is untrue, as well.

In order for it to be slander it has to first be proven untrue, and secondly proven that it was meant to maliciously cause harm to one's reputation.

 

[jillio]

Statistical longevity has nothing to do with an individual life span. Many apparently healthy people die young. We've seen several recent examples of that in the news. Young adult men die of natural causes before their elderly parents do. It's nothing new.

And, you cannot get around the fact that, statistically speaking, a 72 year old man is more likely to die in the nest 4 years than is a 46 year old man.
That's right. No one expected him to die young. No one knows when death will take one of our presidents.

No, one doesn't. I would not approve of an unqualified VP running mate for either candidate. Had Obama made a decision such as the one McCain has made, I would consider it to be equally as bad a decision.


Here:

President Ronald Reagan : Health & Medical History

And still, the presidents you have spoken of were not running for a 4 year office, nor had they been diagnosed with cancer 4 times. To ignore the possibilities created by those variables is to refuse to think the situation all the way through.

 

[jillio]

Exactly. I was referring to his political bent. I didn't accuse him of any crime. I also don't expect it to do any damage to his following because they agree with his philosophy, regardless of its label. I was asked why I don't support him, and I gave my reason. I don't expect it to change anyone's vote.

Whether you expect it to do damage or not is hardly the criteria for deciding whether the statement was true.

 

[jillio]

I wasn't making a judgment against her.

Nor was I. I was making a statement against her political reasoning.