marital rights question

they really know how to zone out and would be unaware
 
that's what I thought <above> based on the things Abby and Brittany have said-
 
are they the two joined at the head and smaller one pushed on trolly.It seems awful life but they say do not want be seperated
 
Steinhauer said:
Thanks for doing some digging - I just think it is interesting. It seems one would have to sacrifice their personal liberty for the other.
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Would think that they would be used to it... And already have settled how to live with eachother very well...
 
caz said:
are they the two joined at the head and smaller one pushed on trolly.It seems awful life but they say do not want be seperated
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No, Abby and Brittany are actually two heads on one body.

I'm with Jiro, wondering what the agenda of the OP is this time.
 
caz said:
are they the two joined at the head and smaller one pushed on trolly.It seems awful life but they say do not want be seperated
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abby and brittany hensel.
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I Seen them ,do they have separate sexual organs.There is concern one twin may have neck problems.
 
Just for clarification, I am not talking about Anna and Brittany. The only reason I referenced them, was just to give a more clearer example of my hypothetical question.

If my hypothetical question has made you think more about what defines individual rights, then that was what I was attempting to do. No "hidden agenda" - no "something up my sleeve". I know who the real troll is.

In the hypothetical situation of conjoined female twins that share a womb, and a child is conceived, yet one wants the baby, and the other wants to abort - who has rights? who does not have rights?
 
Steinhauer said:
Just for clarification, I am not talking about Anna and Brittany. The only reason I referenced them, was just to give a more clearer example of my hypothetical question.

If my hypothetical question has made you think more about what defines individual rights, then that was what I was attempting to do. No "hidden agenda" - no "something up my sleeve". I know who the real troll is.

In the hypothetical situation of conjoined female twins that share a womb, and a child is conceived, yet one wants the baby, and the other wants to abort - who has rights? who does not have rights?
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Society seems to be moving more in the rights of the fetus/child... seems this would also go to court... for they each have equal rights to their body... my thought is that it would end up resting on why they each want what they do....

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caz said:
I Seen them ,do they have separate sexual organs.There is concern one twin may have neck problems.
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Although I am not talking about Abby and Brittany specifically, they each have their own pair of lungs, heart, spine, livers, but from the waist down they are completely joined, which means they share the small intestine and uterus. They each control their half of the singular body, and when they walk, it requires cooperation from each of them.
 
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22181528
With two sets of lungs, two hearts, two stomachs, one liver, one large intestine and one reproductive system, they have learned from a young age to co-ordinate their body, with Abby controlling the right hand side and Brittany the left.
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They have had to learn to reach compromises on everything from what food they eat to their social life and even the clothes they wear.

"We definitely have different styles," says Abby. "Brittany's a lot more like neutrals and pearls and stuff like that and I would rather have it be more fun and bright and colourful."
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for those following the topic - the key word there is "compromise"

So i guess that goes back to one having to make a sacrifice of their personal liberty so that another can have theirs.


***again for clarification, I am not talking about Anna and Brittany - their condition was only used to illustrate a hypothetical ***
 
watching the youtube video on them, they are 2 seperate persons like you say ( 2 heads,2 hearts 2 sets of lungs, but only share 2 arms and legs) as they are joined at the torso and share same stomach. Now a real concern for them would be... If one died ( brain dead or natural causes like heart attack ) now doctors would have to scramble to save the other. The parents wont let doctors investigate them so doctors dont understand how they share a nervous system as well as blood supply ect.... so if one dies, they are playing with deaths beds unless doctors can get an understanding of how their bodies work together. Parents keep them sheilded in the small community they live it from prying eyes and everything else. But doctors say they are older and may venture out into the world in life and it wont be the same for them if they leave their shielded community of friends and family....
 
As a parent myself, I would do the same exact thing if my child was born the same way.

but I would want each of them to have their own independence and their rights protected.

How do you do that?
 
Steinhauer said:
As a parent myself, I would do the same exact thing if my child was born the same way.

but I would want each of them to have their own independence and their rights protected.

How do you do that?
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It's a rare birth defect which you don't really need to worry about.

It's just a miracle to be alive in that situation, and most of your worries are not ever going to matter or be an issue. People adapt and can realize their life will need to be different from the norm.
 
Thy know consequence when one die it would been explained.i think topic should be closed the girls are active in disability community they can also do Asl and this American forum
 
I am not worried about something like that happening to me - I am worried about someone like that not having their individual rights. How would courts interpret their rights in their situation?

Even though this is a rare condition, it does not mean that anyone born this way does not have individual rights just because it is rare.

And really, as rare as it is, it is quite common, but we do not hear about it because so many children born this way are hid away.

I have also been doing some reading up on this in medical journals, and conjoined triplets and quadruplets have occurred - exceedingly rare, but have happened. There has nothing I have encountered yet as far as individual rights, other than the Hensel twins obtaining two separate Drivers Licenses (which they had to fight for).

Something else I am curious about - I do know of people being born with 6 or 7 digits on each limb, and I wonder if they were a twin that only partially began cellular separation? In situations like that, I wonder if there are actually two people sharing everything? How could someone even determine that?
 
Steinhauer said:
I am not worried about something like that happening to me - I am worried about someone like that not having their individual rights. How would courts interpret their rights in their situation?

Even though this is a rare condition, it does not mean that anyone born this way does not have individual rights just because it is rare.

And really, as rare as it is, it is quite common, but we do not hear about it because so many children born this way are hid away.

I have also been doing some reading up on this in medical journals, and conjoined triplets and quadruplets have occurred - exceedingly rare, but have happened. There has nothing I have encountered yet as far as individual rights, other than the Hensel twins obtaining two separate Drivers Licenses (which they had to fight for).

Something else I am curious about - I do know of people being born with 6 or 7 digits on each limb, and I wonder if they were a twin that only partially began cellular separation? In situations like that, I wonder if there are actually two people sharing everything? How could someone even determine that?
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Within the links I posted earlier, there are a few cases where it had to go before a court for individual rights... Also, one that was a worry about not getting married because of Social concern and legal concern... Is it considered polygamy?

For this case since both love the same man, and if we stick to they being individuals then it would be.... But what if they consider themselves one person with two personalities?

Each set and case is as individual as they are themselves...
 
Jezie said:
Within the links I posted earlier, there are a few cases where it had to go before a court for individual rights... Also, one that was a worry about not getting married because of Social concern and legal concern... Is it considered polygamy?

For this case since both love the same man, and if we stick to they being individuals then it would be.... But what if they consider themselves one person with two personalities?

Each set and case is as individual as they are themselves...
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That is a very interesting question indeed.

It seems they do not want to get married, because the community would not accept it. Polygamy may be the reason? Although I am not sure about Indian culture, does it prohibit polygamy? There may be another reason?
 
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